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a view of an O&W 36ft double sheathed boxcar on the LIRR
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
In the image linked below, we get a view of an
O&W 36ft double sheathed boxcar on the LIRR, taken in 1905.
A detailed view is available at the link
below...
Image metadata can be found at the linkl
below...
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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Re: Nalco Weed Sprayer and tank cars
Paul Doggett
That would make an interesting train.
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Paul Doggett
On 11 Nov 2019, at 15:44, BRIAN PAUL EHNI <bpehni@...> wrote:
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Re: Nalco Weed Sprayer and tank cars
Attached are the photos of NALCO cars I have found online (besides the ones you and Steve posted).
Thanks!
From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...>
According to a 1966 ORER, Nalco owned 18 such cars numbered 101, 103-105 and 108-121. Here is a shot I found of 120 working on the Rock Island in Peoria.
The tank cars appear to be a mix in both shots including a UTLX car behind 120.
It is not clear when these cars were first used, but the NALCO name apparently arrived circa 1959 shortened from National Aluminite Company, according to Wikipedia.
Steve Hile
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Doug Forbes I am looking for help in potentially modeling this Nalco weed sprayer train that was running on the C&EI in 1959 as photographed by J. Parker Lamb. I am looking for ideas on a good HO scale starting box car to modify into the weed sprayer as well as who might have owned the tank cars (I think Nalco owned them from other research I found) what would be good starting models for them as well. I'm looking for any guesses or hunches or commentary you might have.
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Re: ERDX Reefers
Thanks Ben.
Doug Harding www.iowacentralrr.org
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Benjamin Hom
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2019 8:02 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ERDX Reefers
Doug Harding wrote:
Source is Terry Link's website.
ERDX 11000-11049, rebuilt 1958 at DSI from Lot 734-B boxcars.
Ben Hom
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Re: ERDX Reefers
Benjamin Hom
Doug Harding wrote: "I have this drawing, saved as ERDX 11000-11049. However nothing on the drawing says it is ERDX, so cannot confirm. Nor do I know the source, but suspect it came via this last as we have discussed ERDX cars before." Source is Terry Link's website. ERDX 11000-11049, rebuilt 1958 at DSI from Lot 734-B boxcars. Ben Hom
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Re: ERDX Reefers
I have this drawing, saved as ERDX 11000-11049. However nothing on the drawing says it is ERDX, so cannot confirm. Nor do I know the source, but suspect it came via this last as we have discussed ERDX cars before.
Doug Harding www.iowacentralrr.org
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Todd Sullivan via Groups.Io
Hi Tim,
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Re: Sanborn Fire Insurance Maps: Milwaukee In 1910
Jake Schaible
Bob, If you like that, you'll love what the LoC is doing. They claim to have some 25,000 now, but report they are targeting to put some 500,000 Sanborn maps, high rez digitized / enhanced and posted free online in 2020. https://www.loc.gov/item/prn-17-074/sanborn-fire-insurance-maps-now-online/2017-05-25/ https://www.loc.gov/collections/sanborn-maps/about-this-collection/
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Re: Nalco Weed Sprayer and tank cars
According to a 1966 ORER, Nalco owned 18 such cars numbered
101, 103-105 and 108-121. Here is a shot I found of 120 working on the
Rock Island in Peoria.
The tank cars appear to be a mix in both shots including a
UTLX car behind 120.
It is not clear when these cars were first used, but the NALCO
name apparently arrived circa 1959 shortened from National Aluminite Company,
according to Wikipedia.
Steve Hile
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Doug Forbes Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:13 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] Nalco Weed Sprayer and tank cars Thanks to all!
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Re: ERDX Reefers
Todd Sullivan
Hi Tim,
This is a very interesting photo, but I'm not sure it represents the ERDX cars in my 1952 ORER. The overall length of the 1952 ERDX 9000 series was 42'-6", and all the other MDT owned cars were 41'-6", and the 9000 series had a 2601 cu.ft. capacity while most other MDT cars had capacities from 1900 cu.ft. to around 2000 cu.ft. The 1952 9000 series also is clearly listed as an AAR Mech. Designation RB, and they have a Note F that states, "Cars numbered E.R.D.X. 9000 to 9999 and M.D.T. 9955 and 9962 have sliding doors 5 ft. wide and 7 ft. high." All other MDT owned cars had 4 ft. wide by 6 ft. and a few inches high. Also, there were only 38 cars in the 9000-9999 series and apparently only 2 in the 9955-9962 series. I think the ERDX 9772 in your photo is an earlier car, and it has ice hatches on both end of the roof and its lettering states "Ventilated Refrigerator". I don''t see a built date in photo, but the capacity is clearly 2086 cu.ft. and the I.L. is 33ft. 11 in. which doesn't match anything in my 1952 ORER (MDT, FGEX, etc.). I wish I had my Westerfield 1943 ORER to see if there were other cars of this size as that date, but it's in storage. Curiouser and curioser. Does anyone else have anything to contribute? Todd Sullivan
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Nalco Weed Sprayer and tank cars
Doug Forbes
I am looking for help in potentially modeling this Nalco weed sprayer train that was running on the C&EI in 1959 as photographed by J. Parker Lamb. I am looking for ideas on a good HO scale starting box car to modify into the weed sprayer as well as who might have owned the tank cars (I think Nalco owned them from other research I found) what would be good starting models for them as well. I'm looking for any guesses or hunches or commentary you might have.
Thanks to all!
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Re: Sanborn Fire Insurance Maps: Milwaukee In 1910
John Barry
Bob, The other volumes are there too! Just change the # at the end of your link from 1 to 2 through 8. John Barry ATSF North Bay Lines Golden Gates & Fast Freights Lovettsville, VA 707-490-9696 PO Box 44736 Washington, DC 20026-4736
On Sunday, November 10, 2019, 09:44:43 PM EST, Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:
Sanborn Fire Insurance Maps: Milwaukee In 1910 I stumbled across this link: https://liblamp.uwm.edu/sanborn-pdf/Milwaukee1910Volume1.pdf There are 198 pages IN COLOR with some pages showing railroad lines, facilities and customers. I'm told these maps are generally accurate but may not be accurate as to specific details. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Help finding photos of 100-599 NRC express refrigerator cars.
One more that I have.
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Help finding photos of 100-599 NRC express refrigerator cars.
I'm looking for better pictures of NRC express refrigerators in 100-599 series. There were 427 cars in service in 1953. I have several poor or distant shots of the cars, but would like to see some of the details better along the side sill and on the ends.
I think there was a set of plans in one of the old Model Railroader Cyclopedia, maybe the 1940 edition. Any help would be appreciated. The BLM and Walthers express reefers appear similar, except for having ladders instead of grab irons. Aaron Gjermundson
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Sanborn Fire Insurance Maps: Milwaukee In 1910
Sanborn Fire Insurance Maps: Milwaukee In 1910 I stumbled across this link: https://liblamp.uwm.edu/sanborn-pdf/Milwaukee1910Volume1.pdf There are 198 pages IN COLOR with some pages showing railroad lines, facilities and customers. I'm told these maps are generally accurate but may not be accurate as to specific details. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: ERDX Reefers
Armand Premo
Thank you Tony,Todd and Tim,Now to find a close model and decals.Any suggestions ? Armand Premo 
On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 5:09 PM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
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Re: DL&W gondola with a load of wheels - October 1932
Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
I noticed those "protective shoes" as well, John, which I presume were to help keep the boom itself from contacting the catenary within the Lackawanna's commuter territory. Cordially, Don Valentine
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Re: Southern Railroad drop bottom gondola question
George Eichelberger
Black was the standard body color for open top cars until the standard was changed to Southern freight car brown in 1959/60. Black cars would have all be stenciled with Roman style lettering until that was changed slightly later, but still about 1960.
The new Tangent hopper correctly shows Roman lettering on a red car as was done until the color change caught up with the lettering. For a bit of trivia, the first ”Big John” covered hoppers were stenciled with Roman lettering. Most of the cars sat in storage while the 100-ton rate case was going through the courts. When Southern won the (SCOTUS) case and the cars were placed in service, their serif style lettering was changed to the new block style. Ike
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Re: Southern Railroad drop bottom gondola question
yep - until they weren't any more. kinda depends on WHEN. In 1957=1958 a large number of oxide red hoppers were delivered. https://www.tangentscalemodels.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/SOU-281526-1000.jpg
On 11/9/2019 5:15 PM, Bill Welch wrote:
Southern open top cars were Black. --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: ERDX Reefers
ERDX reefer (attached)
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Later on there were at least two groups of insulated box cars.
On 11/9/2019 8:23 PM, Todd Sullivan via Groups.Io wrote:
Armand, --
*Tim O'Connor* *Sterling, Massachusetts*
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Re: For Those Building the 2019 Chicagoland Gift Kit. . .
Bill Welch
Here is my underframe as requested. This is from the Sunshine instructions.
Bill Welch
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