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Re: LifeLike 8000 gallon Tanks

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Technique noted, thanks.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2019 6:51 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] LifeLike 8000 gallon Tanks

 

I don't dunk.  I lay the car on newspaper and paint the paint remover on one side and the ends and let it sit then take it to the deep sink and wash it off.  It takes a few times of doing this but I use much less stripper and get better control.

I still dunk my donuts however

 

On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 8:07 PM Schuyler Larrabee via Groups.Io <schuyler.larrabee=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

I have not, Fenton.  I was really hoping to avoid having to dunk the car in anything, since I’ve generally had success with alcohol or some other solvent using Q-tips.  But evidently that’s not going to work this time.

 

Thanks for the suggestion.  And after reading Tim’s note about getting paint, but not lettering, off with the Accupaint stripper, I’m more inclined to go to Scalecoat’s paint remover.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2019 7:21 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] LifeLike 8000 gallon Tanks

 

Schuyler, have you tried Scalecoat paint remover?  I use it for removing paint and stripping cars.It will take off more than the lettering.

 

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Re: C&O Lake Michigan Ferries, was Crappy Job

John
 

The City of Midland 41 was cut down to a barge and still operates as the Pere Marquette 41. I saw it with the tug Undaunted off South Manitou island in Lake Michigan two weeks ago.

John Bopp
Farmington Hills, MI

Re: Crappy Job

James SANDIFER
 

Santa Fe had a contract with a Manure Pulverizing company to process the waste from it big Morris Feed Lot. Ultimately it became fertilizer. The same was true for dirty stock car bedding.

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis Storzek
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 9:45 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Crappy Job

 

On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 06:55 PM, Doc Bond wrote:

Why would anyone want to ship a load of manure?

Hey, for a while in the seventies or eighties the City of Chicago was shipping dried sewage treatment plant solids downstate for use as fertilizer... until it was discovered that the solids were rich in heavy metals, which were being taken up by the crops and entering our food chain. I recall the movement on the Illinois Central was known informally as the "ICBM".

Dennis Storzek

Re: C&O Lake Michigan Ferries, was Crappy Job

Don Burn
 

The SS Badger is still running just not carrying freight cars, see https://www.ssbadger.com/about/history/

Don Burn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Donald B. Valentine via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2019 8:12 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] C&O Lake Michigan Ferries, was Crappy Job

I rode one of the C&O ferries from Manitowoc to Ludington in Aug. 1978 and got the shock of my life to watch a Milw.
switcher put three 6,000 gal. GPEX milk cars then leased to Richter Vinegar on the ferry. These were the last such I

saw in revenue service. One was subsequently pulled off to be placed on a lter ferry to provide more room for the number of automobiles waiting, presumably at a more profitable rate. Sorry it's not our time frame but what ever happened to the car ferries after service was suspended? Sold for similar service elsewhere?

Cordially, Don Valentine

Re: C&O Lake Michigan Ferries, was Crappy Job

Donald B. Valentine
 

    I rode one of the C&O ferries from Manitowoc to Ludington in Aug. 1978 and got the shock of my life to watch a Milw.
switcher put three 6,000 gal. GPEX milk cars then leased to Richter Vinegar on the ferry. These were the last such I
saw in revenue service. One was subsequently pulled off to be placed on a lter ferry to provide more room for the number
of automobiles waiting, presumably at a more profitable rate. Sorry it's not our time frame but what ever happened to the
car ferries after service was suspended? Sold for similar service elsewhere?

Cordially, Don Valentine

Re: Express reefers?

Tony Thompson
 

Richard Townsend wrote:

Tony got auto-corrected. He wrote “precooled “ and it was changed to “precooked “ by big brother. 

  Right you are, Richard, and thanks. Obviously I didn't notice. Usually I watch more carefully for that stuff!!

Tony Thompson



Re: Express reefers?

Richard Townsend
 

Tony got auto-corrected. He wrote “precooled “ and it was changed to “precooked “ by big brother. 


On Sep 9, 2019, at 7:36 PM, Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) <claus@...> wrote:

Hi Dennis and List Members,
 
I don't know if the bags are salt, nor do I know what fruits or veggies used brine, but the caption information I recorded for this image is as follows:
 
"Loading strawberries into refrigerated railroad cars Ponchatoula LA"
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2019 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Express reefers?

Is that salt bags on the roofs? What fruit or veggie used brine?

Dennis Storzek

Re: Express reefers?

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Dennis and List Members,
 
I don't know if the bags are salt, nor do I know what fruits or veggies used brine, but the caption information I recorded for this image is as follows:
 
"Loading strawberries into refrigerated railroad cars Ponchatoula LA"
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2019 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Express reefers?

Is that salt bags on the roofs? What fruit or veggie used brine?

Dennis Storzek

Re: Express reefers?

Tony Thompson
 

Dennis Storzek wrote:

Is that salt bags on the roofs? What fruit or veggie used brine?

      Certainly not brine (unless the veggies were frozen), but 3 to 5 percent salt would really hasten cooling, a good idea for a warm load. Once most produce shippers had their own precooking, salt addition wasn't done very often, as loads weren't usually warm on departure any more. That was the case after about 1950.

Tony Thompson



Re: Express reefers?

Dennis Storzek
 

Is that salt bags on the roofs? What fruit or veggie used brine?

Dennis Storzek

Re: Express reefers?

Tim O'Connor
 


Yes many times during harvests of ripe fruit crops. Continued into the late 1950s.


On 9/9/2019 11:21 AM, Matthew Hurst wrote:
Well Bob.....

Where do you model , what do you model and when?  The answer to these questions would help in narrowing it down.

Matthew  

On Mon, Sep 9, 2019, 11:19 AM Bob Werre <bob@...> wrote:

I am seldom a poster here but I learn so much.  I have a question regarding express reefers that I hope is allowed on this list.  I have too many of them for the size of my layout.  Is there evidence of express trains running several at one time?  I need to justify running a short string of them as part of a harvest rush.

Bob Werre


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

Re: Bondic

John Sykes III
 

I have.  It works well, however, the glue must be visible to the UV laser LED or it won't bond.  Also you must hold the parts in alignment while you zap it, an extra hand would be helpful, but I only have two.  If you are using a strong fluorescent light (lotsa UV), it can trigger the curing process prematurely.

-- John

Fun & games -- aim their UV laser at a white LED and it will cause the phosphors to fluoresce.

Bondic

Jared Harper
 

Anyone tried the new glue Bondic advertised on You Tube?

Jared Harper
Athens, GA

Re: Express reefers?

Lloyd Keyser
 

The C&NW would run solid express reefer trains as required off the UP connection in Omaha. These trains were known to run upwards of 15 to 20 cars and pulled by the big Hudson's at passenger train speed. In general they called them cherry trains. One is shown East bound on the Linn County cut off on the south side of Cedar Rapids, IA. on page 20 of Chicago and North Western In Color Volume I. After arriving in Chicago the train was immediately broken up for the eastern roads.   Lloyd Keyser


On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 11:20 AM C J Wyatt <cjwyatt@...> wrote:
Express reefers have been known to run in freight trains, sometimes when returning empty, so my opinion is that they are fair game for STMFC. Other opinions may vary.

Jack Wyatt

On Monday, September 9, 2019, 11:19:04 AM EDT, Bob Werre <bob@...> wrote:


I am seldom a poster here but I learn so much.  I have a question regarding express reefers that I hope is allowed on this list.  I have too many of them for the size of my layout.  Is there evidence of express trains running several at one time?  I need to justify running a short string of them as part of a harvest rush.

Bob Werre

Re: Express reefers?

npin53
 
Edited

The NP ran cherry trains as a second section of the Eastbound Alaskan. A Pacific, a string of NRC express reefers, and caboose. Up to 8-9 reefers.

Re: Express reefers?

C J Wyatt
 

Express reefers have been known to run in freight trains, sometimes when returning empty, so my opinion is that they are fair game for STMFC. Other opinions may vary.

Jack Wyatt

On Monday, September 9, 2019, 11:19:04 AM EDT, Bob Werre <bob@...> wrote:


I am seldom a poster here but I learn so much.  I have a question regarding express reefers that I hope is allowed on this list.  I have too many of them for the size of my layout.  Is there evidence of express trains running several at one time?  I need to justify running a short string of them as part of a harvest rush.

Bob Werre

Re: Express reefers?

Benjamin Hom
 

Bob Werre asked:
"I have a question regarding express reefers that I hope is allowed on this list.  I have too many of them for the size of my layout.  Is there evidence of express trains running several at one time?  I need to justify running a short string of them as part of a harvest rush."

The answer is yes (examination of photos PRR mail and express trains often turn up multiple Class R50B and toher express reefers), but your question casts an extremely wide net.  We need more information about your layout concept.  Main or branch?  "Too many" express reefers for originating traffic, or do you run bridge traffic, including dedicated mail and express?  What part of the year?  Remember that express reefers were used for time-critical shipments, so items such as medicine, the first harvest of higher value produce such as berries, flowers, etc..


Ben Hom

Re: Express reefers?

Bob Miller
 

The Santa Fe would run multiple express reefers in the Fast Mail for fresh fruit, e.g. strawberries. That would have ended in the 1960’s, maybe even the late 50’s as that traffic shifted to trucks.

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matthew Hurst
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 11:21 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Express reefers?

 

Well Bob.....

 

Where do you model , what do you model and when?  The answer to these questions would help in narrowing it down.

 

Matthew  

On Mon, Sep 9, 2019, 11:19 AM Bob Werre <bob@...> wrote:

I am seldom a poster here but I learn so much.  I have a question regarding express reefers that I hope is allowed on this list.  I have too many of them for the size of my layout.  Is there evidence of express trains running several at one time?  I need to justify running a short string of them as part of a harvest rush.

Bob Werre

Re: Express reefers?

Matthew Hurst
 

Well Bob.....

Where do you model , what do you model and when?  The answer to these questions would help in narrowing it down.

Matthew  


On Mon, Sep 9, 2019, 11:19 AM Bob Werre <bob@...> wrote:

I am seldom a poster here but I learn so much.  I have a question regarding express reefers that I hope is allowed on this list.  I have too many of them for the size of my layout.  Is there evidence of express trains running several at one time?  I need to justify running a short string of them as part of a harvest rush.

Bob Werre

Express reefers?

Bob Werre
 

I am seldom a poster here but I learn so much.  I have a question regarding express reefers that I hope is allowed on this list.  I have too many of them for the size of my layout.  Is there evidence of express trains running several at one time?  I need to justify running a short string of them as part of a harvest rush.

Bob Werre