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The Spring issue of The Keystone Modeler is available
Folks,
The Summer issue (#109) of The Keystone Modeler is now available on the PRRT&HS web site at: http://www.prrths.com/newprr_files/newPRRKeystoneModeler.htm
Bruce Bruce Smith, Assistant webmaster, PRRT&HS
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Re: Kitbash Fodder
Benjamin Hom
Elliot Courtney wrote: "I have two 4600 series cars (double sheath with wood door) and one 4300 series car (single sheath with wood door)." The Accurail 4600 series kits model the USRA double-sheathed boxcar. The roads with the most numerous USRA DS boxcars in 1950 were Great Northern (1413 cars) and Rock Island (1153 cars). Decals are available from Westerfield. I uploaded a summary of USRA boxcars to the Files section in 2006 - it's been moved to the groups.io site and can be found by doing a search on "USRA DS". The 4300 series kit is a 9 ft IH car with wood door and 7/8 Murphy steel ends. The fishbelly center sills in the kit can be replaced with straight center sills fabricated from strip styrene to model more prototypes. Possible prototypes or close stand-ins in service in 1950 are CN and M-K-T. This model can also serve as a stand-in for shorter cars - CNJ (8 ft 2 in IH); MEC (8 ft 6 in IH); CB&Q/C&S/FW&D, CNW (8 ft 7 in IH), though the difference in height from the prototype is definitely noticeable. Ben Hom
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Re: Kitbash Fodder
Elliot Courtney
I have two 4600 series cars (double sheath with wood door) and one 4300 series car (single sheath with wood door.
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Kitbash Fodder
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Folks;
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Greg is right, the PRR X26 rebuilds got the later "no-intermediate-rib" Hutchins roof, during the mid-thirties rebuilds. People assume that when rebuilt, they got all new equipment: roof, doors, truss reinforcements, etc., but that is not the case. They got roofs, and other replacements, where needed. Many X26 carried old wooden doors into the forties. Vary your fleet accordingly: the door variants are quite interesting, esp the spliced door variants. Go to RP Cyc for details. Elden Gatwood
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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Benjamin Hom Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 12:55 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Kitbash Fodder Greg Martin wrote: "A good look at Fenton's photo looks like the rib in the center of the flat panels is missing. This has been something that has been debated many times with Pennsy modelers on the X26. Richard and my brother did extensive research show that it appeared as the cars went into the shops for overhauls in or about 1934 the re-roof that were applied were devoid of the crimp or rib. This may have been the case with other roads." Greg's comment applies to the model's Hutchins roof, though it comes across as a bit confusing as it implies that you can model PRR Class X26 USRA SS boxcars using the Accurail kit. You can't. The model with the 7/8 Murphy end is a stand-in at best as the ends and structural members are not correct for the USRA SS cars; however, all of the Accurail SS variations can be harvested for their roofs. Ben Hom
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Re: Rusty rivets?
mel perry
nolan: went thru the entire paint brush category, no luck, what category is this item located in, there are literally hundreds of items thanks mel perry
On Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 4:48 PM Nolan Hinshaw via Groups.Io <cearnog=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: On Sep 30, 2019, at 01:49, Garth Groff <sarahsan@...> wrote:
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Re: Doors
Richard Townsend
Assuming you are referring to HO scale boxcar doors: Kadee, Tichy, Westerfield, Accurail, Southwest Scale, Intermountain, etc., etc., etc. Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
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From: Armand Premo <arm.p.prem@...> To: RealSTMFC <RealSTMFC@groups.io> Sent: Tue, Oct 1, 2019 8:22 am Subject: [RealSTMFC] Doors Looking for a source for different doors.Armand Premo
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Re: 2019 Mid-Atlantic RPM Presentations/Handouts
Michael Gross
So kind of the presenters to share their clinics. Even RPM attendees can't get to ALL the clinics on any given weekend, so the sharing is much appreciated.
-- Michael Gross Pasadena, CA
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Re: Kitbash Fodder
Benjamin Hom
Greg Martin wrote: "A good look at Fenton's photo looks like the rib in the center of the flat panels is missing. This has been something that has been debated many times with Pennsy modelers on the X26. Richard and my brother did extensive research show that it appeared as the cars went into the shops for overhauls in or about 1934 the re-roof that were applied were devoid of the crimp or rib. This may have been the case with other roads." Greg's comment applies to the model's Hutchins roof, though it comes across as a bit confusing as it implies that you can model PRR Class X26 USRA SS boxcars using the Accurail kit. You can't. The model with the 7/8 Murphy end is a stand-in at best as the ends and structural members are not correct for the USRA SS cars; however, all of the Accurail SS variations can be harvested for their roofs. Ben Hom
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Re: Kitbash Fodder
lstt100
DM&IR was an early user of 3M Scotchlite reflective lettering starting in 1955 on new diesel locomotives. Starting in summer 1959 these reflective monograms, reporting marks and numbers began to be applied to freight cars and cabooses. Application on wood sheathed equipment involved making metal plates for these items and then applying a clear coat of sealer over the Scotchlite. Some steel freight cars were equipped in the same manner, but by 1960, the application of the Scotchlite lettering was directly to the steel carbodies. Data on equipment was not Scotchlite and was stenciled directly on the carbodies.
Dan Holbrook
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Re: Kitbash Fodder
Benjamin Hom
Elliot Courtney asked: "I have a couple extra Accurail double and single sheath wood boxcars and was wondering if anyone has some good kitbashes to work with these cars. I am modeling 1949 in the Northeast." Which specific kits do you have? It'll help us give you specific ideas instead of yielding a bunch of guesses that might not apply to what you've got. Ben Hom
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Re: Kitbash Fodder
Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
Thanks, Dennis, for proving that my memory still works pretty well even if nothing else does, like finger dexterity, eyes and such! (-: My best, Don Valentine
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Re: Kitbash Fodder
Lester Breuer
Guy Wilber wrote,” .....reporting marks and car numbers are stenciled onto thin metal plates attached over the wood sheathing.”
And, I thought I had studied DMIR photos well. Learning makes for a great day! Guy Thank You for pointing that detail out. Lester Breuer
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Doors
Armand Premo
Looking for a source for different doors.Armand Premo
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Revisiting an Older Model
Andy Carlson
I have had good results making very thin slices of decals and paper with a good quality paper cutter. I usually make about 5 or more slices before I get the exact width I want. -Andy Carlson Ojai CA
On Tuesday, October 1, 2019, 6:56:44 AM PDT, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:
Ben, thanks for the tip but I’m afraid your hands might be more steady than mine
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Re: Revisiting an Older Model
Michael Gross
Very nice, and what I see of the floor and interior is lovely, as well!
-- Michael Gross Pasadena, CA
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Re: Kitbash Fodder
Dennis Storzek
Yes Don they have a truss rod reefer and boxcar from the DM&IR displayed and several of these single sheathed cars around the property. The Soo 2-8-2 was indeed the 1003, when it was still owned by the city of Superior and stored ar the waste water treatment plant.
Dennis Storzek
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Re: Kitbash Fodder
I wonder if that’s a reaction to the winters up there…
Thanks!
From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of "Guy Wilber via Groups.Io" <guycwilber@...>
BRIAN PAUL EHNI wrote:
“Just happened to download a photo of the DM&IR car today.”
If you look closely at this photo you’ll see that the reporting marks and car number are stenciled onto thin metal plate which is attached over the wood sheathing.
Guy Wilber Reno, Nevada
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Re: Revisiting an Older Model
Eric Hansmann
Thanks for sharing your inspiring work, Gene!
I see the roof has some possible paint failure. What are your weathering processes for this appearance?
Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Deimling
Recently, I have been upgrading older model. One such project is this 1/4” scale plastic model kit offered by San Juan Car Company. I added some weathering using Vallejo acrylic paints.
Gene Deimling -- Gene Deimling El Dorado Hills, CA
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Re: Revisiting an Older Model
... forgot to say I especially like the roof!
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Re: Revisiting an Older Model
Gene,
An excellent example of where less is more! - Jim B. in Burlington, Wa.
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