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Re: Lime Unloading IC/LTRR Gondola
Schuyler Larrabee
I note that the load in the gon pretty closely resembles the plastic load that, I think, Athearn offers. Same sort of undulating surface.
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eric Hansmann
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2019 1:22 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Lime Unloading IC/LTRR Gondola
A Lake Terminal mill gondola pressed into bulk material service. Interesting. F&C produces an HO scale resin kit for this gondola. A few lettering styles are available, including this one.
While bulk loads in a mill gon are not typical, they have occurred. I one found a photo of a 61-foot Western Maryland mill gon loaded with coal.
Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
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Re: C&O Lake Michigan Ferries, was Crappy Job
I had the great good fortune to sail on the City Of Milwaukee across Lake Michigan late in her carrier when she was the Ann Arbor spare boat - filled with freight cars & a few large trucks with my little VW tucked in behind.
She was an oil-burning steamer with reciprocating engines. I got to go below & watch the engines work. She was not in the best of shape with steam leaks & rod knocks, but she was beautiful. It was a great experience!! Tom
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Re: C&O Lake Michigan Ferries, was Crappy Job
Dennis Storzek
And I believe the Spartan is tied up in Luddington, a spare parts source for the Badger.
Dennis Storzek
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Re: Express reefers?
Steve SANDIFER
Actual consists, Santa Fe Fast Mail
J. Stephen Sandifer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Werre
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2019 10:19 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] Express reefers?
I am seldom a poster here but I learn so much. I have a question regarding express reefers that I hope is allowed on this list. I have too many of them for the size of my layout. Is there evidence of express trains running several at one time? I need to justify running a short string of them as part of a harvest rush. Bob Werre
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Re: LifeLike 8000 gallon Tanks
Schuyler Larrabee
Technique noted, thanks.
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of O Fenton Wells
I don't dunk. I lay the car on newspaper and paint the paint remover on one side and the ends and let it sit then take it to the deep sink and wash it off. It takes a few times of doing this but I use much less stripper and get better control. I still dunk my donuts however
On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 8:07 PM Schuyler Larrabee via Groups.Io <schuyler.larrabee=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
-- Fenton Wells Pinehurst NC 28374
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Re: C&O Lake Michigan Ferries, was Crappy Job
John
The City of Midland 41 was cut down to a barge and still operates as the Pere Marquette 41. I saw it with the tug Undaunted off South Manitou island in Lake Michigan two weeks ago.
John Bopp Farmington Hills, MI
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Re: Crappy Job
Steve SANDIFER
Santa Fe had a contract with a Manure Pulverizing company to process the waste from it big Morris Feed Lot. Ultimately it became fertilizer. The same was true for dirty stock car bedding.
J. Stephen Sandifer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis Storzek
On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 06:55 PM, Doc Bond wrote:
Hey, for a while in the seventies or eighties the City of Chicago was shipping dried sewage treatment plant solids downstate for use as fertilizer... until it was discovered that the solids were rich in heavy metals, which were being taken up by the crops and entering our food chain. I recall the movement on the Illinois Central was known informally as the "ICBM".
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Re: C&O Lake Michigan Ferries, was Crappy Job
Don Burn
The SS Badger is still running just not carrying freight cars, see https://www.ssbadger.com/about/history/
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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Donald B. Valentine via Groups.Io Sent: Monday, September 09, 2019 8:12 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] C&O Lake Michigan Ferries, was Crappy Job I rode one of the C&O ferries from Manitowoc to Ludington in Aug. 1978 and got the shock of my life to watch a Milw. switcher put three 6,000 gal. GPEX milk cars then leased to Richter Vinegar on the ferry. These were the last such I saw in revenue service. One was subsequently pulled off to be placed on a lter ferry to provide more room for the number of automobiles waiting, presumably at a more profitable rate. Sorry it's not our time frame but what ever happened to the car ferries after service was suspended? Sold for similar service elsewhere? Cordially, Don Valentine
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Re: C&O Lake Michigan Ferries, was Crappy Job
Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
I rode one of the C&O ferries from Manitowoc to Ludington in Aug. 1978 and got the shock of my life to watch a Milw. switcher put three 6,000 gal. GPEX milk cars then leased to Richter Vinegar on the ferry. These were the last such I saw in revenue service. One was subsequently pulled off to be placed on a lter ferry to provide more room for the number of automobiles waiting, presumably at a more profitable rate. Sorry it's not our time frame but what ever happened to the car ferries after service was suspended? Sold for similar service elsewhere? Cordially, Don Valentine
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Re: Express reefers?
Tony Thompson
Richard Townsend wrote:
Right you are, Richard, and thanks. Obviously I didn't notice. Usually I watch more carefully for that stuff!! Tony Thompson
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Re: Express reefers?
Richard Townsend
Tony got auto-corrected. He wrote “precooled “ and it was changed to “precooked “ by big brother.
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On Sep 9, 2019, at 7:36 PM, Claus Schlund \(HGM\) <claus@...> wrote:
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Re: Express reefers?
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
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Hi Dennis and List Members,
I don't know if the bags are salt, nor do I know
what fruits or veggies used brine, but the caption information I recorded for
this image is as follows:
"Loading strawberries into refrigerated railroad
cars Ponchatoula LA"
Claus Schlund
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Re: Express reefers?
Tony Thompson
Dennis Storzek wrote: Is that salt bags on the roofs? What fruit or veggie used brine? Certainly not brine (unless the veggies were frozen), but 3 to 5 percent salt would really hasten cooling, a good idea for a warm load. Once most produce shippers had their own precooking, salt addition wasn't done very often, as loads weren't usually warm on departure any more. That was the case after about 1950. Tony Thompson
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Re: Express reefers?
Dennis Storzek
Is that salt bags on the roofs? What fruit or veggie used brine?
Dennis Storzek
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Re: Express reefers?
Yes many times during harvests of ripe fruit crops. Continued into the late 1950s.
On 9/9/2019 11:21 AM, Matthew Hurst wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Bondic
I have. It works well, however, the glue must be visible to the UV laser LED or it won't bond. Also you must hold the parts in alignment while you zap it, an extra hand would be helpful, but I only have two. If you are using a strong fluorescent light (lotsa UV), it can trigger the curing process prematurely.
-- John Fun & games -- aim their UV laser at a white LED and it will cause the phosphors to fluoresce.
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Bondic
Jared Harper
Anyone tried the new glue Bondic advertised on You Tube? Jared Harper Athens, GA
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Re: Express reefers?
Lloyd Keyser
The C&NW would run solid express reefer trains as required off the UP connection in Omaha. These trains were known to run upwards of 15 to 20 cars and pulled by the big Hudson's at passenger train speed. In general they called them cherry trains. One is shown East bound on the Linn County cut off on the south side of Cedar Rapids, IA. on page 20 of Chicago and North Western In Color Volume I. After arriving in Chicago the train was immediately broken up for the eastern roads. Lloyd Keyser
On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 11:20 AM C J Wyatt <cjwyatt@...> wrote:
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Re: Express reefers?
The NP ran cherry trains as a second section of the Eastbound Alaskan. A Pacific, a string of NRC express reefers, and caboose. Up to 8-9 reefers.
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Re: Express reefers?
C J Wyatt
Express reefers have been known to run in freight trains, sometimes when returning empty, so my opinion is that they are fair game for STMFC. Other opinions may vary. Jack Wyatt
On Monday, September 9, 2019, 11:19:04 AM EDT, Bob Werre <bob@...> wrote:
I am seldom a poster here but I learn so much. I have a question regarding express reefers that I hope is allowed on this list. I have too many of them for the size of my layout. Is there evidence of express trains running several at one time? I need to justify running a short string of them as part of a harvest rush. Bob Werre
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