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Re: Photo: DL&W 70793
Matthew Hurst
This is a drop bottom gon. Note the hopper bottoms and the door mechanisms on the sides. Matthew Hurst
On December 28, 2019, at 2:04 PM, "Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io" <chiefbobbb@...> wrote: Photo: DL&W 70793 Nice shot of this car. Is it a flat car or a gondola? http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-12-26-19/X6139.jpg Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Another YouTube video...on M of W cars
Robert kirkham
Really enjoyed that Jack. Was useful to hear how you work through the model design and parts creation process.
Rob Kirkham
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Jack Burgess
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 9:49 AM To: RealSTMFC@groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] Another YouTube video...on M of W cars
Another video as part of the series I have been doing has been uploaded to YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQOr0CRinzM
This one is on M of W cars that I have been building.
Jack Burgess
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Re: Photo: DL&W 70793
mel perry
definitely a gondola mel perry
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 11:04 AM Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
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Photo: DL&W 70793
Photo: DL&W 70793 Nice shot of this car. Is it a flat car or a gondola? http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-12-26-19/X6139.jpg Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Numerous steam era freight cars at Jersey City, August 20, 1929
wow, nice picture!
On 12/28/2019 8:41 AM, Brian Rochon wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Another YouTube video...on M of W cars
Jack Burgess
Another video as part of the series I have been doing has been uploaded to YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQOr0CRinzM
This one is on M of W cars that I have been building.
Jack Burgess
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Re: Classic Trains on CD
Tony makes an excellent point! - but it reminds me of the Guy Dunscomb collection of fabulous Southern Pacific photographs that was bequeathed to the Huntington Collection, and may therefore never be seen again by humans. Perhaps millions of years from now intelligent life forms will rediscover them buried in a deep underground vault and wonder "What the heck were they thinking?". Some museums (like the Huntington) are like the computer joke about "write only memory".
On 12/27/2019 1:18 PM, Tony Thompson wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Classic Trains on CD
Magazines are not photos. I have issues of MRH (a FREE online publication with photos) that are 300 Megabytes each in size, and they are PDF files. Kalmbach could EASILY insert new advertising material into old issues of magazines if they were really worried about copying and sharing PDF files. Advertisers pay for eyeballs, so they'd be more than happy if people cheated, and probably spend enough to more than cover the scanning and distribution costs - Just as they do for MRH and others. ALL methods of digital copy protection can ALL be defeated. After all, software engineers understand how it works, and them who create these methods will know how to get around them. The days of selling paper copies of the same image over and over and over are drawing to a close. Besides which, inks and paper are bad for the environment. :-) Tim O'Connor
On 12/27/2019 1:01 PM, Bob Webber wrote:
This is an issue with digital images - people *WILL* copy, share and post on the internet. They have since the inception (which is one reason Microsoft's process is so convoluted and pricey now). They will also copy & share things that were specifically and explicitly forbidden by the license they signed (same). --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Numerous steam era freight cars at Jersey City, August 20, 1929
On Dec 28, 2019, at 05:41, Brian Rochon <berochon@msn.com> wrote:
That shot has some grand detail of a concrete cribbing! — ^<@<.@* hat less at less point at star }"_# | back brace double base pound space bar -@$&/_% dash at cash and slash base rate !(^I@|=> wow open tab at bar is great ;`+$?^? semi backquote plus cash huh DEL ,#"~|)^G comma pound double tilde bar close BEL
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SN Tank Car MW 68
David
This car is something of a puzzle, particularly its original builder. I'm open to any suggestions as to its origins (I know it is not an AC&F car as Ed Kaminski told me it wasn't a few years back).I have no idea why he said that. The car in the pics is pretty much a standard AC&F Type 4. David Thompson
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Re: Numerous steam era freight cars at Jersey City, August 20, 1929
Bill Daniels <billinsf@...>
Nice panoramic shot... notice the T&NO boxcar at the left end, and, no, it’s not that long, but an artifact of the panoramic camera that shot the image.
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Bill Daniels Santa Rosa, California
On Dec 28, 2019, at 5:41 AM, Brian Rochon <berochon@...> wrote:
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Numerous steam era freight cars at Jersey City, August 20, 1929
Brian Rochon
From the Erie-Lackawanna list today:
http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-12-28-19/X6844.jpg
Brian Rochon
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SN Tank Car MW 68
Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Good Friends, While working through scanning Sacramento Northern negatives shot by the late Kenneth Jenkins, I came to the tank car below. This car is something of a puzzle, particularly its original builder. I'm open to any suggestions as to its origins (I know it is not an AC&F car as Ed Kaminski told me it wasn't a few years back). SN MW 68 was one of three tanks purchased used in 1937. I am not certain, but United Commercial, a vendor of used equipment, may have been the source. AFE records show them as 7,500 gallon cars, but the actual capacity of this car is 7,923 gallons (could that dome hold 423 gallons?). There is a large wooden box added to the top of the tank, which apparently held a gasoline pump and hoses. The lettering on the frame of the first photo seems to give a build date of 1/05. The first photo is by Will Whittaker (negative also in my collection), and shows the car when new to the SN, circa 1938 (repack date). The second view is the Jenkins shot, and since it clearly has AB brakes, that means it is post-1955. AB brakes were added on AFE 27-54 dated 8/8/55. I have only seen one photo of one of the other tanks from this lot, and I can't say if they were all the same. What frustrates me today is that I saw one of these cars on the deadline in West Sacramento about 1967. I only took a photo of the car next to it (a burned out caboose), and that photo tantalizingly shows just the tank's end without enough information to be useful. Oy! But hey, I was only 16. Kids do dumb things. Yours Aye, Garth Groff 🦆
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Westerfield S.P. SS Boxcars
Richard Stern
Westerfield has released a number of new kits for Southern Pacific single-sheathed B50-15 boxcars. They have a number of unusual paint schemes, but I suspect from the descriptions that they did were only used on the SP, and didn't go into interchange servce. Can someone give me (a) some idea how the following were used and (b) whether they'd be seen on connecting railroads:
Original Wood Sheathed, SP Pacific Motor Trucking (PMT) and Overnight Versions of the B-50-15 SS Box Car Thanks Rick
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Re: micro coat flat
On Dec 27, 2019, at 1:08 PM, main@RealSTMFC.groups.io wrote:
3a. Re: micro coat flatSatin - semi gloss. Matte - flat Craig Zeni Cary NC
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CP 40 DD boxcar with end doors, Sylvan kit #1073 rerun reservations
Brent Greer
Cross posted from the Canadian Modeling List (with permission from the posting individual)
CP 40 foot Double Door with end door boxcar preliminary announcement, Sylvan kit HO-1073 I will be getting a custom run of Sylvan Models kit # HO-1073 Canadian Pacific Railway 40 foot double door boxcar with end door done in the New Year. This kit can be used to model 1938 built (road numbers 295500-295549), 1940 built (road numbers 295600-295649) and 1942 built (road numbers 295659-295799) cars. There were a total of 300 cars in this series. Many were subsequently renumbered into work service 404xxx numbers. The kit includes 13’6” doors for the 1938 cars along with the door extension that CP added to some cars, along with 15’ doors for the 1940 and 1942 built cars. In addition the kit will include Sylvan decals, etched brass ladders and a pair of Bettendorf trucks. Wheels and couplers are not included. Some of these cars lasted in revenue service into the early 1980’s, and some survived into the 1990’s or longer in company service. They are appropriate for steam era through to the modern day period. The kits will be $50 each. Please contact me via email at <mlwm420 AT gmail DOT com> to reserve your cars. No payment is required to reserve your model, payment will be due when the models ship. Shipping to your mailing address will be extra. Prototype photos of these cars in their original numbers are challenging to locate; below are a few photos of these cars in work service numbers via Canadian Freight Railcar Gallery, courtesy of Chris van der Heide. http://freight.railfan.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=cp404243&;o=cprail http://freight.railfan.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=cp404243detail1&;o=cprail http://freight.railfan.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=cp404094&;o=cprail http://freight.railfan.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=cp404094_2&;o=cprail http://freight.railfan.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=cp404077&;o=cprail I have reserved a couple. If you are also interested, contact Marc Simpson off-list at the address listed in the body of his message above. Brent ________________________________ Dr. J. Brent Greer
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Re: Retainer Valves - HO Scale
Eric Hansmann
I’m satisfied with the retainer valves on the Tichy K brake system parts sprue. I drill a hole and insert a length of 0.008-inch diameter wire before snipping them off the sprue. The brake parts all go into a multi-compartment box and the retainer valves are ready to install after the wire is in place.
Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lester Breuer
Tichy on the #3013 spruce with no part number; however, across from the bell crank #22-3013 - inexpensive
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Retainer Valves - HO Scale
Tom Madden
On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 11:01 AM, George Corral wrote:
Has anyone tried these? Shapeways: Bulk Retainer Valves by K. Kadwell Mfg. Co.I bought a set of 20 but haven't done anything with them. The back side is clean but the front side has the "frosty" look you get with this process. I expect that will clear up when they are ultrasonically cleaned with Bestine solvent. The material is very brittle and difficult to drill, so the designer has incorporated a stub coming out the bottom for the retainer pipe, with the idea that the modeler will make a butt joint between the stub and the wire retainer pipe. Problem is, the stub may be larger than the diameter of the wire you want to use. I can't get anything in to directly measure the stubs, but comparing them visually with drill shanks, they are about the same diameter as, and certainly no smaller than, a #80 drill, 0.0135". Tom Madden
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Re: Classic Trains on CD
Bob Webber
Tony, both are happening, often in step. For instance,
they (we) might have given up on some, but they are not processing
others. There is the main issue - one has to rationalize the costs
vs. the benefits (note I did not say revenue or profit).
And...it depends on who owns what. Were we to own the 2.5 million objects in the collection, and not be held by agreements - we'd likely put some images (lower-res, smaller size, less optimal formats) on the web. We can not do that, by agreement. I know of several archives that have, as you say, "given up" in terms of simply conserving, making they items available locally only, and hoping for a better day. Others are giving up by putting all or most on-line (in poorer qualities). Others straddle. There are many options, but those options may be rather restricted by something not in your power to change. Selling images may well be low income - depending on the scheme of things and your interpretations. We have ONLY that revenue stream, and that pays for everything we purchase (large format and other scanners, computers, storage, storage containers, etc. etc.). We are still ahead by doing so. We could *NEVER* pay a salary, or pay for the new building going up - but everything else is and must be covered. At 12:18 PM 12/27/2019, Tony Thompson wrote: Bob Webber wrote: Bob Webber
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Re: Retainer Valves - HO Scale
Ralph W. Brown
Hi Jon, Peter, et al.,
Tichy offers any array of wire diameters from 0.008” to 0.032” in 8” and 3’
lengths, as well as 0.040” wire but apparently only in 8” lengths. The
wire is phosphor-bronze rather than brass, but I’ve never found that to be a
problem for me. See: https://www.tichytraingroup.com/Shop.aspx?SearchValue=wire.
Some of the Tichy wire products appear to be currently available from Walthers
too. https://www.walthers.com/search/category/products/accessories/scratch-building-supplies/manufacturer-name/tichy-train-group/show/120?is_active_flag=141007&match=AND&q=wire.
Clover House offers straightened brass in 12” lengths and an array of
diameters (https://cloverhouse.com/Cart/index.php?cPath=64&osCsid=cmrtivslojmrbbtq8ci2oeqv56),
as well as 100’ coils of phosphor-bronze wire in 0.013” and 0.020” diameters (https://cloverhouse.com/Cart/index.php?cPath=30_32).
Pax,
Ralph
Brown
Portland, Maine PRRT&HS No. 3966 NMRA No. L2532 rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com
From: Jon
Miller
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 12:23 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Retainer Valves - HO
Scale On 12/27/2019 8:52 AM, Peter Hall
wrote:
does anyone know of a source for 0.015” brass wire? Tichy? -- Jon Miller For me time stopped in 1941 Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems, SPROG, JMRI User NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS
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