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Re: ATSF Sk-O Stock Car Air Reservoir Position

Nelson Moyer
 

Thanks, Bill. I have Sandifer’s book, and other stock cars had transverse air reservoirs, so I surmised that the Sk-O would also have them. Different roads handled KC to AB brake system conversions differently. The CB&Q mounted all three components on the same side of the center sill on SM-16/18 conversion, and the air reservoir was in line with the center sill. It’s always best to ask, rather than speculate.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of WILLIAM PARDIE
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 4:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ATSF Sk-O Stock Car Air Reservoir Position

 

Nelson they were mounted in a travers orientation.

Very few Santa Fe cars had the reservoir mounted parallel to the center sill.  Most were cars with a Durea underframe.  I believe that the Bx38 war emergency car had the parallel mounting.  I'm not at home right now and can't verify that.

 

Bill Pardie

 

 

 

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From: Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...>

Date: 11/26/19 12:44 PM (GMT-10:00)

Subject: [RealSTMFC] ATSF Sk-O Stock Car Air Reservoir Position

 

I’m building the Westerfield Sk-O kit with AB brakes, and I’d like to know if the air reservoir was mounted in line or transversely. I can’t tell for sure from the right side photo of ATSF 68093.

 

Nelson Moyer


Re: ATSF Sk-O Stock Car Air Reservoir Position

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

Nelson they were mounted in a travers orientation.
Very few Santa Fe cars had the reservoir mounted parallel to the center sill.  Most were cars with a Durea underframe.  I believe that the Bx38 war emergency car had the parallel mounting.  I'm not at home right now and can't verify that.

Bill Pardie



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-------- Original message --------
From: Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...>
Date: 11/26/19 12:44 PM (GMT-10:00)
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] ATSF Sk-O Stock Car Air Reservoir Position

I’m building the Westerfield Sk-O kit with AB brakes, and I’d like to know if the air reservoir was mounted in line or transversely. I can’t tell for sure from the right side photo of ATSF 68093.

 

Nelson Moyer


ATSF Sk-O Stock Car Air Reservoir Position

Nelson Moyer
 

I’m building the Westerfield Sk-O kit with AB brakes, and I’d like to know if the air reservoir was mounted in line or transversely. I can’t tell for sure from the right side photo of ATSF 68093.

 

Nelson Moyer


Re: Lehigh Valley Composite Hoppers

ed_mines
 

Yes.

I found 2 photos of the cars you asked about - 14781 & 14001 - with black diamonds on a lighter colored (freight car red?) background.


Re: Making Dents & Bulges in Plastic Cars - Techniques?

David Allen
 

Folks: The felloe Dan Mitchell mentions is Jeff Eggert. A while ago (October, 2003) Jeff showed his model of C&NW 742149 at a division meet in Two Rivers, WI. It is exquisite. He made new sides and ends of thin ,001 shim brass sections with styrene posts. I have seen a write-up somewhere, but I cannot find it now.

Be well.  Dave Allen


Re: Evolution Of Delaware & Hudson House Cars

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

The ends of the cars in the photo's of the 27001 series are rather unique.  Did these cars also use the standard USRA  end?

Bill Pardie



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From: James Brewer <jim.brewer.3611@...>
Date: 11/26/19 3:13 AM (GMT-10:00)
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Evolution Of Delaware & Hudson House Cars

Bob,

Very interesting; thanks for the pointer.

Jim Brewer

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 1:06 AM Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Evolution Of Delaware & Hudson House Cars

This is a link to an article titled, "Evolution of the 40′ Steam Era House Cars of the Delaware & Hudson" from Matt Forsyth's D&H Penn Division blog:

http://mattforsyth.com/?p=424

There are a number of photos accompanying the article.

Matt is a Proto 48 modeler.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: missouri Pacific DF2 Markings

mopacfirst
 

Steve, those are probably the 'return to' stenciling.  They would be at the extreme left of the car side, butted up against the end of the car above the grabs.  That was the MoPac standard location for this stenciling at the time these cars were built.

To my knowledge, there is no available decal for these.

Ron Merrick


Re: Car Classifications For Loads

Tony Thompson
 

Guy Wilber wrote:

From Coughlin’s ‘Freight Car Distribution and Car Handling in The United States’.  A book anyone with interest in the subject should have a copy of in their library.

     Perfectly stated, Guy. I have had a copy for years and still use it.

Tony Thompson




missouri Pacific DF2 Markings

StephenK
 

I would like to model a Missouri Pacific AAR boxcar in the38525-38574 series.   This car has the "DF2" markings to the upper left of the door.   It also has several lines of small type above and to the left of the reporting marks.   I have checked Microscale, Mask Island, and other to no avail.   Any ideas where I can get the markings for this car?

Steve Kay


Re: Car Classifications For Loads

Greg Martin
 

Guy,  

I agree.

Greg Martin 



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From: "Guy Wilber via Groups.Io" <guycwilber@...>
Date: 11/24/19 11:42 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Car Classifications For Loads

“Does anyone have a list or source I could consult?

Thanks.
Bob Chaparro”_,_ 

From Coughlin’s ‘Freight Car Distribution and Car Handling in The United States’.  A book anyone with interest in the subject should have a copy of in their library.

Guy Wilber
Reno, Nevada






--
Hey Boss,


Somehow I got deleted from this group in late May. I guess someone didn't like me. Jail is a lonely place.

Greg Martin 


Re: Car Classifications For Loads

Lester Breuer
 

Randy, “Thank You” for providing the link to read on line.
Lester Breuer


Re: Evolution Of Delaware & Hudson House Cars

James Brewer
 

Bob,

Very interesting; thanks for the pointer.

Jim Brewer

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 1:06 AM Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Evolution Of Delaware & Hudson House Cars

This is a link to an article titled, "Evolution of the 40′ Steam Era House Cars of the Delaware & Hudson" from Matt Forsyth's D&H Penn Division blog:

http://mattforsyth.com/?p=424

There are a number of photos accompanying the article.

Matt is a Proto 48 modeler.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Evolution Of Delaware & Hudson House Cars

Bob Chaparro
 

Evolution Of Delaware & Hudson House Cars

This is a link to an article titled, "Evolution of the 40′ Steam Era House Cars of the Delaware & Hudson" from Matt Forsyth's D&H Penn Division blog:

http://mattforsyth.com/?p=424

There are a number of photos accompanying the article.

Matt is a Proto 48 modeler.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Erie 78500 series boxcars

Schuyler Larrabee
 

I wrote to Brian that I am sure there were cars with BCR ends and black ends.  Model to a photo.  So now he has a photo to justify his modeling work.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of pennsylvania1954
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 12:27 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Erie 78500 series boxcars

 

I have sent to Brian a photo of 78601 privately. It shows a reweigh date of 3-57 and has a nice, new, shiny paint job so I assume it was painted 3-57, too. It is clear that the ends are the same shade of boxcar red as the sides.
--
Steve Hoxie
Pensacola FL


Re: Making Dents & Bulges in Plastic Cars - Techniques?

radiodial868
 

Aaron, that is one good looking gondola. Is that the Westerfield G22 twin-pak flat-Pack version?  I'm keeping your pictures for reference for when I build mine.
RJ Dial
Burlingame, CA


Re: [External] Re: [RealSTMFC] Making Dents & Bulges in Plastic Cars - Techniques?

naptownprr
 

Your gon looks good, Claus.  I've done something similar with some of my HO gons.


Jim Hunter


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Hi Bob,
 
I've done this in N scale to a gondola by lining the inside of the gon with several layers of heavy duty aluminum foil. Then use a small soldering iron to heat the inside of the gon and, when the plastic is softened by the heat, press to bulge it out a bit. Locate the bulge in the center of the chosen side panels, since that is typically where the prototype is most likely to have a bulge. I also dinged the top chord, simulating damage due to dropped loads or dropped pieces of scrap.
 
You can see the results below - the gon looks like it is on its last legs! Hopefully the link works...
 
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
 
 
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Subject: [RealSTMFC] Making Dents & Bulges in Plastic Cars - Techniques?

Making Dents & Bulges in Plastic Cars - Techniques?

Allowing for differences in plastic composition and thickness in HO scale hoppers and gondolas, what techniques do those of you with experience recommend for creating dents and bulges in such cars?

I am especially interested in temperature ranges and choice of equipment used for softening plastic.

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Making Dents & Bulges in Plastic Cars - Techniques?

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Bob,
 
I've done this in N scale to a gondola by lining the inside of the gon with several layers of heavy duty aluminum foil. Then use a small soldering iron to heat the inside of the gon and, when the plastic is softened by the heat, press to bulge it out a bit. Locate the bulge in the center of the chosen side panels, since that is typically where the prototype is most likely to have a bulge. I also dinged the top chord, simulating damage due to dropped loads or dropped pieces of scrap.
 
You can see the results below - the gon looks like it is on its last legs! Hopefully the link works...
 
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2019 8:08 PM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Making Dents & Bulges in Plastic Cars - Techniques?

Making Dents & Bulges in Plastic Cars - Techniques?

Allowing for differences in plastic composition and thickness in HO scale hoppers and gondolas, what techniques do those of you with experience recommend for creating dents and bulges in such cars?

I am especially interested in temperature ranges and choice of equipment used for softening plastic.

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: CB&Q FM-11 flat car

Lester Breuer
 

Another fine build George.  Deck well done.
Lester Breuer


Re: Car Classifications For Loads

Randy Hammill
 

The book Freight Car Distribution and Car Handling in the United States is also available to read online: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015006075272

Randy
--

Randy Hammill
Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954
http://newbritainstation.com


Re: Making Dents & Bulges in Plastic Cars - Techniques?

killercarp
 

One can carefully gouge the inside between panels with a motor tool behind the bulges.  

In my observation, the sheet metal bulges but the structural members of the car are much more robust on prototype cars.  

On this car the sides use the ACC bulges.  The ends were gently bent after the car was immersed in hot water.

Tim VanMersbergen

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