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Re: Paint Damage from Bubble Wrap

Ken Vandevoort
 

No experience witht bubble wrap, but I know that shelf liner will also damage paint.  Found out the hard way.

Ken Vandevoort

Paint Damage from Bubble Wrap

Brian Termunde
 

Good day;
I seem to recall a fairly recent thread about paint damage to steam era freight cars caused by bubble wrap. I did try to do a search for "Bubblewrap", "Bubble Wrap" and "Damage" But didn't find what I was looking for.

Does anyone recall this thread (It might have been on another group, but I was sure it was here), or have any suggestions as how to remove the residue?

I received a car that I purchased on fleabay, and it had been wrapped up in bubble wrap with the bubbles facing car, now I have large blotches (especially in N Scale!) all over the car. I tried washing it in soap and water to no avail.

Thanks in advance!


Take Care,
 
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, Utah

Re: FS: Merchants Dispatch book

Scott H. Haycock
 

The book has been sold.


Scott Haycock
Modeling Tarheel country in the Land of Enchantm
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FS: Merchants Dispatch book

Scott H. Haycock
 

This book is by Roger C. Hinman, and was published by Signature Press in 2011. The book is in Excellent Condition.

I'm asking $55.00 which includes shippng via Media Mail to the continental 48 states. If you want insurance, add 3.00.

Contact me OFF LIST at shhaycockATcomcastDotnet.

Scott Haycock

Re: Magor Car Co drawings

William Hirt
 

In Edward Kaminski's book Magor Car Corporation, on page 196 there is a general arrangement drawing of the Pere Marquette cabooses.

There is a builders photo of the Erie caboose on page 85 of the same book.

Bill Hirt

On 8/16/2019 1:31 PM, lrkdbn via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi group

Does anyone know of a source for Magor Car Co. drawings? I am looking for the cabooses they built
for the Pere Marquette and Erie in 1930.These were wood cars with steel underframes, 3 unevenly spaced windows on the side, centered coupola.
Thanks for any help you can give...
Larry King <lrkdbn@...>
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Re: nice image of stock car SLSF 47864

ottokroutil
 

Love that door, almost medieval looking...
And the open end slats, very cool, no pun intended.
Otto K.

Re: Magor Car Co drawings

al.kresse <water.kresse@...>
 

There are also 14 photos of these Magor Car Company cabooses in the C&OHS Archives collection.


Al Kresse


On August 16, 2019 at 2:31 PM "lrkdbn via Groups.Io" <lrkdbn@...> wrote:

Hi group
n
Does anyone know of a source for Magor Car Co. drawings? I am looking for the cabooses they built
for the Pere Marquette and Erie in 1930.These were wood cars with steel underframes, 3 unevenly spaced windows on the side, centered coupola.
Thanks for any help you can give...
Larry King <lrkdbn@...>

Re: Magor Car Co drawings

al.kresse <water.kresse@...>
 

Larry,


There are FC diagram sheets for PM A800 series with the dimensions (in C&OHS DS books)


There are Paint and Lettering drawings, drawn to scale, with lettering dimensions (not scanned).


There might be general arrangement drawings (not scanned)


Al

On August 16, 2019 at 2:31 PM "lrkdbn via Groups.Io" <lrkdbn@...> wrote:

Hi group

Does anyone know of a source for Magor Car Co. drawings? I am looking for the cabooses they built
for the Pere Marquette and Erie in 1930.These were wood cars with steel underframes, 3 unevenly spaced windows on the side, centered coupola.
Thanks for any help you can give...
Larry King <lrkdbn@...>

Re: Magor Car Co drawings

al.kresse <water.kresse@...>
 

Did you check the C&O HS Archives? . . . on line search or written research request?  It was an AMC Mech Depart Advisory Committee purchase.  I believe I used the lettering drawing in a PPT many years ago.


Al Kresse

On August 16, 2019 at 2:31 PM "lrkdbn via Groups.Io" <lrkdbn@...> wrote:

Hi group

Does anyone know of a source for Magor Car Co. drawings? I am looking for the cabooses they built
for the Pere Marquette and Erie in 1930.These were wood cars with steel underframes, 3 unevenly spaced windows on the side, centered coupola.
Thanks for any help you can give...
Larry King <lrkdbn@...>

B&O N25B covered hoppers

Andy Carlson
 

Randy Anderson was visiting Florida and went to a local hobby store. On the store's counter was a box of Kodachromes. From what I saw these were mostly high quality Kodachromes. They were offered for $1 each, and by that time the locals had purchased all but the open hopper slides. I always wondered what the box cars could have been, for most of the slides were from about 1949. Too cool, and Richard Hendrickson comes to mind as someone who really could appreciate freight car slides of that era. I do know that hopper cars were low on his favorites list.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Friday, August 16, 2019, 11:55:28 AM PDT, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


Bob

Your earlier post (2014) said that you thought the photo showed an N-13 covered hopper.

The "Randy Anderson" photo is from some photographer - dunno who - and the slides were
duplicated by Jim Gerstley (or his fellow slide dupers) and I have copies of all of them.
There were some real gems - all color shots from the late 1940's.

Tim O'


On 8/16/2019 1:13 PM, rwitt_2000 via Groups.Io wrote:

I only have this one cropped from a larger image. Can't read the number so it may not be a N-25b. It appears to have the original brake arrangement.
Attached:
The origins for the N-25 hoppers was the N-13 that had longitudinal hoppers dumping outside the rails.

The attached photo is from Randy Anderson's collection..




Bob Witt

Attachments:

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

Re: B&O N25B covered hoppers

Edward
 

I have a B&O diagram for the N-25b class covered hoppers numbered 630104-630177 of 1936.
It shows the class having a vertical brake wheel and box, with a notation they had rack operated hopper doors.
Lightweight 43,200 lbs., load limit 125,800 lbs., 1,238 cu. ft. capacity, built by B&O at Cumberland.
The posted photo of B&O 630120 suggests this if you look carefully at the left end of the running board.

A vertical brake staff and horizontal brake wheel were on class N-24a cars, numbers 630025-630074 built in 1933.
They are also noted as being equipped with sliding hopper doors.
Lightweight 45,500lbs, capacity 100,000 lbs. at 1,716 cu. ft.

Ed Bommer



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Re: B&O N25B covered hoppers

Tim O'Connor
 

Bob

Your earlier post (2014) said that you thought the photo showed an N-13 covered hopper.

The "Randy Anderson" photo is from some photographer - dunno who - and the slides were
duplicated by Jim Gerstley (or his fellow slide dupers) and I have copies of all of them.
There were some real gems - all color shots from the late 1940's.

Tim O'


On 8/16/2019 1:13 PM, rwitt_2000 via Groups.Io wrote:
I only have this one cropped from a larger image. Can't read the number so it may not be a N-25b. It appears to have the original brake arrangement.
Attached:
The origins for the N-25 hoppers was the N-13 that had longitudinal hoppers dumping outside the rails.

The attached photo is from Randy Anderson's collection..




Bob Witt

Attachments:

_._,


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

Magor Car Co drawings

lrkdbn
 

Hi group

Does anyone know of a source for Magor Car Co. drawings? I am looking for the cabooses they built
for the Pere Marquette and Erie in 1930.These were wood cars with steel underframes, 3 unevenly spaced windows on the side, centered coupola.
Thanks for any help you can give...
Larry King <lrkdbn@...>

Re: nice image of stock car SLSF 47864

mopacfirst
 

There was one.  Sunshine 65.7/65.8 (only difference, according to the order sheet, was different decals for different eras).  I have one, that will probably be built soon.

Ron Merrick

Re: nice image of stock car SLSF 47864

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

Great looking car.  Wish someone would produce a kit.

Bill Pardie



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Date: 8/16/19 6:48 AM (GMT-10:00)
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] nice image of stock car SLSF 47864

List members,

A slightly larger image using the below link, at least on my iMac.

http://frisco.org/mainline/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Cattle-Car-47864-date-and-location-unknown.jpg

Bob Witt

Re: B&O N25B covered hoppers

rwitt_2000
 

I only have this one cropped from a larger image. Can't read the number so it may not be a N-25b. It appears to have the original brake arrangement.
Attached:
The origins for the N-25 hoppers was the N-13 that had longitudinal hoppers dumping outside the rails.

The attached photo is from Randy Anderson's collection..




Bob Witt

B&O N25B covered hoppers

D. Scott Chatfield
 

Can anyone point me to a picture of the B-end of one of these?  Kitbashing one for a friend.  And those outlets are very odd.


Scott Chatfield

Re: nice image of stock car SLSF 47864

rwitt_2000
 

List members,

A slightly larger image using the below link, at least on my iMac.

http://frisco.org/mainline/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Cattle-Car-47864-date-and-location-unknown.jpg

Bob Witt

Re: ART 12645 and 13657 Reefer Questions

mopacfirst
 

On the color of kick plates:  It depends on the era you're modeling.  In the late steam era, kick plates on wooden ART cars were usually red.  There are a few published color photos that show this.  The kick plate area on steel cars was painted black.

Ron Merrick

ART 12645 and 13657 Reefer Questions

Nelson Moyer
 

I’m finishing up two ART reefers as 12645 and 13657. The photo of 12248 in the ART book, p. 134 appears to have a long sill step extending the full width of the door and suspended from the bottom of the side sill. The step bows down at the center, and it appears to be painted black. The sill steps on the ends of the sides are outside mount type A attached to the side sill through the sheathing. Westerfield instructions state that there were no center side sill steps on cars in this series, and model photos don’t show one. I can’t find any clear photos of other cars in this series to tell whether the center sill step was present or not. Were these unusually long sill steps used on other cars, or is 12248 unique?

 

My second question is about the color of kick plates. The 12000-12999 series cars had yellow sides, including grab irons, grab ladders, and kick plates. The 13000 series cars had either mineral red or black kick plates, but there is contradictory information about which color was actually used. Does anyone know if the kick plates on 13657 would have been mineral red or black?

 

Nelson Moyer