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Re: Swift paint scheme

gary laakso
 

Is that a narrow gauge, maybe 2 foot, track parallel to the car?  It sure appears to be flanges ways.

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve and Barb Hile
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 2:36 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Swift paint scheme

 

Wow, Bill, thanks for this documentation!  How did you ever locate this image?

 

Steve Hile

 


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Kelly
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 4:06 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Swift paint scheme

This photo should help with all the speculation. It is the other side of the car apparently taken at the same time. Different lighting, different results.  The car number is 12824.

Later,

Bill Kelly

 

 





Re: Swift paint scheme

Steve and Barb Hile
 

Wow, Bill, thanks for this documentation!  How did you ever locate this image?
 
Steve Hile



From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Kelly
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 4:06 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Swift paint scheme

This photo should help with all the speculation. It is the other side of the car apparently taken at the same time. Different lighting, different results.  The car number is 12824.
Later,
Bill Kelly
 
 



Re: Swift paint scheme

Bill Kelly
 


This photo should help with all the speculation. It is the other side of the car apparently taken at the same time. Different lighting, different results.  The car number is 12824.
Later,
Bill Kelly
 
 



Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Boxcar With Roof Hatches

Tim O'Connor
 

Elden, PRR X31A 79156 (w/ roof hatches) was photographed in Pueblo Colorado.

On 10/31/2019 12:58 PM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD wrote:
Gang;

I looked through my materials and only found two instances on the PRR:

X29K sub-class with round roof hatches; apparently in loose flour service, and,

X31A small number of random cars in coal tar chip service, like the attached I modeled.

Elden Gatwood
--
*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


Re: There's the OMI Wabash steel dd car...eh NOT

Tim O'Connor
 

Fred

Overland imported original and rebuilt cars, including a single door version.



On 10/31/2019 11:04 AM, Fred Jansz wrote:
Received my OMI 'Wabash' steel dd boxcar today...NOT.
This 'wooden' ss beauty was in the box.
It reminds me of something, but not a steel Wabash dd car.
Any idea what it might be?
regards
Fred Jansz

Attachments:



--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Chicagoland RPM Handouts

gtws00
 

Don,
I use Chrome for a Browser. When select each one to download, they go to my download folder and I retrieve them from that location
In my Chrome Browser, they also show at the very bottom left hand side of the browser
George Toman


Re: Boxcar With Roof Hatches

Charlie Vlk
 

Could be for hauling dried processed sewage from the IC subsidiary Illinois Northern which could get it from the Metropolitan Sanitary District of Chicago.   The MSDC had their own dump cars which presumably hauled the wet “product” to dumps on the IN and there, after drying, it was further processed.   I know you could get dump truck loads of the stuff delivered in the Chicago area; don’t know if it was bagged and shipped elsewhere or if it was shipped bulk without packaging out of the area.

Charlie Vlk

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeffrey White
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 11:31 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Boxcar With Roof Hatches

 

The IC had fertilizer sludge cars (I have no idea what fertilizer sludge is) they converted from SS boxcars they acquired from the Tennessee Coal and Iron Railroad.  I haven't got a photo but the diagram sheet says 4 roof hatches and plywood lining.

Jeff White

Alma, IL

On 10/30/2019 9:16 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

Bob

A quick scan of the hard drive shows ACL, ATSF, BAR, BN, CN, CG, CP, D&H, DTI, EL, GN,
HS, LV, MILW, MONON, MP, N&W, NS, OAR, PC, PRR, RI, SAL, SCL, SOU, TH&B, UP, and WABASH
all had box cars with roof hatches.

And that's not a complete list. Tony mentioned the SP, too.

Tim



On 10/30/2019 5:51 PM, Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io wrote:

Boxcar With Roof Hatches

I've seen a few photos of boxcars with roof hatches for loading such commodities as aluminum dross, cement, various clays, lime and spent grain.

All of the photos I've seen are associated with shippers in the Southeast and Midwest.

Would such boxcars have served shippers in the Southwest to any degree?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

 


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Photos: Reefers Refrigerated With Drumgold And Glenn Brine System

Bob Chaparro
 


Re: Chicagoland RPM Handouts

Nolan Hinshaw
 

On Oct 31, 2019, at 08:31, Donald B. Valentine via Groups.Io <riverman_vt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Boxcar With Roof Hatches

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Jeff, and all;

A fertilizer sludge car was, unfortunately, exactly what it sounds like: an old car on its last legs, converted to haul liquid feces waste from the fertilizer process, lined and coated inside with tar, with roof hatches and bottom outlets. I remember a few of these from my childhood, rolling by, dripping profusely, and driving me away from trackside.

The box car version of an offal car, with a different, but equally vile aroma.

Just the thing for a layout, with "Real Smell technology".

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeffrey White
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 12:31 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Boxcar With Roof Hatches

The IC had fertilizer sludge cars (I have no idea what fertilizer sludge is) they converted from SS boxcars they acquired from the Tennessee Coal and Iron Railroad. I haven't got a photo but the diagram sheet says 4 roof hatches and plywood lining.

Jeff White

Alma, IL


On 10/30/2019 9:16 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:


Bob

A quick scan of the hard drive shows ACL, ATSF, BAR, BN, CN, CG, CP, D&H, DTI, EL, GN,
HS, LV, MILW, MONON, MP, N&W, NS, OAR, PC, PRR, RI, SAL, SCL, SOU, TH&B, UP, and WABASH
all had box cars with roof hatches.

And that's not a complete list. Tony mentioned the SP, too.

Tim



On 10/30/2019 5:51 PM, Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io wrote:


Boxcar With Roof Hatches

I've seen a few photos of boxcars with roof hatches for loading such commodities as aluminum dross, cement, various clays, lime and spent grain.

All of the photos I've seen are associated with shippers in the Southeast and Midwest.

Would such boxcars have served shippers in the Southwest to any degree?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA



--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Boxcar With Roof Hatches

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Gang;

I looked through my materials and only found two instances on the PRR:

X29K sub-class with round roof hatches; apparently in loose flour service, and,

X31A small number of random cars in coal tar chip service, like the attached I modeled.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeffrey White
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 12:31 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Boxcar With Roof Hatches

The IC had fertilizer sludge cars (I have no idea what fertilizer sludge is) they converted from SS boxcars they acquired from the Tennessee Coal and Iron Railroad. I haven't got a photo but the diagram sheet says 4 roof hatches and plywood lining.

Jeff White

Alma, IL


On 10/30/2019 9:16 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:


Bob

A quick scan of the hard drive shows ACL, ATSF, BAR, BN, CN, CG, CP, D&H, DTI, EL, GN,
HS, LV, MILW, MONON, MP, N&W, NS, OAR, PC, PRR, RI, SAL, SCL, SOU, TH&B, UP, and WABASH
all had box cars with roof hatches.

And that's not a complete list. Tony mentioned the SP, too.

Tim



On 10/30/2019 5:51 PM, Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io wrote:


Boxcar With Roof Hatches

I've seen a few photos of boxcars with roof hatches for loading such commodities as aluminum dross, cement, various clays, lime and spent grain.

All of the photos I've seen are associated with shippers in the Southeast and Midwest.

Would such boxcars have served shippers in the Southwest to any degree?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA



--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Boxcar With Roof Hatches

Jeffrey White
 

The IC had fertilizer sludge cars (I have no idea what fertilizer sludge is) they converted from SS boxcars they acquired from the Tennessee Coal and Iron Railroad.  I haven't got a photo but the diagram sheet says 4 roof hatches and plywood lining.

Jeff White

Alma, IL

On 10/30/2019 9:16 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
Bob

A quick scan of the hard drive shows ACL, ATSF, BAR, BN, CN, CG, CP, D&H, DTI, EL, GN,
HS, LV, MILW, MONON, MP, N&W, NS, OAR, PC, PRR, RI, SAL, SCL, SOU, TH&B, UP, and WABASH
all had box cars with roof hatches.

And that's not a complete list. Tony mentioned the SP, too.

Tim



On 10/30/2019 5:51 PM, Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io wrote:

Boxcar With Roof Hatches

I've seen a few photos of boxcars with roof hatches for loading such commodities as aluminum dross, cement, various clays, lime and spent grain.

All of the photos I've seen are associated with shippers in the Southeast and Midwest.

Would such boxcars have served shippers in the Southwest to any degree?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA



--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Boxcar With Roof Hatches

mopacfirst
 

Add T&P, for maybe 5 cars.

Ron Merrick


Re: Boxcar With Roof Hatches

Craig Wilson
 

Beyond the scope of this list but . . . these cars relate to the subject line and the cars have built dates prior to 1960.

In 1965 Canadian National modified 40-foot boxcars with roof hatches for potash loading (Melville Sask).  These cars were routed to smaller co-ops and elevators (including in the US) that could not handle the larger 100-ton covered hoppers.  The rectangular hatches were underneath the running boards second panel in from the ends.

CN 440000-440199:  10-0 IH cars, NSC-2 ends, rectangular panel roof, 6-foot doors, blt 1945
Photo on p. 6 of Canadian Rail Car Pictorial, Vol 2 A, by Richard Yaremko

CN 442000-442099:  10-6 IH cars, NSC-3 ends, combination roof*, 8-foot doors, blt 1957
Photo on p. 26 of Canadian Rail Car Pictorial, Vol 2 A, by Richard Yaremko
*Interesting looking roof:  center panels NSC style (look like PS bowtie panels), second panel in from the ends rectangular shape and have hatches under the running board, outermost panels blank.  Elgin Car Shops (Yarmouth) makes a model of the unmodified version of this car.

Captions in the books indicate that these car were in service 1965-1990.

Craig Wilson


Re: There's the OMI Wabash steel dd car...eh NOT

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

Fred this car was converted from the double  door auto car.  I have both cars.  The Overland car was well done except for the underframe.  After Lysle last year I drove down to the Monticello Rail Museum where they had an auto car.  Wouldn't you know that my camera battery was dead when I got there.  Did get some photos on my phone.

I questioned the single door version a few years ago on this list and got a great photo from  one of the members.

I have more information at home but am currently having my morning coffee in San Francisco.  Will be home on the weekend if you need any more information.

Bill Pardie



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-------- Original message --------
From: Fred Jansz <fred@...>
Date: 10/31/19 8:04 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] There's the OMI Wabash steel dd car...eh NOT

Received my OMI 'Wabash' steel dd boxcar today...NOT.
This 'wooden' ss beauty was in the box.
It reminds me of something, but not a steel Wabash dd car.
Any idea what it might be?
regards
Fred Jansz


Re: There's the OMI Wabash steel dd car...eh NOT

Fred Jansz
 

Thank you Ben! It's a 76000-series car indeed.
According to BT, OMI made a few variations, probably the previous owner grabbed the wrong box.
Now let's see if I can score that steel dd car too!
regards
Fred Jansz
(© picture Brasstrains)


Re: New Manufacturer

Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
 

On 10/30/2019 7:10 AM, Michael Gross wrote:
Among them, a styrene version of the ATSF Bx 11 — Bx 13 single sheathed box car series.

Now that would be a winner!

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
SPROG User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Chicagoland RPM Handouts

Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

Are these supposed to be downloadable so they can be printed if desired? If so that does not seem to be working.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: There's the OMI Wabash steel dd car...eh NOT

Paul Doggett
 

Definitely not SP 

Paul Doggett 


On 31 Oct 2019, at 15:04, Fred Jansz <fred@...> wrote:

Received my OMI 'Wabash' steel dd boxcar today...NOT.
This 'wooden' ss beauty was in the box.
It reminds me of something, but not a steel Wabash dd car.
Any idea what it might be?
regards
Fred Jansz

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Re: There's the OMI Wabash steel dd car...eh NOT

Benjamin Hom
 

Fred Jansz asked:
"Received my OMI 'Wabash' steel dd boxcar today...NOT.  This 'wooden' SS beauty was in the box.  It reminds me of something, but not a steel Wabash DD car.  Any idea what it might be?"

Notes from Chet French, posted on the Steam Era Freight Cars website:
" In 1941, the Wabash converted 239 of the 46000 series auto cars to 6' door cars and numbered them 76000-76238.  The roster showed 93 car remaining as of July 1, 1957.  They looked similar to the 74000 series 6' door cars converted from the 40000 series auto cars."


Ben Hom

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