Re: New early P&R steel gondola model
Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
Eric, An interesting model. Can you tell us how long they lasted in service? Were any sold off to other roads? Did any go into MW service or other uses? Yours Aye, Mungo Napier, Laird of Mallard Lodge 🦆
On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 7:03 AM Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:
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Cocoa Beach
Spen Kellogg
I am looking for a ride from the Orlando Airport to the Oceanside Hilton in Cocoa Beach on Thursday January 9. I arrive in Orlando on United flight #293 at 1:22 PM.
Please respond off list to spninetynine at centurylink dot net. Many thanks in advance. Spen Kellogg
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New early P&R steel gondola model
Eric Hansmann
A new HO scale model is available for those focused on early 20th Century modeling. A Philadelphia & Reading GAc class steel gondola with drop doors is available as a 3D print through Shapeways. Bob McGlone offers decals and a coal load to finish the models. Details are in the latest post on my blog.
Eric Hansmann
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Re: ATSF AAR 40’ Box Panels ?
Bernd Schroeder
Am 18.12.19, 02:54 schrieb mopacfirst <ron.merrick@...>:
The Santa Fe boxcar book (Boxcars of the Santa Fe 1869-1953) sheds no light on the Bx-48 roofwalk manufacturer. But I have on occasion used a plastic roofwalk made by Intermountain, which is in the 10' IH 6-panel boxcar and possibly in the PS-1. This is intended to represent an expanded-metal (early Gypsum) roofwalk, and it actually has some texture to it. It's thicker than an etched metal roofwalk, but it's beveled on the underside to make the thickness less obvious.
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Brewery Locomotive ID
Doug Auburg
I grew up with this “locomotive” being a part of the everyday scenery in Vancouver.
As others have said, it was a Bulldog Mac. For most of its life working as the switcher for the Lucky Larger Brewery in Vancouver, Washington it looked stock. The story I’ve heard is that sometime in the ‘60’s students at the local community college (Clark College) decided it should look more like a steam loco and fabricated the sheet metal body shown in the picture. The truck was routinely stored on the street outside the brewery, so was a common sight when driving by. There was track in the street up the to brewery and the Mack was used to move box cars between the brewery and the SP&S (later BN) yard.
The truck disappeared when the brewery was closed.
Doug Auburg Battle Ground WA
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Re: MONON gon spiral end
Jeff Sankus
s hi
On Dec 16, 2019, at 7:10 PM, Mont Switzer <MSwitzer@...> wrote:
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Re: ATSF AAR 40’ Box Panels ?
mopacfirst
The Santa Fe boxcar book (Boxcars of the Santa Fe 1869-1953) sheds no light on the Bx-48 roofwalk manufacturer. But I have on occasion used a plastic roofwalk made by Intermountain, which is in the 10' IH 6-panel boxcar and possibly in the PS-1. This is intended to represent an expanded-metal (early Gypsum) roofwalk, and it actually has some texture to it. It's thicker than an etched metal roofwalk, but it's beveled on the underside to make the thickness less obvious.
Ron Merrick
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Re: Brewery Locomotive ID
Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
Friends, Thank you to Charlie and Brian for the help. I had already tried a variation of the search Charlie suggested and didn't get good results. With his suggestion, I tried again with a different structure and got a site which answered the question: https://www.brewerygems.com/lucky.htm . It is indeed at the Lucky Lager brewery in Vancouver, Washington. Brian is right in that the machine is a Mack, and of 1927 vintage. And I agree, it likely is an AC "Bulldog", though some other Macks also had chain drive (Models AP and FN were two). I had that part. And for our faithful Moderator/Sheriff, this thing batted around freight cars for many, many years. It even seems to have a coupler on its rear end. Yours Aye, Garth Groff 🦆
On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 4:08 PM Charlie Vlk <cvlk@...> wrote:
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Re: Brewery Locomotive ID
Brian Rochon
Garth,
The photo appears to show chain drive on the truck. Assuming the 1927 date is accurate, the cab and radiator indicate that this is probably an AC model Mack.
v/r Brian Rochon Silver Spring, MD
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Charlie Vlk
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 4:09 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Brewery Locomotive ID
Garth- I googled “Lucky Vancouver Railroad Brewery” and it returned the Lucky Lager the first beer produced by the 1934 General Brewing Company in California which formed a strategic partnership with Coast Breweries in Vancouver Island, BC and other Canadian breweries. It expanded in the 50’s and 60’s as Lucky Lager Brewing Company in Vancouver WA….which is likely the venue for the photo. Charlie Vlk
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Friends,
Indulge me a bit here. This isn't strictly about freight cars, but I've spent hours trying to ID the attached photo of a 1927 Mack truck used as a switching locomotive I shot sometime in the 1960s. It was at a brewery in Oregon or Washington.
Any help would be appreciated.
Yours Aye,
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Re: Brewery Locomotive ID
Charlie Vlk
Garth- I googled “Lucky Vancouver Railroad Brewery” and it returned the Lucky Lager the first beer produced by the 1934 General Brewing Company in California which formed a strategic partnership with Coast Breweries in Vancouver Island, BC and other Canadian breweries. It expanded in the 50’s and 60’s as Lucky Lager Brewing Company in Vancouver WA….which is likely the venue for the photo. Charlie Vlk
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Friends,
Indulge me a bit here. This isn't strictly about freight cars, but I've spent hours trying to ID the attached photo of a 1927 Mack truck used as a switching locomotive I shot sometime in the 1960s. It was at a brewery in Oregon or Washington.
Any help would be appreciated. Yours Aye,
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Brewery Locomotive ID
Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
Friends, Indulge me a bit here. This isn't strictly about freight cars, but I've spent hours trying to ID the attached photo of a 1927 Mack truck used as a switching locomotive I shot sometime in the 1960s. It was at a brewery in Oregon or Washington. Any help would be appreciated. Yours Aye, Garth Groff 🦆
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Re: ATSF AAR 40’ Box Panels ?
Lester Breuer
Question on ATSF Bx -48 on the running board. Ed Hawkins has U.S. Gypsum (expanded metal) and Pierre in his kit 105.1 states Apex Tri-Lok. Are both correct? And, I do not know what the U.S. Gypsum expanded metal looks like. Does the term “expanded metal” give it a different shape than the open diamond pattern formed by stamping and stretching 12-guage steel which I believe is the same as the Plano Model Products #192 US Gypsum -Diamond pattern ( photo attached)?
Lester Breuer
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Re: MONON gon spiral end
Rob,
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Generally, you need to contact the designer and ask if they are willing to do that. I have had success doing that sort of thing with a couple of designers. Regards Bruce Bruce F. Smith Auburn, AL "Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."
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Re: MONON gon spiral end
Rob M.
Perhaps someone can school me - with Shapeways is it possible to order items upscaled? I’d surely be interested in a set in quarter inch scale for the IM O scale gon.
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Re: ATSF AAR 40’ Box Panels ?
Lester Breuer
It attached this time.
Lester Breuer
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Re: ATSF AAR 40’ Box Panels ?
Lester Breuer
The CB&T Shops Model has on the other side has the slogan in the attached photo.
Lester Breuer
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Re: ATSF AAR 40’ Box Panels ?
and the other side
On 12/16/2019 8:13 PM, Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io wrote:
I have one Bx-48 photo. --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: ATSF AAR 40’ Box Panels ?
I think the straight line map is correct for 1946. Ship & Travel came a little later? Tim O'Connor
On 12/16/2019 6:44 PM, Andy Carlson wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: ATSF AAR 40’ Box Panels ?
The model's prototype Bx-48 had 12 panel riveted sides, but the panels closest to the ends were WIDER than the other panels. So, no one has done a Bx-48 in plastic in any scale. Shave off the rivets, and replace with Archers. C&BT Shops produced 28 physically different permutations of the postwar 10'6" AAR box cars - including 12 panel cars with same-sized panels. Many of the permutations have no prototype at all. But for 12 panel 10'6" cars I think it's the only source in HO scale. (Intermountain offers a 10'0" 12 panel body.) Tim O'Connor
On 12/16/2019 6:06 PM, Lester Breuer wrote:
CB&T Shops produced the Limited Edition Car I purchased in the photo in 2013. Ends and roof match the prototype photo in the 1946 Car Builder’s Cyc; however, side panels on model are six vs five on the prototype. Doors also not correct. My question not having any reference data on the Santa Fe. Were any cars produced with the number of panels the model has? --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Another "What do I do with this" quiz
Clark Propst
I received this link http://nakina.net/cn/cn5.html from Calvin Monaghan off the resin car list. I couldn't find any info pointing to a number series for the Accurail 4400 series cars. Dennis Storzek remembers door and a half cars being rebuilt. Joe Binish sent me scans of article in Mainline Modeler by Stafford Swain. He talked about those rebuilds, but only mentioned wood door cars.
I might just pick a small number series of rebuilt cars off the link and let someone with proof tell be I'm wrong ; )) CW Propst
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