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Re: Question for Al Brown on Southern war emergency hopper

al_brown03
 

Hi Jim,

Thanks for the kind words! The interior planking on that car consists of styrene overlays; I *think* each overlay was a single piece of sheet, I want to say .010" thick, scored to represent the planks, and with Archer rivets added for the attachments to the side trusses. I may have construction photos at home.

AL B.

Re: Santa GFe "Buy War Bonds" lettering, was N&W Boxcar 47302 (Round Roof)

Bob Chaparro
 

A close-up look (photo by Jack Delano) at the slogan on a Santa Fe boxcar.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA

Re: Santa GFe "Buy War Bonds" lettering, was N&W Boxcar 47302 (Round Roof)

mopacfirst
 

So now a modeler's question -- how was it painted over? Did the repainted cars have a roughly rectangular irregular blob?

After the end of this list, I have seen cars with the Chief slogan with 'All Pullman' painted out, and later some S&T cars with 'and Travel' painted out.  Seems to me that it was done without masking.

Ron Merrick

All Sold-Thanks! Intermountain 33" High detail wheel set 12-packs

Andy Carlson
 

All sold-
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA






Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Some might enjoy this image of this Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car YS&T 110.
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

Re: Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
See also the image below, from the Republic Steel collecion, showing ERIE stock cars apparently used for loading pig iron.
 
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

----- Original Message -----
To: STMFC
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 9:20 PM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car

Hi List Members,
 
Some might enjoy this image of this Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car YS&T 110.
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

Re: Round roof double door boxcar

Randy Hammill
 

I have a couple of the Nickel Plate Products brass ones that I will redetail with Bowser parts. The floor casting fits nicely, and the doors are better as well.

Randy 
--

Randy Hammill
Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954
http://newbritainstation.com

Re: Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
I wish we had a little better focus on this image, but there is still a lot to be seen in this yard view. Click on image and use on-screen tools to enlarge.
 
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car

Hi List Members,
 
See also the image below, from the Republic Steel collecion, showing ERIE stock cars apparently used for loading pig iron.
 
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
----- Original Message -----
To: STMFC
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 9:20 PM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car

Hi List Members,
 
Some might enjoy this image of this Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car YS&T 110.
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

Re: Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
There is a second image showing this car, unusual underframe design...
 
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
To: STMFC
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 9:20 PM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car

Hi List Members,
 
Some might enjoy this image of this Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car YS&T 110.
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

Re: Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Claus,

I'm pretty sure this ISN'T an AC&F type 11 car. The lack of end platforms and the shape of the tank support/bolsters speak against this. There were a number of knock-off high-walkway tank car designs from other manufacturers, but AFAIK this topic has not been well researched. High walkway do not always mean AC&F.

Maybe our tank car geeks can comment further.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff

On 9/20/2019 11:46 PM, Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) wrote:
Hi List Members,
 
There is a second image showing this car, unusual underframe design...
 
 
Claus Schlund
 
----- Original Message -----
To: STMFC
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 9:20 PM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car

Hi List Members,
 
Some might enjoy this image of this Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car YS&T 110.
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

Re: Question for Al Brown on Southern war emergency hopper

al_brown03
 

No construction photos … most I can say is I *think* each overlay is a single piece, scored. 

Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car

David
 

YS&T 110 is the type of car that Pennsylvania Tank Car was building in the early-mid Teens. The car behind it appear to be an early (pre-1917) GATC tank.

David Thompson

Monon Box Cars

Armand Premo
 

Need information as to the type of doors on the 9000 9100 series Boxcars .Armand Premo

Re: Monon Box Cars

al_brown03
 

Hi Armand,

A few published photos of CIL 9000-9449: all have 6' 7-panel Superior doors. The '91, '01, and '05 MM articles are kitbashes by Mont Switzer.

CIL 9157, 9294: MRG 9-10/84 p 11
CIL 9147: Dolzall, "Monon", p 99
CIL 9179: MM 12/91 pp 58-61
CIL 9046, 9427: MM 9/01 pp 50-53
CIL 9271: MM 12/95 p41
CIL 9094: Bowden, "Modoc", p 146
CIL 9225, 9283: MM 11/05 pp 59-62.

Best,

AL B.

Re: Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car

Bruce Smith
 

David,

My first impression was that the frame was classic Standard Tank Car, not PTC. To me, the bolsters scream STC. Can you clarify as to why you think it is PTC?

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of David via Groups.Io <jaydeet2001@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 7:44 AM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io <RealSTMFC@groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car
 
YS&T 110 is the type of car that Pennsylvania Tank Car was building in
the early-mid Teens. The car behind it appear to be an early (pre-1917)
GATC tank.

David Thompson



Re: Standard Car Co.??

Dave Lawler
 

Thank you to everyone who aimed me in the right direction for Standard Car Co.
I've been in contact with Don Valentine and sent an order for some half door
conversion kits this morning.
Fenton that is a great looking GTW car.
Best regards,
Dave Lawler

Various Steel Industry Loads

Bob Chaparro
 

Various Steel Industry Loads

An undated photo from the Ohio Memory website:

https://ohiomemory.org/digital/collection/p15005coll10/id/2993/rec/13

Description: "Ladles loaded on train cars for shipment made by the William B. Pollock Company."

Also visible are loads of steel coils, beams and plates.

And my thanks to Claus Schlund for finding the Ohio Memory website.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Re: Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car

Steve and Barb Hile
 

There was some symbiotic relationship between Pennsylvania Tank Car Company and Standard Tank Car Company, with PTC being the older (1914 versus 1919).  I had some discussions after publishing the UTLX book over the identification of the Ohio Cities Gas Company, International Refinery tank cars shown on page 135.  It seems more likely that those cars (and the Youngstown Sheet and Tube car being discussed) were built by PTC before STC really got going.  STC continued to use the heavy built up underframe and tank saddle with the lowered running boards while PTC came up with a new underframe design in the 1920's.
 
GATC eventually purchased both and concentrated activity at the Sharon, PA STC plant.
 
Steve Hile



From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bruce Smith
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 10:30 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car

David,

My first impression was that the frame was classic Standard Tank Car, not PTC. To me, the bolsters scream STC. Can you clarify as to why you think it is PTC?

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of David via Groups.Io <jaydeet2001@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 7:44 AM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io <RealSTMFC@groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car
 
YS&T 110 is the type of car that Pennsylvania Tank Car was building in
the early-mid Teens. The car behind it appear to be an early (pre-1917)
GATC tank.

David Thompson



Re: Various Steel Industry Loads

Jon Miller
 

On 9/21/2019 11:12 AM, Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io wrote:
Also visible are loads of steel coils, beams and plates.

    The ends of the flats are interesting.  Don't think I have ever seen that before.  Also for scenery the old track on the left of the photo is really a neat idea.

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, 
SPROG, JMRI User
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Re: Various Steel Industry Loads

Brian Carlson
 

Cool photo but it’s mid-late 60’s at the earliest with EL hoppers, gothic P&LE and boxcar with the removed roofwalk. The load restraints  would be different in earlier times. 

Brian J. Carlson 

On Sep 21, 2019, at 2:12 PM, Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:

Various Steel Industry Loads

An undated photo from the Ohio Memory website:

https://ohiomemory.org/digital/collection/p15005coll10/id/2993/rec/13

Description: "Ladles loaded on train cars for shipment made by the William B. Pollock Company."

Also visible are loads of steel coils, beams and plates.

And my thanks to Claus Schlund for finding the Ohio Memory website.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA