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Refrigerator Clean-out Track

Peter Hall
 

I'd like to ask the group to please send me photos of refrigerator car clean-out tracks.  I need to know what facilities were available at, say, PFE yards for cleaning out their reefers, in the immediate post-WWII era.  If not PFE, then any reefer clean-out track will do.

Thanks in advance.
Pete

Re: how automobiles were loaded onto racks in boxcars in 1932

Jack Mullen
 

This group of photos was discussed here recently. 
A key point is that the trucks are NOT loaded on racks, but are supported with individual wooden A-frames and blocking, the pre-rack technology. This link should take you to the original thread:
https://realstmfc.groups.io/g/main/topic/35071473?p=Created,,,20,1,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,0,60,35071473
Jack Mullen

Re: QREX Reporting Marks

Tony Thompson
 

Bob Chaparro wrote:

QREX Reporting Marks
Ian's Cranstone's list of reporting marks show QREX as assigned to:
Quaker City Refrigerator Line (7/1930-7/1932)
Quaker City Refrigerator Line (General American Tank Car Corp. 7/1935)
General American Transportation Corp. (7/1937)
I've noticed quite a few models carry the QREX reporting marks. These include the following companies . . .
I only found a prototype photo for Schlosser Brothers Dairy Products.
Can anyone verify prototypes for the other QREX reefers?

   See Chapter 9 in Hendrickson and Kaminski's book on Billboard Reefers, which covers Quaker, and includes these and other examples of prototype paint schemes. Full disclosure: it's a Signature Press book.

Tony Thompson



QREX Reporting Marks

Bob Chaparro
 

QREX Reporting Marks

Ian's Cranstone's list of reporting marks show QREX as assigned to:

Quaker City Refrigerator Line (7/1930-7/1932)

Quaker City Refrigerator Line (General American Tank Car Corp. 7/1935)

General American Transportation Corp. (7/1937)

I've noticed quite a few models carry the QREX reporting marks. These include the following companies on those models:

  • Booter's Hatcheries
  • Jack Daniel (You know what this is.)
  • Evansville Packing Company (May Blossom Butter)
  • Grand Union Food Markets
  • Guggenheim Brothers (Beef Packers)
  • Holland Butter
  • Krey Packing Company
  • Madame Butterfly (Cigars)
  • Norman & Company Cheese
  • Red Kamel (Cigarettes)
  • Schlosser Brothers Dairy Products
  • Tick Produce Company (Poultry & Eggs)
  • C. F. Vissman & Company (Pork & Beef Packers)

I only found a prototype photo for Schlosser Brothers Dairy Products.

Can anyone verify prototypes for the other QREX reefers?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] OMI 1930-built double dome tank car

Jon Miller
 

On 11/6/2019 10:43 AM, Jon Miller via Groups.Io wrote:

 

    Got some 4x glasses out and started looking.  Found Ajin in a small etching on the bottom and used calipers on the wheels and they are overall back to front .066. so am assuming  they are actually scale.
-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
SPROG User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS

Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] OMI 1930-built double dome tank car

Jon Miller
 

    Since we are talking about 2 dome cars does anyone have information on this one.  Bought it off (probably) eBay years ago.  At one time I may have known but am getting forgetful.  It came, to me, with the .088 wheelsets, and all painted black.  I'm guessing 8K without doing any measurements. (brass of course)


-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
SPROG User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS

Re: how automobiles were loaded onto racks in boxcars in 1932

Dennis Storzek
 

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 09:38 AM, Claus Schlund \(HGM\) wrote:
http://www.railfan.net/lists/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-10-18-19/X7862.jpg
Those are actually truck chassis. The last image, link above, shows just a bare frame behind the firewall, and you can read GENERAL MOTORS TRUCK on the side of the hood.

Dennis Storzek

Re: PM Box loading with ground corn cobs.

Matt Goodman
 

This has been an interesting thread for me as one of the industries on my Railroad (Maizo Mills) produced patented products from ground corn cobs.

Maizo ground cobs to produce a patented product used for a variety of things. My notes are at home but the uses I remember offhand were as as a de-greaser and polishing medium in machining processes, in the furrier trade (probably as a dessicant) and by jewelry makers as a polishing medium (Maizo was owned by a Columbus jeweler, so it must have been important for that industry). Other contemporary sources said ground corn cobs were a component of linoleum.

Prior to the uses mentioned above, it was also used as a filler in animal feed, which apparently was made illegal in the twenties or thirties. Not a lot of nutritional value.

I have one poor-quality photo showing boxcars outside of Maizo, and an advertisement showing their product in bags - so probably about any class of boxcar could be used for shipping the bagged end product. My assumption is that cobs could have been shipped to Maizo from local elevators, by box car or truck.

This particular mill's output was reported to be 100% dedicated to the war effort (WWII) - especially after a sister mill in Illinois burned to the ground during the war. Maizo's fate was the same, although not until the mid-fifties.  1890's construction materials and methods and dust make good bon fires.

Matt Goodman
Columbus Ohio

On November 4, 2019 at 1:00 PM, "Matt Smith" <flyn96@...> wrote:

Nice pic of car loading with ground corn cobs. I read that corn cobs used during the war effort I believe it had something to do with plastics manufacturing??? Several articles indicated local elevators shipping corn cobs for the war effort.

http://www.idaillinois.org/digital/collection/p16614coll35/id/34348/rec/62

No location but somewhere in the central Illinois area.
5/4/44 IDA Pantagraph Collection
--
Matt Smith
Bloomington, IL



OMI TANK CAR FOOTNOTE

WILLIAM PARDIE
 



One Overland tank car that I was rather pleased with was their Western Asphalt car.  The Roma Wine car is from Precision 
Scale and just happened to be sitting there.

Bill Pardie

how automobiles were loaded onto racks in boxcars in 1932

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] OMI 1930-built double dome tank car

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Elden and List Members,
 
Thanks Elden for pointing out some of the more subtle aspects of the cars in that image. It got me to look deeper than I would have otherwise...
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] OMI 1930-built double dome tank car

Claus;

Looking at:  A tank farm FULL of 103's....

The twins look like ACF-built 4-course ICC 103 8ks with dome platforms, quad spaced tank bands, and single raised dome vents.  Carmer cut levers!  I like the unusual clean-out arrangement on the end.  I suppose you unbolted it and swung it away on that hinge.  Look like a kit-bash of a Tichy kit?

Yes, Carnegie-Illinois Steel.  USS Clairton By-Products plant tank farm.  This is at Clairton, PA (actually Wilson), upriver from Pgh on west bank of the Mon.

This plant produced things like benzol, xylol, toluol, and of course other coal tar by-products like cresols ( think creosote), plus the clean-outs, make me think these are tar cars.

The car coupled to 507, looks like an acid car, 103B, maybe, with those appliances up top.  That dome is really unusual.  I just have never seen one like this.  I'd love to have a close-up of that car.

I also like the one behind and right of the cab of 507, with dome platforms on all sides and ends of the dome.  There are a few like that in the ACF book.

Also, that triple to far right.....

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 9:57 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] OMI 1930-built double dome tank car

Hi Elden and List Members,
 
Elden wrote: "No one has ever done the research on the CISX fleet, I know of.  And I've had people tell me their fleet did not contain cars like these.  Really?  Then what are we looking at in this pic?"
 
Perhaps I'm the only one who does not know what corporate entity the reporting marks CISX correspond to, or perhaps not. I'll take a stupid wild-a** guess - since the image Elden referenced is on the Union Railroad, meaning the Pittsburgh PA area, is it Carnegie Illinois Steel maybe?
 
Thanks in advance
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Gatwood, Elden J SAD <mailto:elden.j.gatwood@...>
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2019 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] OMI 1930-built double dome tank car


To add;

I think we also take for gospel the belief that another's opinion is more than that;  it is gospel.  Ehhhh, not so much. I was told many, many things as gospel, on PRR freight cars, while I was doing the research, that turned out to be untrue.  There are still people I know who swear by stories or "facts", that are not factual.

NO ONE knows the entire picture on freight cars.  NO ONE.  There were certainly more tank cars produced than anyone knows of, for which no photos exist, and variations were rife.  I continue to find photos of cars I have never seen before (see attached).  No one has ever done the research on the CISX fleet, I know of.  And I've had people tell me their fleet did not contain cars like these.  Really?  Then what are we looking at in this pic?  And what is that car attached to 507?  "It didn't exist".

And, both Greg and I saw that tank car in SoCentral LA that was the living embodiment of the large-dome Tichy car, and I stand by its use because I saw it.  And it IS a great freight car kit, too!

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>  [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] OMI 1930-built double dome tank car


And Overland was working in a time period when we were ALL learning about the incredible diversity of freight cars, led by modelers like Hendrickson and Nehrich and many others who sparked the whole RPM movement. So naturally Overland (and the other importers) made a lot of "mistakes" (I can think of some real howlers from Precision Scale) and often didn't reveal very much about the prototypes for their models (if indeed there was one). It was an 'era' of the model industry, and that time has passed at least for hand made brass models.

I take it with a grain of salt. An interesting looking, well made brass tank car that is realistically (if not "accurately") painted and lettered is always welcome in a train of mine... Many people hate Tichy tank cars because they're not right.
I love them because they are among the finest examples of styrene freight car kit design.

Tim O'Connor





On 11/4/2019 6:47 PM, WILLIAM PARDIE wrote:


Overland produced many fine pieces of rolling stock many of which I am proud to have in my collection.  Some of their tank cars gave me reason to question them.  They produced a three dome model which years ago I finished as a ULTX car.
I was pleased with the model until several years ago when I purchased a Tangent three dome car.  The Tangent car looked like an N scale model next to the Overland car.  I found some drawings in Mailine Modeler which were smaller than the Overland car.


I also had a problem with their 10,000 gallon car which had a rather large platform on each end of the car.  Searched and searched but none found a prototype photo of this car.  Again Mainline modeler had a drawing that exactly matched the
Overland car.  Possibly Overland used this drawing in producing the car.


My only other disappointment was a Texas & Pacific caboose which was 6' too short.  This car was replaced with a Hallmark model that was correct.


These disappointments are avery small percentage of the many fine models that they produced.  I recently rounded out my collection with the purchase of an Overland E-1 diesel originally done for the City Of San Francisco.  Overland also produced the version that SP converted to the Daylight scheme with the big number boards. Very pleased with this model.


Bill Pardie






Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: Tony Thompson <tony@... <mailto:tony@...> > <mailto:tony@...
Date: 11/4/19 1:20 PM (GMT-10:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>  <mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] OMI 1930-built double dome tank car


Bruce Smith wrote:



I was quoting the man… I can find no subsequent change of that sentiment, and it is clear from Richard’s comments that he was not involved in the design of this car.



     You are right that Richard had nothing to do with model design and was less than happy about what eventually came from OMI.
      At one point he pulled out his prints of all the photos he had sent to OMI. I had a few of those cars, and he had others, which we then looked at. I don't have any doubts of his connection as at least a source of info for OMI.



Tony Thompson
tony@... <mailto:tony@...>  <mailto:tony@...>







--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts










Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] OMI 1930-built double dome tank car

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Claus;

Looking at: A tank farm FULL of 103's....

The twins look like ACF-built 4-course ICC 103 8ks with dome platforms, quad spaced tank bands, and single raised dome vents. Carmer cut levers! I like the unusual clean-out arrangement on the end. I suppose you unbolted it and swung it away on that hinge. Look like a kit-bash of a Tichy kit?

Yes, Carnegie-Illinois Steel. USS Clairton By-Products plant tank farm. This is at Clairton, PA (actually Wilson), upriver from Pgh on west bank of the Mon.

This plant produced things like benzol, xylol, toluol, and of course other coal tar by-products like cresols ( think creosote), plus the clean-outs, make me think these are tar cars.

The car coupled to 507, looks like an acid car, 103B, maybe, with those appliances up top. That dome is really unusual. I just have never seen one like this. I'd love to have a close-up of that car.

I also like the one behind and right of the cab of 507, with dome platforms on all sides and ends of the dome. There are a few like that in the ACF book.

Also, that triple to far right.....

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 9:57 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] OMI 1930-built double dome tank car

Hi Elden and List Members,

Elden wrote: "No one has ever done the research on the CISX fleet, I know of. And I've had people tell me their fleet did not contain cars like these. Really? Then what are we looking at in this pic?"

Perhaps I'm the only one who does not know what corporate entity the reporting marks CISX correspond to, or perhaps not. I'll take a stupid wild-a** guess - since the image Elden referenced is on the Union Railroad, meaning the Pittsburgh PA area, is it Carnegie Illinois Steel maybe?

Thanks in advance

Claus Schlund



----- Original Message -----
From: Gatwood, Elden J SAD <mailto:elden.j.gatwood@...>
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2019 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] OMI 1930-built double dome tank car


To add;

I think we also take for gospel the belief that another's opinion is more than that; it is gospel. Ehhhh, not so much. I was told many, many things as gospel, on PRR freight cars, while I was doing the research, that turned out to be untrue. There are still people I know who swear by stories or "facts", that are not factual.

NO ONE knows the entire picture on freight cars. NO ONE. There were certainly more tank cars produced than anyone knows of, for which no photos exist, and variations were rife. I continue to find photos of cars I have never seen before (see attached). No one has ever done the research on the CISX fleet, I know of. And I've had people tell me their fleet did not contain cars like these. Really? Then what are we looking at in this pic? And what is that car attached to 507? "It didn't exist".

And, both Greg and I saw that tank car in SoCentral LA that was the living embodiment of the large-dome Tichy car, and I stand by its use because I saw it. And it IS a great freight car kit, too!

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] OMI 1930-built double dome tank car


And Overland was working in a time period when we were ALL learning about the incredible diversity of freight cars, led by modelers like Hendrickson and Nehrich and many others who sparked the whole RPM movement. So naturally Overland (and the other importers) made a lot of "mistakes" (I can think of some real howlers from Precision Scale) and often didn't reveal very much about the prototypes for their models (if indeed there was one). It was an 'era' of the model industry, and that time has passed at least for hand made brass models.

I take it with a grain of salt. An interesting looking, well made brass tank car that is realistically (if not "accurately") painted and lettered is always welcome in a train of mine... Many people hate Tichy tank cars because they're not right.
I love them because they are among the finest examples of styrene freight car kit design.

Tim O'Connor





On 11/4/2019 6:47 PM, WILLIAM PARDIE wrote:


Overland produced many fine pieces of rolling stock many of which I am proud to have in my collection. Some of their tank cars gave me reason to question them. They produced a three dome model which years ago I finished as a ULTX car.
I was pleased with the model until several years ago when I purchased a Tangent three dome car. The Tangent car looked like an N scale model next to the Overland car. I found some drawings in Mailine Modeler which were smaller than the Overland car.


I also had a problem with their 10,000 gallon car which had a rather large platform on each end of the car. Searched and searched but none found a prototype photo of this car. Again Mainline modeler had a drawing that exactly matched the
Overland car. Possibly Overland used this drawing in producing the car.


My only other disappointment was a Texas & Pacific caboose which was 6' too short. This car was replaced with a Hallmark model that was correct.


These disappointments are avery small percentage of the many fine models that they produced. I recently rounded out my collection with the purchase of an Overland E-1 diesel originally done for the City Of San Francisco. Overland also produced the version that SP converted to the Daylight scheme with the big number boards. Very pleased with this model.


Bill Pardie






Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: Tony Thompson <tony@... <mailto:tony@...> > <mailto:tony@...>
Date: 11/4/19 1:20 PM (GMT-10:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> <mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] OMI 1930-built double dome tank car


Bruce Smith wrote:



I was quoting the man… I can find no subsequent change of that sentiment, and it is clear from Richard’s comments that he was not involved in the design of this car.



You are right that Richard had nothing to do with model design and was less than happy about what eventually came from OMI.
At one point he pulled out his prints of all the photos he had sent to OMI. I had a few of those cars, and he had others, which we then looked at. I don't have any doubts of his connection as at least a source of info for OMI.



Tony Thompson
tony@... <mailto:tony@...> <mailto:tony@...>







--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] OMI 1930-built double dome tank car

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Elden and List Members,
 
Elden wrote: "No one has ever done the research on the CISX fleet, I know of.  And I've had people tell me their fleet did not contain cars like these.  Really?  Then what are we looking at in this pic?"
 
Perhaps I'm the only one who does not know what corporate entity the reporting marks CISX correspond to, or perhaps not. I'll take a stupid wild-a** guess - since the image Elden referenced is on the Union Railroad, meaning the Pittsburgh PA area, is it Carnegie Illinois Steel maybe?
 
Thanks in advance
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2019 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] OMI 1930-built double dome tank car

To add;

I think we also take for gospel the belief that another's opinion is more than that;  it is gospel.  Ehhhh, not so much. I was told many, many things as gospel, on PRR freight cars, while I was doing the research, that turned out to be untrue.  There are still people I know who swear by stories or "facts", that are not factual.

NO ONE knows the entire picture on freight cars.  NO ONE.  There were certainly more tank cars produced than anyone knows of, for which no photos exist, and variations were rife.  I continue to find photos of cars I have never seen before (see attached).  No one has ever done the research on the CISX fleet, I know of.  And I've had people tell me their fleet did not contain cars like these.  Really?  Then what are we looking at in this pic?  And what is that car attached to 507?  "It didn't exist".

And, both Greg and I saw that tank car in SoCentral LA that was the living embodiment of the large-dome Tichy car, and I stand by its use because I saw it.  And it IS a great freight car kit, too!

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 1:00 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] OMI 1930-built double dome tank car


And Overland was working in a time period when we were ALL learning about the incredible diversity of freight cars, led by modelers like Hendrickson and Nehrich and many others who sparked the whole RPM movement. So naturally Overland (and the other importers) made a lot of "mistakes" (I can think of some real howlers from Precision Scale) and often didn't reveal very much about the prototypes for their models (if indeed there was one). It was an 'era' of the model industry, and that time has passed at least for hand made brass models.

I take it with a grain of salt. An interesting looking, well made brass tank car that is realistically (if not "accurately") painted and lettered is always welcome in a train of mine... Many people hate Tichy tank cars because they're not right.
I love them because they are among the finest examples of styrene freight car kit design.

Tim O'Connor





On 11/4/2019 6:47 PM, WILLIAM PARDIE wrote:


Overland produced many fine pieces of rolling stock many of which I am proud to have in my collection.  Some of their tank cars gave me reason to question them.  They produced a three dome model which years ago I finished as a ULTX car.
I was pleased with the model until several years ago when I purchased a Tangent three dome car.  The Tangent car looked like an N scale model next to the Overland car.  I found some drawings in Mailine Modeler which were smaller than the Overland car.


I also had a problem with their 10,000 gallon car which had a rather large platform on each end of the car.  Searched and searched but none found a prototype photo of this car.  Again Mainline modeler had a drawing that exactly matched the
Overland car.  Possibly Overland used this drawing in producing the car.


My only other disappointment was a Texas & Pacific caboose which was 6' too short.  This car was replaced with a Hallmark model that was correct.


These disappointments are avery small percentage of the many fine models that they produced.  I recently rounded out my collection with the purchase of an Overland E-1 diesel originally done for the City Of San Francisco.  Overland also produced the version that SP converted to the Daylight scheme with the big number boards. Very pleased with this model.


Bill Pardie






Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: Tony Thompson <tony@...> <mailto:tony@...
Date: 11/4/19 1:20 PM (GMT-10:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] OMI 1930-built double dome tank car


Bruce Smith wrote:



I was quoting the man… I can find no subsequent change of that sentiment, and it is clear from Richard’s comments that he was not involved in the design of this car.



     You are right that Richard had nothing to do with model design and was less than happy about what eventually came from OMI.
      At one point he pulled out his prints of all the photos he had sent to OMI. I had a few of those cars, and he had others, which we then looked at. I don't have any doubts of his connection as at least a source of info for OMI.



Tony Thompson
tony@... <mailto:tony@...>







--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts




cars on ebay

Clark Propst
 

It’s house cleaning time again! Need to make room for kits I plan to build over the winter. Links are to a couple of resin cars I’m offering on eBay,
 
 
 
 
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa

CNW 43959 With Hay Dryer Load

Matt Smith
 

CNW 43959 Flat with hay dryer load, Roanoke, IL 1941 

http://www.idaillinois.org/digital/collection/p16614coll35/id/25221/rec/480
--
Matt Smith
Bloomington, IL

Re: OMI 1930-built GATC 10,000 Gal double dome tank car

Fred Jansz
 
Edited

To all interested,

When pictured by H.A. Gerritsen in ca. 1988, NIPX 8 was a 'toxic waste' car serving as such on the NIPCO property, Michigan City, Indiana. Where the other two cars went to after their last appearance in the 1936 ORER, is a mystery, but I guess back into the GATX pool until retirement at some date.
Capy is 10000
LT WT 60800
CH 7-57
Asked Brian Marsh if he could check the archives for the original pics made by Mr. Gerritsen. Would like to see what's on the domes so I can make some decals for them (probably TANK A and tech specs and TANK B and tech specs).

NB: if the car was built in 1930 by GATC and photographed in 1988, it was operating and 'kind of lost' in my year 1950, probably illegally dumping it's toxic waste in the beautiful Feather River on my future layout....
I'm so sorry, but that's how it was in 1950 (on my layout).

cheers, Fred Jansz

PS, also own the single dome version of the OMI GATX 30 10K Gals insulated car.
This one will be painted & lettered for Western Asphalt.

Re: Gould/Tichy Tank Car (was Re: [RealSTMFC] OMI 1930-built double dome tank car)

Tony Thompson
 

So Tony, you're accusing me of making it up?
Not at all, I'm suggesting maybe you don't know as much of what happened as you think you do.

Tony

Re: Gould/Tichy Tank Car (was Re: [RealSTMFC] OMI 1930-built double dome tank car)

brianleppert@att.net
 

So Tony, you're accusing me of making it up?

Brian Leppert

Re: Gould/Tichy Tank Car (was Re: [RealSTMFC] OMI 1930-built double dome tank car)

Tony Thompson
 

Because Bill wasn't brushing off offers because he never got any.
So you're stating that Richard made it up? Of all his character traits, that is about the last thing I would imagine. He sometimes dramatized events, but I can't recall any imaginary ones.

Tony

Re: Gould/Tichy Tank Car (was Re: [RealSTMFC] OMI 1930-built double dome tank car)

brianleppert@att.net
 

Because Bill wasn't brushing off offers because he never got any.

Brian Leppert