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Re: New Decal Availabile

Bill Welch
 

I forgot to mention that the inspiration for this model came from one of two "Rail Model Journal" reprints did where they compiled several of their freight car articles. I think Richard Hendrickson did the article. Of the now gone magazine I miss RMJ the most!

Bill Welch

Re: New Decal Availabile

O Fenton Wells
 

Nice looking car Bill.  It's fun, I think and go back and look at 'Older' models we have built.
Fenton

On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 12:10 PM Bill Welch <fgexbill@...> wrote:
Very glad to see these EJ&E decals. Notice they are not offering the set for the Green & Orange cars.

The EJ&E had very interesting steel cars. In addition to their USRA steel rebuilds, they build 10' 6" IH car with Dreadnaught ends and 8-foot doors, essentially the 1937 improved design with wider doors. Curiously they followed these with lower 10-ft IH cars with 8-foot doors and improved Dreadnaught ends, essentially the 1944 AAR car.

Here is my attempt at an EJ&E 10-ft IH boxcar w/improved Dreadnaught Ends using a C&BT kit. The roof was sawed off and I then added styrene on the inside across the door opening to add rigidity. The body lowered by six-inches by sanding on a flat plate and then the roof was re-attached. Look closely and there is a sage in the middle, Ugh. I kept going. The kit door was modified. The bracket grabs are Detail Associates which I now know are too long but the look pretty good. I think I could do a better job 20+ years latter but now I am lobbying Yarmouth to add this car to there Steel car offerings since they are doing such interest steel variations.

The decals are Walthers. The orange decals were not opaque so I wrote them and ordered two more sets and layered them on which worked pretty well. When I ordered I included a note about why I needed more and what I planned to do. The two decal sets included a note that said the sender had to do the same thing.

Bill Welch



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
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Re: New Decal Availabile

Paul Doggett
 

Bill 

That’s a really great looking model, I like your idea with the decals.

Paul Doggett.   England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 6 Oct 2019, at 17:04, Bill Welch <fgexbill@...> wrote:

Very glad to see these EJ&E decals. Notice they are not offering the set for the Green & Orange cars.

The EJ&E had very interesting steel cars. In addition to their USRA steel rebuilds, they build 10' 6" IH car with Dreadnaught ends and 8-foot doors, essentially the 1937 improved design with wider doors. Curiously they followed these with lower 10-ft IH cars with 8-foot doors and improved Dreadnaught ends, essentially the 1944 AAR car.

Here is my attempt at an EJ&E 10-ft IH boxcar w/improved Dreadnaught Ends using a C&BT kit. The roof was sawed off and I then added styrene on the inside across the door opening to add rigidity. The body lowered by six-inches by sanding on a flat plate and then the roof was re-attached. Look closely and there is a sage in the middle, Ugh. I kept going. The kit door was modified. The bracket grabs are Detail Associates which I now know are too long but the look pretty good. I think I could do a better job 20+ years latter but now I am lobbying Yarmouth to add this car to there Steel car offerings since they are doing such interest steel variations.

The decals are Walthers. The orange decals were not opaque so I wrote them and ordered two more sets and layered them on which worked pretty well. When I ordered I included a note about why I needed more and what I planned to do. The two decal sets included a note that said the sender had to do the same thing.

Bill Welch

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Re: New Decal Availabile

Bill Welch
 

Very glad to see these EJ&E decals. Notice they are not offering the set for the Green & Orange cars.

The EJ&E had very interesting steel cars. In addition to their USRA steel rebuilds, they build 10' 6" IH car with Dreadnaught ends and 8-foot doors, essentially the 1937 improved design with wider doors. Curiously they followed these with lower 10-ft IH cars with 8-foot doors and improved Dreadnaught ends, essentially the 1944 AAR car.

Here is my attempt at an EJ&E 10-ft IH boxcar w/improved Dreadnaught Ends using a C&BT kit. The roof was sawed off and I then added styrene on the inside across the door opening to add rigidity. The body lowered by six-inches by sanding on a flat plate and then the roof was re-attached. Look closely and there is a sage in the middle, Ugh. I kept going. The kit door was modified. The bracket grabs are Detail Associates which I now know are too long but the look pretty good. I think I could do a better job 20+ years latter but now I am lobbying Yarmouth to add this car to there Steel car offerings since they are doing such interest steel variations.

The decals are Walthers. The orange decals were not opaque so I wrote them and ordered two more sets and layered them on which worked pretty well. When I ordered I included a note about why I needed more and what I planned to do. The two decal sets included a note that said the sender had to do the same thing.

Bill Welch

Re: New Decal Availabile

Tim O'Connor
 

On 10/5/2019 7:10 PM, hubert mask wrote:
Mask Island Decals Inc.is pleased to announce a new decal added to our line up.

We now offer the EJ&E decal designed for the green forty footer.  This is the systems map scheme. You may view this set on maskislanddecals.com .    Look under freight and find this set in the EJ&E group.

The set does two cars and sells for $7.00.

Thank you.    Hopefully see you in Chicago.

Hubert Mask

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

New Decal Availabile

hubert mask
 

Mask Island Decals Inc.is pleased to announce a new decal added to our line up.

We now offer the EJ&E decal designed for the green forty footer. This is the systems map scheme. You may view this set on maskislanddecals.com . Look under freight and find this set in the EJ&E group.

The set does two cars and sells for $7.00.

Thank you. Hopefully see you in Chicago.

Hubert Mask

Re: NP WOOD REFER COLOR

O Fenton Wells
 

Yessir you’re correct, getting old and memory issues I’m afraid.
Thanks Gary


On Oct 5, 2019, at 5:21 PM, gary laakso <vasa0vasa@...> wrote:

The W&R cars are painted brass imports.  Norwest produced the resin kits for these reefers and like you, I have some to build.

Gary Laakso
Northwest of Mike Brock


On Oct 5, 2019, at 1:31 PM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Nice looking cars Wiliam.  What yellow and orange did you use?  Anything special.  I still have to build the NP reefer by W&R
Fenton

On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 4:24 PM WILLIAM PARDIE <PARDIEW001@...> wrote:

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I found the W&R flier with Bill McKeown’s comments on the color for NP’s wood refers.  Gary Lasko covered all of the points in his recent post.

Above are tow of W&R’s offerings of these cars.  As I have previously noted for a while my freight car roster was heavily weighted with cars from Pacific Northwest railroads.  That was due to the quality of W & R’s offerings.

Bill Pardie



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
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Re: NP WOOD REFER COLOR

gary laakso
 

The W&R cars are painted brass imports.  Norwest produced the resin kits for these reefers and like you, I have some to build.

Gary Laakso
Northwest of Mike Brock


On Oct 5, 2019, at 1:31 PM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Nice looking cars Wiliam.  What yellow and orange did you use?  Anything special.  I still have to build the NP reefer by W&R
Fenton

On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 4:24 PM WILLIAM PARDIE <PARDIEW001@...> wrote:

<DSCN2057.jpg><DSCN2050.jpg>

I found the W&R flier with Bill McKeown’s comments on the color for NP’s wood refers.  Gary Lasko covered all of the points in his recent post.

Above are tow of W&R’s offerings of these cars.  As I have previously noted for a while my freight car roster was heavily weighted with cars from Pacific Northwest railroads.  That was due to the quality of W & R’s offerings.

Bill Pardie



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...

Re: PHOTO HELP NEEDED - AGAIN

Tim O'Connor
 


the size no doubt varied over time right?


On 10/5/2019 4:03 PM, WILLIAM PARDIE wrote:


As with Gene Diemling’s recent post on revisiting older models I find that I Am spending a fair amount of time upgrading some of my earlier models.  Early on I built models following the manufacturer’s instructions.  I did not have much access to anything else. One concern that I have with the earlier Westerfield car above is with the size of the buzz saw herald.  Ed Hawkins a while back informed me that most early heralds were 30” in diameter.  the one on the car above is less than that.
I recently found the end photo  (below) of a car wioth exactly the same number.  It appears to be a builders photo.  Does anone know or have access to the side view of the builders photo?
Thanbksin advancde for any help:

Bill

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

Re: PHOTO HELP NEEDED - AGAIN

Benjamin Hom
 

Bill Pardie asked:
"As with Gene Deimling’s recent post on revisiting older models I find that I am spending a fair amount of time upgrading some of my earlier models.  Early on I built models following the manufacturer’s instructions.  I did not have much access to anything else. One concern that I have with the earlier Westerfield car above is with the size of the buzz saw herald.  Ed Hawkins a while back informed me that most early heralds were 30” in diameter.  The one on the car above is less than that."

Remind us what era you are modeling?  That helps shape the answer.

"I recently found the end photo (below) of a car with exactly the same number.  It appears to be a builders photo.  Does anyone know or have access to the side view of the builders photo?"

That won't be helpful unless you are modeling the early 1920s as the original paint and lettering scheme lacks any herald and is markedly different from 1940s and 1950s lettering.


Ben Hom

Re: NP WOOD REFER COLOR

O Fenton Wells
 

Nice looking cars Wiliam.  What yellow and orange did you use?  Anything special.  I still have to build the NP reefer by W&R
Fenton

On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 4:24 PM WILLIAM PARDIE <PARDIEW001@...> wrote:


I found the W&R flier with Bill McKeown’s comments on the color for NP’s wood refers.  Gary Lasko covered all of the points in his recent post.

Above are tow of W&R’s offerings of these cars.  As I have previously noted for a while my freight car roster was heavily weighted with cars from Pacific Northwest railroads.  That was due to the quality of W & R’s offerings.

Bill Pardie



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...

NP WOOD REFER COLOR

WILLIAM PARDIE
 



I found the W&R flier with Bill McKeown’s comments on the color for NP’s wood refers.  Gary Lasko covered all of the points in his recent post.

Above are tow of W&R’s offerings of these cars.  As I have previously noted for a while my freight car roster was heavily weighted with cars from Pacific Northwest railroads.  That was due to the quality of W & R’s offerings.

Bill Pardie

builder's photo

Norm Buckhart
 

this would be the builder’s photo of the side view.  Not sure when the buzz saw came into practice but after 1919 when these were built.  norm

PHOTO HELP NEEDED - AGAIN

Norm Buckhart
 

I think it’s correct Bill  (Norm Buckhart)


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From: "WILLIAM PARDIE" <PARDIEW001@...>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] PHOTO HELP NEEDED - AGAIN
Date: October 5, 2019 at 1:03:52 PM PDT



As with Gene Diemling’s recent post on revisiting older models I find that I Am spending a fair amount of time upgrading some of my earlier models.  Early on I built models following the manufacturer’s instructions.  I did not have much access to anything else. One concern that I have with the earlier Westerfield car above is with the size of the buzz saw herald.  Ed Hawkins a while back informed me that most early heralds were 30” in diameter.  the one on the car above is less than that.
I recently found the end photo  (below) of a car wioth exactly the same number.  It appears to be a builders photo.  Does anone know or have access to the side view of the builders photo?
Thanbksin advancde for any help:

Bill

PHOTO HELP NEEDED - AGAIN

WILLIAM PARDIE
 



As with Gene Diemling’s recent post on revisiting older models I find that I Am spending a fair amount of time upgrading some of my earlier models.  Early on I built models following the manufacturer’s instructions.  I did not have much access to anything else. One concern that I have with the earlier Westerfield car above is with the size of the buzz saw herald.  Ed Hawkins a while back informed me that most early heralds were 30” in diameter.  the one on the car above is less than that.
I recently found the end photo  (below) of a car wioth exactly the same number.  It appears to be a builders photo.  Does anone know or have access to the side view of the builders photo?
Thanbksin advancde for any help:

Bill

Re: FW: Ron Sebastian - Des Plaines Hobbies

Steve and Barb Hile
 

I can't remember the first time I visited Des Plaines Hobbies.  It was probably in the late 1980's or early 90's.  In those days, I often had a meeting in Racine, Wisconsin and on my return trip to Naperville, I could visit Iron Horse Hobbies in Kenosha and/or DPH.  I remember the smaller store at the north side of the strip mall and that Ron was excited to move to the larger store to the south.  I had to get off the Tri-State at Golf Road and wind my way through the forest preserve and downtown Des Plaines to get to the shop.

I remember Ron being an acerbic wit, but always extremely friendly and helpful once I got to know him.

My sincere condolences to Sue and the family.

Thanking Ron for his service to his country and his customers in the hobby,
Steve Hile

Re: Ron Sebastian

cptracks
 

Des Plaines Hobbies was always a must stop for me in Chicago and Ron was a big part of the reason. My condolences to the family.

Colin Riley



On Saturday, October 5, 2019, 06:58:47 a.m. PDT, dh30973 <dhussey@...> wrote:


Every year when Dick Harley and I headed to Chicago for Naperville/Chicagoland we made it a routine after picking up the car to grab a pizza and head to the shop. Visiting with Ron was always a treat. His knowledge was far reaching on darn near any subject especially all the ins and outs of the industry. On Sunday we would reverse, and hit the shop, before the pizza on our way back to the airport for more insight and a few items. 

Such a well stocked shop shop is always a treat. He kept the parts supply well stocked including my items. I just recently filled a big order direct from him. 

The meet in a couple weeks will not be the same. 
All our thoughts to Sue and the family. 

Dave Hussey
Cannon and Company

Re: Ron Sebastian

dh30973
 

Every year when Dick Harley and I headed to Chicago for Naperville/Chicagoland we made it a routine after picking up the car to grab a pizza and head to the shop. Visiting with Ron was always a treat. His knowledge was far reaching on darn near any subject especially all the ins and outs of the industry. On Sunday we would reverse, and hit the shop, before the pizza on our way back to the airport for more insight and a few items. 

Such a well stocked shop shop is always a treat. He kept the parts supply well stocked including my items. I just recently filled a big order direct from him. 

The meet in a couple weeks will not be the same. 
All our thoughts to Sue and the family. 

Dave Hussey
Cannon and Company

Re: FW: Ron Sebastian - Des Plaines Hobbies

Rich C
 

Guys, It came to me as a shock. I would see Ron once or twice a month as I live in Racine and my modular clubs are in Illinois. As Michael said " well stocked brick & mortar store" , I ditto that. I still find things that are long sold out elsewhere. Always has the decals I need.


He will always be remembered

Rich Christie

On Friday, October 4, 2019, 02:24:59 PM CDT, Charlie Vlk <cvlk@...> wrote:


Michael-

 

Is the caption “I may be an actor on TV and the movies but in real life I am a Model Railroader?”

 

You are right about the magic;  my post relating that Ron worked at All-Nations Hobby Shop in Chicago triggered several emails from ex-All Nations employees and a number of posts from Des Plaines Hobbies customers.

Somehow a package from Amazon arriving on the doorstep isn’t quite the same as dropping into your Local Hobby Shop (where, like Cheers, everybody knows your name!!) and bringing home a new treasure when all you went there for is to pick up the latest MR or a bottle of paint…..

 

Charlie Vlk

 

I have already commented on the sad loss of Des Plaines Hobby's Ron Sebastian, but today recalled a photo my cousin took of me during the Chicagoland RPM weekend a few years ago.  It was taken at Des Plaines Hobby, and illustrates the magic a well-stocked "bricks and mortar" model railroad hobby shop can still invoke for a life-long hobbiest like myself.  Ron was the magician who created that magic.  He and his like are sorely missed.
--
Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA

 

Re: Ron Sebastian

Lloyd Keyser
 

Always looked forward to visiting Ron while at Naperville. Always had a nice long talk about many things. I will miss seeing him this year. My best to family and friends. Lloyd Keyser