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Re: SP Transfer Caboose; was Fixing Shifted Loads

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Brian,

Of even more importance, you got a photo of a rare SP transfer caboose. I don't have Tony's SP caboose book, so maybe he could comment more on this car and others, especially if any were in use during our period of interest. The only one I knew of was SP 1, a car with a slightly larger cabin, that served in the Roseville Yard near the end of caboose operations.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff

On 10/24/2019 12:43 PM, brianleppert@... wrote:
Here are two views of Southern Pacific's "load shifter" at their Taylor Yard in Los Angeles , July 1966.  Not good photos, but I was only 15 with a plastic camera.

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV


Re: Wabash auto boxcar

Tim O'Connor
 


Mark Vaughan decals - stocked by Des Plaines Hobbies




On 10/24/2019 6:09 AM, Fred Jansz wrote:
Hi All,

Bought this OMI Wabash auto car and wonder if someone knows if there are decals available for this car?
Thanks for your advise.
best regards,
Fred Jansz

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


What Is This Box?

Bob Chaparro
 

What Is This Box?

In the photo on this link there is a box attached to the crossing sign:

http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-10-10-19/X7818.jpg

Could this be a waybill box for the (possible) spur or siding that is to the left of the picture?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Fixing Shifted Loads

Tim O'Connor
 


I'm sure it depends on the era. Modern steel devices like this one were built postwar.
I know the GN had a similar device as this one in Gavin Yard.

Tim O'





On 10/23/2019 10:41 PM, Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io wrote:

What is the name of the fixture used to right shifted loads on flat cars and gondolas?

Were these fixtures manufactured by specific companies or typically built by the railroads?

Bob Chaparro

Thanks.

Hemet, CA



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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Fixing Shifted Loads

brianleppert@att.net
 

Here are two views of Southern Pacific's "load shifter" at their Taylor Yard in Los Angeles , July 1966.  Not good photos, but I was only 15 with a plastic camera.

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV


Re: Fixing Shifted Loads

Bob Chaparro
 

Several of you responded "load shifter" and a Google search of this term with the term "railroad" revealed this to be a common term. Thank you.
Unfortunately, the Google search produced no photos.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Fixing Shifted Loads

Richard Wilkens
 

Also know as a load shifter on the SP&S.

Rich Wilkens
Archivist, SP&S Railway Historical Society.


Wabash auto boxcar

Fred Jansz
 

Hi All,

Bought this OMI Wabash auto car and wonder if someone knows if there are decals available for this car?
Thanks for your advise.
best regards,
Fred Jansz


Re: Fixing Shifted Loads

np328
 

My railroad called it a "Load Shifter" and had several along the line. Up until the later 1950's, they were hand powered with crank on cable take up spools.  I recently came upon an AFE while researching for someone where electric motors were to be added to the existing device.  
The device (in plans) looked home built of very heavy timbers.    Jim Dick - Roseville, MN


Re: Fixing Shifted Loads

James SANDIFER
 

I took the photo during a visit at Steamtown, though it is well out of that era.  

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 9:42 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Fixing Shifted Loads

 

What is the name of the fixture used to right shifted loads on flat cars and gondolas?

Were these fixtures manufactured by specific companies or typically built by the railroads?

Bob Chaparro

Thanks.

Hemet, CA


Fixing Shifted Loads

Bob Chaparro
 

What is the name of the fixture used to right shifted loads on flat cars and gondolas?

Were these fixtures manufactured by specific companies or typically built by the railroads?

Bob Chaparro

Thanks.

Hemet, CA


Re: Type Of Trucks?

Rob M.
 

In lieu of the RPCYC- From one of our own:

https://old.atsfrr.org/Reviews/HO/Freight/IRM%20BX-37%2043/Index.htm

Rob Mondichak 


Re: Type Of Trucks?

Nelson Moyer
 

Here’s my guess:

 

ATSF 141702 has National Type B-2 trucks. You can use Kadee or Walthers, maybe others?

 

ATSF 144028 looks like AAR Double Truss trucks best represented by TMW-107.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 12:42 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Type Of Trucks?

 

These are links to builder's photos of two Santa Fe Bx-37 boxcars:

ATSF 144028

http://www.idaillinois.org/digital/collection/pshs/id/19582/rec/14

ATSF 141702

http://www.idaillinois.org/digital/collection/pshs/id/18076/rec/42

What types of trucks are under these cars?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

P.S.: These links are from the Illinois State Library's Digital Archives. There are many freight car (mostly boxcar) photos on this website:

http://www.idaillinois.org/digital/

A search for most terms brings up a lot of pages so use the Format Box to narrow down your search to "photograph".

 


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Type Of Trucks?

Bob Chaparro
 

These are links to builder's photos of two Santa Fe Bx-37 boxcars:

ATSF 144028

http://www.idaillinois.org/digital/collection/pshs/id/19582/rec/14

ATSF 141702

http://www.idaillinois.org/digital/collection/pshs/id/18076/rec/42

What types of trucks are under these cars?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

P.S.: These links are from the Illinois State Library's Digital Archives. There are many freight car (mostly boxcar) photos on this website:

http://www.idaillinois.org/digital/

A search for most terms brings up a lot of pages so use the Format Box to narrow down your search to "photograph".


Re: SOO Line prewar 50 foot double door box car

rwitt_2000
 

Steve and Dennis, thank you for your replies as they fill-in some gaps in my knowledge of freight cars. I didn't realize Pullman-Standard had this thing and actually built boxcar with interior lengths of 50-ft.

In this period, the depression, my railroad, the B&O, was building experimental and production wagon-top box cars in their own shops and not working much with commercial car builders.

Bob Witt


Re: is "hogging" a correct word for adjusting truss rod equipped cars

David Wiggs
 

In terms of ships at sea, they exhibit stresses caused by wave action.  Two of these are longitudinal stresses; sagging and hogging which caused by a ship heading though waves and troughs.  Sagging is when the bow and stern are in the wave peaks and the middle is in a trough which bends the middle down, and hogging conversely, is when the bow and stern are in troughs and the middle is on a wave peak which bends the middle up.  So, to tighten the torsion rods to cause an upward bend in the car middle is entirely reasonable to be caused hogging.

davo in Orlando


Re: Precision Scale retainer valve

 

Mel,

As a clarification, Eltopia is in central Washington, not eastern.  I used to go fishing in the Potholes area long ago, and we would pass through it on our way from the tri-cities.  I didnt want anyone to look for it on a trip to Spokane and be disappointed.  THAT would be terrible :>)

Best Regards,

Mike Aufderheide


Re: SOO Line prewar 50 foot double door box car

Dennis Storzek
 

On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 07:19 PM, rwitt_2000 wrote:
Since these cars were constructed for paper or news print service would the shorter interior length of 50'-0" be the result of extra thick end linings?
Bob,

Steve Hile gave a more complete answer since he has viewed the P-S drawings and I have not, but it's my impression that the 50'-0" IL was a Pullman Standard thing, since the 50' P-S cars with 6' doors built in 1936 share the same IL, with a length over the strikers of 51'-2 1/2". The post war cars the Soo built at North Fond du Lac are 51-10 3/4" over the strikers with a 50'-6" IL, except insulted cars which are shorter inside due to the insulation in the ends.

Wandering into the future for a bit, I recall in the eighties, after Wisconsin Central Ltd. took over the old Soo trackage in Wisconsin, they were running the 50' exterior post cars built by the Soo in the sixties, which also had Dreadnaught ends, through the shops to add two reinforcing beams across the lower end to beef them up for roll paper loading. Apparently Dreadnaught ends aren't quite up to the rigors of paper service.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Baltimore & Ohio early diesel lettering font

 

Jack R. & I put together the initial font and logo offering on the B&O RR Historical Society website 14 years ago. (Goodness, was it that long ago?!) I drew the "13 Great States" logo and Jack did the fonts. We scanned the original blueprints and used them as a guide for creating the digital versions. I've seen the "13 Great States" logo used on various model freight cars which is always tons of fun.  Another B&ORRHS member, Kenneth VM, put together the other fonts on the page. 

You can find them here:  https://borhs.org/Logos/bo_font_logo.html

Hopefully they will be of use to you. If you have any questions, let me know and I can hopefully help out. I don't get to the Archvies as much as I would like (kids, job, house, etc. get in the way) but I'm only 30m away so I can run up there if more material is needed.

____________________________________________________________
Ben Sullivan
Brookeville, MD
Researching & Modeling the Georgetown Branch of the B&O in HO scale
http://sluggyjunx.com/rr/gb/


Re: Precision Scale retainer valve

Bryian Sones
 

Ah yes, I purchase a lot of stuff from their ebay store. Good to hear and know they are the owners. They have good customer service and very prompt shipping.  

Bryian Sones
Union Pacific Prototype Modeler
Murrieta, CA


On Tuesday, October 22, 2019, 08:56:55 PM PDT, Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...> wrote:


On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 07:26 PM, mel perry wrote:
precision scale was purchased by the
prantiles of eltopia, wa, (spokane)they also have
a epay shop, j-tprantiles, good people
to deal with
mel perry
They've also done business for years as PF&S Railway Supply, as both a distributor and retail shop. I agree, good people.

Dennis Storzek