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Re: Suggestions For Wire Load Ties
James Brewer
Bob, I'd suggest EZ Line from Berkshire Junction...http://berkshirejunction.com/subdirectory/ Jim Brewer Glenwood MD
On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 11:56 AM Allen Montgomery via Groups.Io <sandbear75=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Suggestions For Wire Load Ties
Bob,
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Berkshire Junction EZ Line
Regards Bruce
Bruce F. Smith Auburn, AL "Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."
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Re: Suggestions For Wire Load Ties
Allen Montgomery
I would use leftover thread from a Jaeger lumber load. Or you could use Pele's electrician tape idea. Never had luck with that myself.
On Tuesday, October 15, 2019, 8:48:31 AM MST, Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:
I'm modeling several open car loads in HO scale. The prototype examples I'm following show that wire is used above the load to tie the top of the stakes that secure the load from lateral movement. Does anyone have a suggestion as to how to simulate the wires? Thanks. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Suggestions For Wire Load Ties
I'm modeling several open car loads in HO scale. The prototype examples I'm following show that wire is used above the load to tie the top of the stakes that secure the load from lateral movement. Does anyone have a suggestion as to how to simulate the wires? Thanks. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: M&StL 30000 series gondola kit under development
Bill Welch
On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 09:58 PM, Richard Remiarz wrote:
Joe Binish asked me to forward this to the list. He is having some technical issues.This is good news, great to see new people developing models. Speaking of gondolas, according the the Lisle/Chicagoland RPM, Steve Furnaro will do a presentation on building a Monon gondola, which means he must be introducing this kit next week as I have not seen it on there website. Bill Welch
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Re: Photo: Painting A Boxcar On The RIP Track
Not only that, if you zoom in on the guy doing the painting, you can see the brown paint all over his gloves, sleeves, and jacket. Doug Paasch
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Smith
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 3:56 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Painting A Boxcar On The RIP Track
Don,
I hope that you can appreciate that there are a lot of things that you have never seen that still manage to exist ;)
Thank you for the alternative explanation of sand blasting, and it has merit, but I do not think that it is correct. Here is the full sized image (clicked the link on the top right of the photo)
A careful look will show you that there is a stream of something exiting the tip of the pipe. Now, I’ll admit that it could be abrasive media, but I doubt it. The material appears to be the same color as the very, very freshly painted car side to the left of the worker, whereas to the right of the worker is a small amount of already prepped car side. In addition, there is no accumulation of any sort of abrasive material on the ground under the car.
Regards, Bruce Bruce Smith Auburn, AL
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WTB - ends for MDC Roundhouse old time boxcar
Craig Bisgeier
Morning folks,
Recently learned I have a Roundhouse / MDC "Old Timer" boxcar kit without the car ends. This would be one of the newer kits with the separately applied end parts. I'd like to complete the kit, so does anyone have a spare A end, or both ends they'd be willing to part with? Color not important (unless its brown which would be a plus) since I'll probably repaint. Id even consider a complete donor car if thats what you have. Not looking tobpay a lot for it, just hoping someone has a spare part to share.
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Re: M&StL 30000 series gondola kit under development
Doug Harding wrote:
One unique feature was the use of a Superior hand brake. The hand brake of choice for the M&StL Dan Smith
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Re: M&StL 30000 series gondola kit under development
Look forward to seeing this. The MSTL purchased 250 of these gons in 1947. They were a 41’ car with an inward slope at the bottom of the sides. The last one was disposed of in 1971. One unique feature was the use of a Superior hand brake.
Doug Harding www.iowacentralrr.org
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Remiarz
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 8:58 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Stmfc List Subject: [RealSTMFC] M&StL 30000 series gondola kit under development
Joe Binish asked me to forward this to the list. He is having some technical issues.
Sincerely, Rich Remiarz
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Tank Car help Identification
David
Looks like an insulated high-pressure tank, so ICC class 105 most
likely. The Atlas or Kadee tanks are a good starting point. The logo
on the side is for Smith-Douglass, a Norfolk,VA-based fertilizer
company. From a 1964 New York Times article:
"Besides its fertilizer production and animal feed supplements, Smith???Douglass makes phosphoric and sulphuric acid, nitrogenous tankage, anhydrous and aqua ammonia, superphosphate and silica fluorides, potashes, nitric acid and ground gypsum rock. Its principal business is in the tobacco, cotton, peanut and truck growing areas of the South and the corn and wheat belt of the Middle West. It also makes insecticides, pesticides, herbicides and defoliants. Total assets approximate $58 million." David Thompson
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M&StL 30000 series gondola kit under development
Richard Remiarz
Joe Binish asked me to forward this to the list. He is having some technical issues.
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Sincerely,
Rich Remiarz Begin forwarded message:
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Tank Car help Identification
Seth Lakin
Group, if anyone can help me identify the white tank car that is behind the 2-D+D-2 "*800 Class" in the two slides that were recently listed on ebay?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Slide-CSS-SB-South-Shore-Little-Joe-802-Action-Michigan-City-IN-1970/312794664209?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Slide-CSS-SB-South-Shore-Little-Joe-802-Action-Michigan-City-IN-1970/401851134960?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 Builder, series, commodity, other photos of the cars would be helpful. Then a HO scale model, or kitbash start direction and decals. Any thing that can help in building a model of the tank. Thanks Seth Lakin Michigan City IN
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Re: Photo: Painting A Boxcar On The RIP Track
Dennis Storzek
On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 03:11 PM, gary laakso wrote:
Plus there is snow at the top of the door track.But the roof was painted (and it looks freshly painted or coated with car cement, as does the end) yesterday, or the day before, before it snowed. The angle the guy is working from is automatically going to form a color separation at the tip of the top plate of the side, which is hopefully not wet from the snow melt, but hey, the boss said "There's a war going on, get it painted so we can letter it and get it back on the road." I suspect when he gets to the end of the side he's going to angle the blowpipe so he paints the near side of the corner, without too much over spray on the end. These rigs put out big droplets, and not much spray dust, you'll note there is no cloud of over spray where the fan of paint from the nozzle is hitting the carside. These rigs were designed for coverage, not surface finish. :-) Dennis Storzek
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Re: Photo: Painting A Boxcar On The RIP Track
Don go to https://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/fsac.1a34633/ and you can download a 136mb tif file of this photo. In that size you can clearly see the spray coming out of the end of the pipe being held by the workman. The spray is the same color as the fresh paint on the car, as is the spot the spray is hitting.
Doug Harding www.iowacentralrr.org
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Donald B. Valentine via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 3:30 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Painting A Boxcar On The RIP Track
Hello Bruce,
There is no speculation involved here at all. To me the man is NOT spray painting. Look hard at the equipment being used. Have your or anyone else ever seen a spray gun with a nozzle at the end of a pipe some 8 to 10 feet long? I have not. Anything is possible but we have a piece of equipment at one place I work that look almost exactly like what it seen in the photo but it is a sand blast unit, not a sprat paint unit. Having a Doctorate in Inorganic Chemistry I have spoken with Bill Aldrich about h the photo. He feels it "could" be a paint system but seriously questions its use outdoors in weather cold enough to have snow on the ground. It would require well thinned paint and good pressure to keep the paint particles for precipitating from whatever medium they were carried in and questions how long one could paint like this without things plugging up badly as soon as the flow was shut off. It is too bad I cannpt enlarge the photo to get a better view of it but It is going to take at least that to convince me this is not a sandblast rig very similar to the one I am familiar with.
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Re: Photo: Painting A Boxcar On The RIP Track
Brian Termunde
Also, if you look at the upper right corner of the car, the color looks blackish or at least dark while the rest of the looks freshly painted. At least that is how it appears to me. Take Care,
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, Utah
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Re: Photo: Painting A Boxcar On The RIP Track
gary laakso
Plus there is snow at the top of the door track. Thanks, for the better quality picture, Bruce!
Gary Laakso Northwest of Mike Brock
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Heninger
Oh, I should mention one other thing: I doubt this particular car got it's roof repainted: I've seen a few photos of freshly repainted steam era house cars where it's obvious the roof didn't get repainted, just the visible sides and ends.
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Re: Photo: Painting A Boxcar On The RIP Track
Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
The pipe paint sprayer apparently was a common thing back in the day. I have seen photos of WM hoppers and N&W hoppers being painted as such. I can see this as a faster and safer way to cover something as large as a freight car. Roger Huber Deer Creek Locomotive Works
On Monday, October 14, 2019, 04:57:43 PM CDT, Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:
Sorry, Don, this was a common painting technique. Both SP and PFE used it, to name two.
Tony Thompson On Oct 14, 2019, at 9:30 PM, Donald B. Valentine via Groups.Io <riverman_vt@...> wrote:
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Re: Photo: Painting A Boxcar On The RIP Track
Tony Thompson
Sorry, Don, this was a common painting technique. Both SP and PFE used it, to name two.
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On Oct 14, 2019, at 9:30 PM, Donald B. Valentine via Groups.Io <riverman_vt@...> wrote:
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Re: Photo: Painting A Boxcar On The RIP Track
Don,
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I hope that you can appreciate that there are a lot of things that you have never seen that still manage to exist ;)
Thank you for the alternative explanation of sand blasting, and it has merit, but I do not think that it is correct. Here is the full sized image (clicked the link on the top right of the photo)
A careful look will show you that there is a stream of something exiting the tip of the pipe. Now, I’ll admit that it could be abrasive media, but I doubt it. The material appears to be the same color as the very, very freshly painted car side
to the left of the worker, whereas to the right of the worker is a small amount of already prepped car side. In addition, there is no accumulation of any sort of abrasive material on the ground under the car.
Regards,
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
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Re: Photo: Painting A Boxcar On The RIP Track
mopacfirst
In Terry Metcalf's Union Pacific 1936-1951 book, there is a photo of a guy painting a freight car while standing on the ground, and he's wielding a similar extension nozzle. .Presumably the color is slightly different.
I suspect this method of painting was fairly common for cars painted in the open air. The airless sprayer was already a fairly established technology by the 1930s. Ron Merrick
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