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Re: Paint Damage from Bubble Wrap

C J Wyatt
 

Free? only if you are using them to send something via Priority Mail or Express Mail. Otherwise you may be committing a Federal offense.

Jack Wyatt

On Sunday, August 18, 2019, 01:49:33 PM EDT, Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:


Tim O'Connor wrote:
"And then there's TYVEK - lint free, pH neutral, tear resistant, water resistant,
won't mar or scratch or interact with paint. Only available in rolls from Uline
but a single roll is good for hundreds of freight car models."

There's a free supply of Tyvek at the Post Office in the form of the large Priority Mail and Express Mail envelopes.


Ben Hom


Crated Automobile

Bob Chaparro
 

Crated Automobile

Automobile probably for export. No date or other information.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/gmpullman/48256484931/in/photostream/

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Paint Damage from Bubble Wrap

Benjamin Hom
 

Tim O'Connor wrote:
"And then there's TYVEK - lint free, pH neutral, tear resistant, water resistant,
won't mar or scratch or interact with paint. Only available in rolls from Uline
but a single roll is good for hundreds of freight car models."

There's a free supply of Tyvek at the Post Office in the form of the large Priority Mail and Express Mail envelopes.


Ben Hom


Re: Paint Damage from Bubble Wrap

Tim O'Connor
 


And then there's
TYVEK - lint free, pH neutral, tear resistant, water resistant,
won't mar or scratch or interact with paint. Only available in rolls from Uline
but a single roll is good for hundreds of freight car models.

https://www.uline.com/BL_1969/Tyvek-Rolls

If you've bought any RTR models from China from Athearn or others, then you've
probably noticed that weird, soft material that protects the models in their packages.

Tim O'Connor

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On 8/17/2019 8:03 PM, Tony Thompson wrote:
Personally, I use the Hendrickson method: place model in plastic sandwich bag, wrap loosely with paper towel, about two layers or so. No abrasion and minimal mechanical damage.
Tony Thompson 


On Aug 17, 2019, at 9:46 AM, Edward <edb8391@...> wrote:

Its best to use acid free tissue paper as the first wrapper for a model, before using bubble wrap or sheet foam for cushioning.
Well worth its additional cost.
Ed Bommer


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


PRR Container Flat 473267

Lester Breuer
 

I have finished Pennsylvania Railroad Container Flat Car 473267 with a load of DD1 “merchandise” containers.  A Funaro & Camerlengo resin kit, number 8120.  If you are interested, photos and writeup of building and finishing  PRR Container Flat with DD1 containers are now on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you would like to take a look please do at the following link:

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/

Lester Breuer


Re: Paint Damage from Bubble Wrap

Denny Anspach <danspachmd@...>
 

The routine processing method that the California State Railroad Museum uses with its vast collection of toy and scale model railroad models is to wrap them first in Tyvek, a synthetic neutral paper of recognized archival quality. This replaces all other wraps, e.g. bubble, tissue, saran, etc. I personally use the high grade cut plastic sheet wraps from Reboxx (no longer available) from a dwindling inventory. They have the great advantage that I can identify directly what is inside the wrap.

I believe that all of the plastic wraps that are currently packed with about everything that arrives in this mail order economy should be considered suspect. One can safely presume that no one on the other end is or has had the least concern in this regard about single use products usually heading directly to the landfill.

Tony’s comment on Richard Hendrickson’s use of baggies or Ziplocks has validity inasmuch as at least the interiors of these food grade plastic bags are reportedly completely free of the destructive plasticizer contaminants mentioned by Dennis (as to Dennis’ report that the auto manufacturers have solved the windshield problems caused by the outgassing of the vinyl dashboard coverings, I can directly report that at least on my pretty new cars, they still have….not).

Presumably, Saran and similar food grade wraps also would lack placticizers.

Denny


Denny S. Anspach MD
Okoboji, IA


Re: Paint Damage from Bubble Wrap

Tony Thompson
 

Personally, I use the Hendrickson method: place model in plastic sandwich bag, wrap loosely with paper towel, about two layers or so. No abrasion and minimal mechanical damage.
Tony Thompson 


On Aug 17, 2019, at 9:46 AM, Edward <edb8391@...> wrote:

Its best to use acid free tissue paper as the first wrapper for a model, before using bubble wrap or sheet foam for cushioning.
Well worth its additional cost.
Ed Bommer


Re: Paint Damage from Bubble Wrap

Dennis Storzek
 

The problem is the plasticizer that keeps the bubble wrap pliable is migrating out. This is similar to the fog that used to develop in new automobile windows as the plasticizer migrated out of the vinyl dash board. The automakers solved that problem, but it's still a problem with cheap made-in-China bubble wrap, but who can tell where any of this stuff comes from these days.   

I recently unpacked a Chicom battery radio someone had given me a few years ago; same problem. 99% isopropyl alcohol, which I use at work, took it off with some wiping, but will also remove some paints and pad printing inks, so be careful. I would try a wash in warm water and dish soap, if that doesn't work, try wiping with 70% drugstore isopropyl alcohol, and if that doesn't work, the higher concentration alcohol. If it strips the paint, you've a good start on repainting.

Dennis Storzek 


Re: Paint Damage from Bubble Wrap

Edward
 

Its best to use acid free tissue paper as the first wrapper for a model, before using bubble wrap or sheet foam for cushioning.
Well worth its additional cost.
Ed Bommer


Re: Paint Damage from Bubble Wrap

Robert kirkham
 

I think the thread was on the passenger car list.  It came up once; a few weeks or months later I returned to it after finding some damaged cars.  My only strategy so far is to sit the cars in the air, and hope the bubble wrap elixir evaporates or something.  If that doesn’t work, the cars will need to be weathered or repainted to hide the checkerboard pattern dots of damage.

 

Rob Kirkham

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Termunde via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 8:06 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Paint Damage from Bubble Wrap

 

Good day;
I seem to recall a fairly recent thread about paint damage to steam era freight cars caused by bubble wrap. I did try to do a search for "Bubblewrap", "Bubble Wrap" and "Damage" But didn't find what I was looking for.

Does anyone recall this thread (It might have been on another group, but I was sure it was here), or have any suggestions as how to remove the residue?

I received a car that I purchased on fleabay, and it had been wrapped up in bubble wrap with the bubbles facing car, now I have large blotches (especially in N Scale!) all over the car. I tried washing it in soap and water to no avail.

Thanks in advance!

Take Care,

 

Brian R. Termunde

Midvale, Utah


Re: Paint Damage from Bubble Wrap

Ken Vandevoort <apo09324@...>
 

No experience witht bubble wrap, but I know that shelf liner will also damage paint.  Found out the hard way.

Ken Vandevoort


Paint Damage from Bubble Wrap

Brian Termunde
 

Good day;
I seem to recall a fairly recent thread about paint damage to steam era freight cars caused by bubble wrap. I did try to do a search for "Bubblewrap", "Bubble Wrap" and "Damage" But didn't find what I was looking for.

Does anyone recall this thread (It might have been on another group, but I was sure it was here), or have any suggestions as how to remove the residue?

I received a car that I purchased on fleabay, and it had been wrapped up in bubble wrap with the bubbles facing car, now I have large blotches (especially in N Scale!) all over the car. I tried washing it in soap and water to no avail.

Thanks in advance!


Take Care,
 
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, Utah


Re: FS: Merchants Dispatch book

Scott H. Haycock
 

The book has been sold.


Scott Haycock
Modeling Tarheel country in the Land of Enchantm
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FS: Merchants Dispatch book

Scott H. Haycock
 

This book is by Roger C. Hinman, and was published by Signature Press in 2011. The book is in Excellent Condition.

I'm asking $55.00 which includes shippng via Media Mail to the continental 48 states. If you want insurance, add 3.00.

Contact me OFF LIST at shhaycockATcomcastDotnet.

Scott Haycock


Re: Magor Car Co drawings

William Hirt
 

In Edward Kaminski's book Magor Car Corporation, on page 196 there is a general arrangement drawing of the Pere Marquette cabooses.

There is a builders photo of the Erie caboose on page 85 of the same book.

Bill Hirt

On 8/16/2019 1:31 PM, lrkdbn via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi group

Does anyone know of a source for Magor Car Co. drawings? I am looking for the cabooses they built
for the Pere Marquette and Erie in 1930.These were wood cars with steel underframes, 3 unevenly spaced windows on the side, centered coupola.
Thanks for any help you can give...
Larry King <lrkdbn@...>
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Re: nice image of stock car SLSF 47864

ottokroutil
 

Love that door, almost medieval looking...
And the open end slats, very cool, no pun intended.
Otto K.


Re: Magor Car Co drawings

al.kresse <water.kresse@...>
 

There are also 14 photos of these Magor Car Company cabooses in the C&OHS Archives collection.


Al Kresse


On August 16, 2019 at 2:31 PM "lrkdbn via Groups.Io" <lrkdbn@...> wrote:

Hi group
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Does anyone know of a source for Magor Car Co. drawings? I am looking for the cabooses they built
for the Pere Marquette and Erie in 1930.These were wood cars with steel underframes, 3 unevenly spaced windows on the side, centered coupola.
Thanks for any help you can give...
Larry King <lrkdbn@...>


Re: Magor Car Co drawings

al.kresse <water.kresse@...>
 

Larry,


There are FC diagram sheets for PM A800 series with the dimensions (in C&OHS DS books)


There are Paint and Lettering drawings, drawn to scale, with lettering dimensions (not scanned).


There might be general arrangement drawings (not scanned)


Al

On August 16, 2019 at 2:31 PM "lrkdbn via Groups.Io" <lrkdbn@...> wrote:

Hi group

Does anyone know of a source for Magor Car Co. drawings? I am looking for the cabooses they built
for the Pere Marquette and Erie in 1930.These were wood cars with steel underframes, 3 unevenly spaced windows on the side, centered coupola.
Thanks for any help you can give...
Larry King <lrkdbn@...>


Re: Magor Car Co drawings

al.kresse <water.kresse@...>
 

Did you check the C&O HS Archives? . . . on line search or written research request?  It was an AMC Mech Depart Advisory Committee purchase.  I believe I used the lettering drawing in a PPT many years ago.


Al Kresse

On August 16, 2019 at 2:31 PM "lrkdbn via Groups.Io" <lrkdbn@...> wrote:

Hi group

Does anyone know of a source for Magor Car Co. drawings? I am looking for the cabooses they built
for the Pere Marquette and Erie in 1930.These were wood cars with steel underframes, 3 unevenly spaced windows on the side, centered coupola.
Thanks for any help you can give...
Larry King <lrkdbn@...>


B&O N25B covered hoppers

Andy Carlson
 

Randy Anderson was visiting Florida and went to a local hobby store. On the store's counter was a box of Kodachromes. From what I saw these were mostly high quality Kodachromes. They were offered for $1 each, and by that time the locals had purchased all but the open hopper slides. I always wondered what the box cars could have been, for most of the slides were from about 1949. Too cool, and Richard Hendrickson comes to mind as someone who really could appreciate freight car slides of that era. I do know that hopper cars were low on his favorites list.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Friday, August 16, 2019, 11:55:28 AM PDT, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


Bob

Your earlier post (2014) said that you thought the photo showed an N-13 covered hopper.

The "Randy Anderson" photo is from some photographer - dunno who - and the slides were
duplicated by Jim Gerstley (or his fellow slide dupers) and I have copies of all of them.
There were some real gems - all color shots from the late 1940's.

Tim O'


On 8/16/2019 1:13 PM, rwitt_2000 via Groups.Io wrote:

I only have this one cropped from a larger image. Can't read the number so it may not be a N-25b. It appears to have the original brake arrangement.
Attached:
The origins for the N-25 hoppers was the N-13 that had longitudinal hoppers dumping outside the rails.

The attached photo is from Randy Anderson's collection..




Bob Witt

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