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PRR 91641, an X29 class boxcar with center bar lettering in 1926

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
We get a look at PRR 91641, an X29 class boxcar with center bar lettering in 1926
 
A detailed view is available at the link below...
 
 
Image metadata can be found at the link below...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund


Re: view of the LIRR/PRR yard at Sunnyside, NY

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Ted,
 
Good set of eyes you have! I had not noticed that.
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2019 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] view of the LIRR/PRR yard at Sunnyside, NY

Hello,

The image has to be 1940 or later, as there is a Milw Rd ribside double door XA hiding in the back.

Ted Schnepf
126 Will Scarlet,
Elgin, Ill. 60120


847=697-5353


On Monday, November 11, 2019, 10:16:32 AM CST, Claus Schlund \(HGM\) <claus@...> wrote:


Hi List Members,
 
In the image linked below, we get a nice view of the LIRR/PRR yard at Sunnyside, NY. I could wish for it to be a bit sharper in terms of focus, but still an nice view. While web site claims this to be 1900/1905, it is clearly much later, likely during the 1930s in my estimate.
 
Lots of things to see - LV twin hoppers, Armour Refrigerator lines reefer, CG ventilated boxcar, just for starters!
 
A detailed view is available at the link below...
 
 
Image metadata can be found at the link below...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 

 


Re: view of the LIRR/PRR yard at Sunnyside, NY

O Fenton Wells
 

Also saw a Southern 1937 ARA car and a C of G vent car.  For you y'all road gents.
Fenton

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 11:27 AM Ted Schnepf <railsunl@...> wrote:
Hello,

The image has to be 1940 or later, as there is a Milw Rd ribside double door XA hiding in the back.

Ted Schnepf
126 Will Scarlet,
Elgin, Ill. 60120


847=697-5353


On Monday, November 11, 2019, 10:16:32 AM CST, Claus Schlund \(HGM\) <claus@...> wrote:


Hi List Members,
 
In the image linked below, we get a nice view of the LIRR/PRR yard at Sunnyside, NY. I could wish for it to be a bit sharper in terms of focus, but still an nice view. While web site claims this to be 1900/1905, it is clearly much later, likely during the 1930s in my estimate.
 
Lots of things to see - LV twin hoppers, Armour Refrigerator lines reefer, CG ventilated boxcar, just for starters!
 
A detailed view is available at the link below...
 
 
Image metadata can be found at the link below...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 

 



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: view of the LIRR/PRR yard at Sunnyside, NY

Ted Schnepf
 

Hello,

The image has to be 1940 or later, as there is a Milw Rd ribside double door XA hiding in the back.

Ted Schnepf
126 Will Scarlet,
Elgin, Ill. 60120


847=697-5353


On Monday, November 11, 2019, 10:16:32 AM CST, Claus Schlund \(HGM\) <claus@...> wrote:


Hi List Members,
 
In the image linked below, we get a nice view of the LIRR/PRR yard at Sunnyside, NY. I could wish for it to be a bit sharper in terms of focus, but still an nice view. While web site claims this to be 1900/1905, it is clearly much later, likely during the 1930s in my estimate.
 
Lots of things to see - LV twin hoppers, Armour Refrigerator lines reefer, CG ventilated boxcar, just for starters!
 
A detailed view is available at the link below...
 
 
Image metadata can be found at the link below...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 

 


Chicago and Alton boxcar C&A 38810 in 1926

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
In the image linked below, we get a look at the Chicago and Alton boxcar C&A 38810 in 1926.
 
A detailed view is available at the link below...
 
 
Image metadata can be found at the link below...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund


view of the LIRR/PRR yard at Sunnyside, NY

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
In the image linked below, we get a nice view of the LIRR/PRR yard at Sunnyside, NY. I could wish for it to be a bit sharper in terms of focus, but still an nice view. While web site claims this to be 1900/1905, it is clearly much later, likely during the 1930s in my estimate.
 
Lots of things to see - LV twin hoppers, Armour Refrigerator lines reefer, CG ventilated boxcar, just for starters!
 
A detailed view is available at the link below...
 
 
Image metadata can be found at the link below...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 

 


a view of an O&W 36ft double sheathed boxcar on the LIRR

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
In the image linked below, we get a view of an O&W 36ft double sheathed boxcar on the LIRR, taken in 1905.
 
A detailed view is available at the link below...
 
 
Image metadata can be found at the linkl below...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund


Re: Nalco Weed Sprayer and tank cars

Paul Doggett
 

That would make an interesting train.

Paul Doggett 


On 11 Nov 2019, at 15:44, BRIAN PAUL EHNI <bpehni@...> wrote:



Attached are the photos of NALCO cars I have found online (besides the ones you and Steve posted).

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Monday, November 11, 2019 at 12:11 AM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Nalco Weed Sprayer and tank cars

 

According to a 1966 ORER, Nalco owned 18 such cars numbered 101, 103-105 and 108-121.  Here is a shot I found of 120 working on the Rock Island in Peoria.

 

The tank cars appear to be a mix in both shots including a UTLX car behind 120.

 

It is not clear when these cars were first used, but the NALCO name apparently arrived circa 1959 shortened from National Aluminite Company, according to Wikipedia.

 

Steve Hile

 


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Doug Forbes
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:13 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Nalco Weed Sprayer and tank cars

I am looking for help in potentially modeling this Nalco weed sprayer train that was running on the C&EI in 1959 as photographed by J. Parker Lamb.  I am looking for ideas on a good HO scale starting box car to modify into the weed sprayer as well as who might have owned the tank cars (I think Nalco owned them from other research I found) what would be good starting models for them as well.  I'm looking for any guesses or hunches or commentary you might have.  
Thanks to all!

Attachments:


Re: Nalco Weed Sprayer and tank cars

BRIAN PAUL EHNI
 

Attached are the photos of NALCO cars I have found online (besides the ones you and Steve posted).

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Monday, November 11, 2019 at 12:11 AM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Nalco Weed Sprayer and tank cars

 

According to a 1966 ORER, Nalco owned 18 such cars numbered 101, 103-105 and 108-121.  Here is a shot I found of 120 working on the Rock Island in Peoria.

 

The tank cars appear to be a mix in both shots including a UTLX car behind 120.

 

It is not clear when these cars were first used, but the NALCO name apparently arrived circa 1959 shortened from National Aluminite Company, according to Wikipedia.

 

Steve Hile

 


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Doug Forbes
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:13 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Nalco Weed Sprayer and tank cars

I am looking for help in potentially modeling this Nalco weed sprayer train that was running on the C&EI in 1959 as photographed by J. Parker Lamb.  I am looking for ideas on a good HO scale starting box car to modify into the weed sprayer as well as who might have owned the tank cars (I think Nalco owned them from other research I found) what would be good starting models for them as well.  I'm looking for any guesses or hunches or commentary you might have.  
Thanks to all!


Re: ERDX Reefers

Douglas Harding
 

Thanks Ben.

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Benjamin Hom
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2019 8:02 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ERDX Reefers

 

Doug Harding wrote:
"I have this drawing, saved as ERDX 11000-11049. However nothing on the drawing says it is ERDX, so cannot confirm. Nor do I know the source, but suspect it came via this last as we have discussed ERDX cars before."

 

Source is Terry Link's website.

 

ERDX 11000-11049, rebuilt 1958 at DSI from Lot 734-B boxcars.

 

 

Ben Hom

 


Re: ERDX Reefers

Benjamin Hom
 

Doug Harding wrote:
"I have this drawing, saved as ERDX 11000-11049. However nothing on the drawing says it is ERDX, so cannot confirm. Nor do I know the source, but suspect it came via this last as we have discussed ERDX cars before."

Source is Terry Link's website.

ERDX 11000-11049, rebuilt 1958 at DSI from Lot 734-B boxcars.


Ben Hom
 


Re: ERDX Reefers

Douglas Harding
 

I  have this drawing, saved as ERDX 11000-11049. However nothing on the drawing says it is ERDX, so cannot confirm. Nor do I know the source, but suspect it came via this last as we have discussed ERDX cars before.

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Todd Sullivan via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2019 12:01 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ERDX Reefers

 

Hi Tim,

This is a very interesting photo, but I'm not sure it represents the ERDX cars in my 1952 ORER.  The overall length of the 1952 ERDX 9000 series was 42'-6", and all the other MDT owned cars were 41'-6", and the 9000 series had a 2601 cu.ft. capacity while most other MDT cars had capacities from 1900 cu.ft. to around 2000 cu.ft.  The 1952 9000 series also is clearly listed as an AAR Mech. Designation RB, and they have a Note F that states, "Cars numbered E.R.D.X. 9000 to 9999 and M.D.T. 9955 and 9962 have sliding doors 5 ft. wide and 7 ft. high."  All other MDT owned cars had 4 ft. wide by 6 ft. and a few inches high.  Also, there were only 38 cars in the 9000-9999 series and apparently only 2 in the 9955-9962 series.

I think the ERDX 9772 in your photo is an earlier car, and it has ice hatches on both end of the roof and its lettering states "Ventilated Refrigerator".  I don''t see a built date in photo, but the capacity is clearly 2086 cu.ft. and the I.L. is 33ft. 11 in. which doesn't match anything in my 1952 ORER (MDT, FGEX, etc.).  I wish I had my Westerfield 1943 ORER to see if there were other cars of this size as that date, but it's in storage.  

Curiouser and curioser.  Does anyone else have anything to contribute?

Todd Sullivan


Re: Sanborn Fire Insurance Maps: Milwaukee In 1910

Jake Schaible
 

Bob,

If you like that, you'll love what the LoC is doing.  They claim to have some 25,000 now, but report they are targeting to put some 500,000 Sanborn maps, high rez digitized / enhanced and posted free online in 2020.  

https://www.loc.gov/item/prn-17-074/sanborn-fire-insurance-maps-now-online/2017-05-25/

https://www.loc.gov/collections/sanborn-maps/about-this-collection/


Re: Nalco Weed Sprayer and tank cars

Steve and Barb Hile
 

According to a 1966 ORER, Nalco owned 18 such cars numbered 101, 103-105 and 108-121.  Here is a shot I found of 120 working on the Rock Island in Peoria.
 
The tank cars appear to be a mix in both shots including a UTLX car behind 120.
 
It is not clear when these cars were first used, but the NALCO name apparently arrived circa 1959 shortened from National Aluminite Company, according to Wikipedia.
 
Steve Hile



From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Doug Forbes
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:13 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Nalco Weed Sprayer and tank cars

I am looking for help in potentially modeling this Nalco weed sprayer train that was running on the C&EI in 1959 as photographed by J. Parker Lamb.  I am looking for ideas on a good HO scale starting box car to modify into the weed sprayer as well as who might have owned the tank cars (I think Nalco owned them from other research I found) what would be good starting models for them as well.  I'm looking for any guesses or hunches or commentary you might have.  
Thanks to all!


Re: ERDX Reefers

Todd Sullivan
 

Hi Tim,

This is a very interesting photo, but I'm not sure it represents the ERDX cars in my 1952 ORER.  The overall length of the 1952 ERDX 9000 series was 42'-6", and all the other MDT owned cars were 41'-6", and the 9000 series had a 2601 cu.ft. capacity while most other MDT cars had capacities from 1900 cu.ft. to around 2000 cu.ft.  The 1952 9000 series also is clearly listed as an AAR Mech. Designation RB, and they have a Note F that states, "Cars numbered E.R.D.X. 9000 to 9999 and M.D.T. 9955 and 9962 have sliding doors 5 ft. wide and 7 ft. high."  All other MDT owned cars had 4 ft. wide by 6 ft. and a few inches high.  Also, there were only 38 cars in the 9000-9999 series and apparently only 2 in the 9955-9962 series.

I think the ERDX 9772 in your photo is an earlier car, and it has ice hatches on both end of the roof and its lettering states "Ventilated Refrigerator".  I don''t see a built date in photo, but the capacity is clearly 2086 cu.ft. and the I.L. is 33ft. 11 in. which doesn't match anything in my 1952 ORER (MDT, FGEX, etc.).  I wish I had my Westerfield 1943 ORER to see if there were other cars of this size as that date, but it's in storage.  

Curiouser and curioser.  Does anyone else have anything to contribute?

Todd Sullivan


Nalco Weed Sprayer and tank cars

Doug Forbes
 

I am looking for help in potentially modeling this Nalco weed sprayer train that was running on the C&EI in 1959 as photographed by J. Parker Lamb.  I am looking for ideas on a good HO scale starting box car to modify into the weed sprayer as well as who might have owned the tank cars (I think Nalco owned them from other research I found) what would be good starting models for them as well.  I'm looking for any guesses or hunches or commentary you might have.  
Thanks to all!


Re: Sanborn Fire Insurance Maps: Milwaukee In 1910

John Barry
 

Bob,

The other volumes are there too!  Just change the # at the end of your link from 1 to 2 through 8.

John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736


On Sunday, November 10, 2019, 09:44:43 PM EST, Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:


Sanborn Fire Insurance Maps: Milwaukee In 1910

I stumbled across this link:

https://liblamp.uwm.edu/sanborn-pdf/Milwaukee1910Volume1.pdf

There are 198 pages IN COLOR with some pages showing railroad lines, facilities and customers. I'm told these maps are generally accurate but may not be accurate as to specific details.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Help finding photos of 100-599 NRC express refrigerator cars.

npin53
 

One more that I have. 


Help finding photos of 100-599 NRC express refrigerator cars.

npin53
 
Edited

I'm looking for better pictures of NRC express refrigerators in 100-599 series. There were 427 cars in service in 1953. I have several poor or distant shots of the cars, but would like to see some of the details better along the side sill and on the ends.

I think there was a set of plans in one of the old Model Railroader Cyclopedia, maybe the 1940 edition.

Any help would be appreciated.

The BLM and Walthers express reefers appear similar, except for having ladders instead of grab irons.

Aaron Gjermundson


Sanborn Fire Insurance Maps: Milwaukee In 1910

Bob Chaparro
 

Sanborn Fire Insurance Maps: Milwaukee In 1910

I stumbled across this link:

https://liblamp.uwm.edu/sanborn-pdf/Milwaukee1910Volume1.pdf

There are 198 pages IN COLOR with some pages showing railroad lines, facilities and customers. I'm told these maps are generally accurate but may not be accurate as to specific details.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA