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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] OMI 1930-built GATC 10, 000 Gal double dome tank car
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Guys;
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I don't remember the car number, but Richard Hendrickson and I discussed it, and he sent a photocopy of the prototype. It was lettered "NIPX", for Northern Indiana Public Utilities, IIRC. The car was of approx. 1930 vintage, and had very unusual dome appliances, but does look like a GATC car. Yes they are rare, but not unheard of. I have seen at least 2 other examples, both in coal byproducts service. Given no one has photos of ALL tank cars, I like Bruce's suggestion.... Elden Gatwood
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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bruce Smith Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 8:56 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] OMI 1930-built GATC 10, 000 Gal double dome tank car Fred, This model appears to be OMI #3230, and has been discussed a number of times on this list. Some brief observations. First, two-compartment tank cars are rare. Two compartment insulated tank cars, such as this, are vanishingly rare. Two compartment, 10K, GATC built insulated cars? This car may represent a single car with a history that is difficult to trace. If you go back to post #135461, you will get the history of this model. Richard Hendrickson indicated that he had NEVER seen a photo of a GATC 10K insulated two-compartment tank in revenue service. That's not promising for this model. Second, if it is the model I think it is, good luck actually getting it to run (made by Cheyenne, China, not Ajin, Korea). The couplers are significantly over height and there is no easy fix for that. I am told that the trucks interfere with the underbody rigging and that the trucks are grossly too wide. Is it correct for your era? Yes, probably. Appropriate paint and lettering? Nobody knows (that's the good news) so maybe just use the Black Cat GATX decals, and paint it black and number it in the GATX two compartment series. I would consider an alternative, which is to sell it and get a useful model 😉 Regards, Bruce Smith Auburn, AL ________________________________ From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Fred Jansz <fred@janszmedia.nl> Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 3:32 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Subject: [RealSTMFC] OMI 1930-built GATC 10,000 Gal double dome tank car Gents, purchased this OMI 1930-built GATC 10,000 Gal double dome tank car recently. However, I have no info about these cars at all regarding time span and paint schemes. I model/collect 1950 (the year). Any help is appreciated. Thank you, best regards, Fred Jansz
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Re: OMI 1930-built GATC 10,000 Gal double dome tank car
Fred,
This model appears to be OMI #3230, and has been discussed a number of times on this list. Some brief observations. First, two-compartment tank cars are rare. Two compartment insulated tank cars, such as this, are vanishingly rare. Two compartment, 10K, GATC
built insulated cars? This car may represent a single car with a history that is difficult to trace. If you go back to post #135461, you will get the history of this model. Richard Hendrickson indicated that he had NEVER seen a photo of a GATC 10K insulated
two-compartment tank in revenue service. That's not promising for this model. Second, if it is the model I think it is, good luck actually getting it to run (made by Cheyenne, China, not Ajin, Korea). The couplers are significantly over height and there is
no easy fix for that. I am told that the trucks interfere with the underbody rigging and that the trucks are grossly too wide.
Is it correct for your era? Yes, probably.
Appropriate paint and lettering? Nobody knows (that's the good news) so maybe just use the Black Cat GATX decals, and paint it black and number it in the GATX two compartment series.
I would consider an alternative, which is to sell it and get a useful model 😉
Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Fred Jansz <fred@...>
Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 3:32 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Subject: [RealSTMFC] OMI 1930-built GATC 10,000 Gal double dome tank car Gents,
purchased this OMI 1930-built GATC 10,000 Gal double dome tank car recently. However, I have no info about these cars at all regarding time span and paint schemes. I model/collect 1950 (the year). Any help is appreciated. Thank you, best regards, Fred Jansz
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Re: Looking for way back issues of Railroad Model Craftsman
Eric Hansmann
If you are an NMRA member, a request to the library might yield some photocopies.
At least that's what I've been told is a membership benefit.
Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN
On November 4, 2019 at 6:28 AM mel perry <clipper841@...> wrote:
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Re: Looking for way back issues of Railroad Model Craftsman
mel perry
to anyone looking for rmc's ftom the carsten era, don't look to white river, they dumped everything, your choices are, ebay, railroad treasures or the nmra library, yes they have a collection of some what, from estates good luck mel perry
On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 5:22 AM Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
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Looking for way back issues of Railroad Model Craftsman
Folks,
I am looking for articles from two back issues of RMC by Al Turner
Railroad Model Craftsman January 1987 p. 56
Railroad Model Craftsman February 1987 p. 73
White River Productions has not been able to provide these from their archives. The articles are on powering MDC's static HON3 2-4-4-2, which, of course, would be used to haul freight cars.
Please respond to me off list at smithbf at auburn.edu
Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
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OMI 1930-built GATC 10,000 Gal double dome tank car
Fred Jansz
Gents,
purchased this OMI 1930-built GATC 10,000 Gal double dome tank car recently. However, I have no info about these cars at all regarding time span and paint schemes. I model/collect 1950 (the year). Any help is appreciated. Thank you, best regards, Fred Jansz
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NYCHS Accurail Reefer Kit
Andy Laurent
Gents,
I am looking for one or two of the HO scale Accurail MDT reefer kits that the NYC Historical Society released in 2014. If you have one or two that you would be willing to sell, please contact me off list. https://nycshs.org/2013/12/06/the-reefers-are-coming/ Thank you, Andy L. Wisconsin
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Re: Soo auto box kits
Eric Hansmann
Once a new kit is posted to the RCW Kits page, any extra photos, plans, and instructions have been posted to a page of Extras that are linked to each kit description. Here's the Soo Line kit page. Scroll to the bottom for the PDFs. Right click on the links and download them to your computer archive for long term reference.
We hope to post an Extras page for the Whalebelly boxcar kits this week.
Eric Hansmann
RCW web guy
On November 3, 2019 at 7:31 AM "bill woelfel via Groups.Io" <bwoelfeljr@...> wrote:
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Re: Soo auto box kits
bill woelfel
Eric, when will the ATSF car instructions be posted?? Bill (itchin to start work)
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Re: Boxcar With Roof Hatches
Jim Gates
3M had several that were at home on the Santa Fe's Corona branch. Jim Gates
On Wednesday, October 30, 2019, 4:51:29 PM CDT, Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote: Boxcar With Roof Hatches I've seen a few photos of boxcars with roof hatches for loading such commodities as aluminum dross, cement, various clays, lime and spent grain. All of the photos I've seen are associated with shippers in the Southeast and Midwest. Would such boxcars have served shippers in the Southwest to any degree? Thanks. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Soo auto box kits
Eric Hansmann
The Resin Car Works minions have caught their breath and details on the new HO scale Soo Line automobile boxcar are now on the website. More details have been posted on the RCW blog.
Eric Hansmann
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Re: Private Name Freight Cars for Exchange
Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
All a good reminder than model railroading is fun. Thanks for posting these. Cordially, Don Valentine
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Re: Private Name Freight Cars for Exchange
Ken Soroos
Hi Les -
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I enjoyed looking at these. Aside from your cars, I especially enjoyed seeing the Fredonia Northern car by Ken Herman(n?). We would get together once in a while when we both lived in North Dakota. I think I have a set of his decals around here somewhere too. Ken
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Private Name Freight Cars for Exchange
Lester Breuer
I have finished an upgrade of a Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company boxcar. An Accurail boxcar built for the Central Of Minnesota to complete our exchange of freight cars. Photos of other exchange cars and upgrade details of my M&N boxcar are included. If you are interested, photos and writeup of the upgrade including paint match are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company. If you would like to take a look please do at the following link:
http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/ Lester Breuer
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Re: Evergreen Styrene Quality Control
Every sort of manufacturing has to deal with tolerances. The tighter the tolerance, the higher the cost. Those last few percent from perfection can raise cost by a factor of 10 or 100 times. At some point, the product becomes unaffordable and no one buys it. The wise manufacturer finds a sweet spot between quality and price. We see in our field those who sell lots of low accuracy cars and those who sell much fewer high accuracy cars. Luckily, we have a couple in the middle. Chuck Peck
On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 8:29 PM gtws00 via Groups.Io <gtws00=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: Bill, I also have found that the sheet thickness and strips vary from package to package. I always measure with my calipers and find the closest size and try to use from the same package for a project.
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Re: Evergreen Styrene Quality Control
gtws00
Bill, I also have found that the sheet thickness and strips vary from package to package. I always measure with my calipers and find the closest size and try to use from the same package for a project.
I have been finding my .010 to be .0115 or greater George Toman
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Re: Boxcar With Roof Hatches
David Wiggs
ACL had Pullman
Standard build them some boxcars with roof hatches in the 1960s to haul
kailin. These steel cars had the bracing on the outside, were painted
white or light grey and had red lettering. Tichy, I believe, sells decals
for these cars. A SC buddy of mine made some in 1-48 scale back
in the late 1980s.
davo in
Orlando
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Re: Swift paint scheme
Patrick Wade
Sorry I will not make it to the swap meet. We have been prepping for a huge family weeding all week. Tomorrow is the day.
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On Nov 1, 2019, at 8:11 AM, Bill Kelly <wbkelly@...> wrote:
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Re: Swift paint scheme
Bill Kelly
This negative was for sale on ebay. No, I didn't buy it.
Later,
Bill Kelly
On Thu, 31 Oct 2019 16:35:52 -0500 "Steve and Barb Hile" <shile@...> writes:
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Re: Sorry for the delay
Pierre Oliver
The Buckeye Cushion trucks shown were one of 4 different styles
of trucks that these cars were built with. Pierre Oliver www.elgincarshops.com www.yarmouthmodelworks.com On 11/01/19 9:44 a.m., Kemal Mumcu via
Groups.Io wrote:
They look great Pierre. Did you swap Tahoe trucks for the odd looking resin trucks (Elsey?) that your display models have?
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