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Re: Certainly a "Steam Era" freight car!

Bob Webber
 

At 11:57 AM 1/3/2020, you wrote:
On 1/3/2020 9:53 AM, George Eichelberger wrote:

(low res version attached)

    I still can't open these but if I transfer to the desktop and then open it works.  Might have something to do with the low res version.

Doubtful.  More likely file associations & actions within your mail client, browser and PC/Mac.  Esp. true when using web client e-mail (such as gmail via Firefox - Firefox & Gmail esp. do not always play nice as they attempt to rectify e-mail gaffes of the past (in security).  Gmail changes their secure certificate server address weekly (some clients pick up open it and trust implicitly, some (like Eudora) are older and must be modified to make the change explicitly.   Firefox has required various settings to change as they attempt to close some holes and Microsoft attempts (not at all successfully) to close their OS holes and requirements. 

Apple has its own issues, contrary what you might have heard (the very first virus in the wild targeted (and worked on) Apples.  Their proprietary software and platform does lend itself to  fewer issues simply by requiring everyone to play nicely (as Apple sees it) - both with benefits and negatives.  Not having one recently to play with, I can't say what the settings might be..

JPGs, depending upon the tool used to create the "low res" version are typically transportable across platforms.   When it opens on the desktop but not from e-mail, it is most likely due to the OS/Browser/Client file options issues.  Looking at event logs would clarify things  more than a little bit.  There are multiple variants of jpgs (and tifs) - different tools and applications will/may process them differently. 

The underpinnings of Thunderbird / Mozilla / Firefox are such that each uses an excuse of "less secure" software against each other.   Check this out:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/thunderbird-and-gmail
And verify settings and options for openign file types.

Bob Webber


Re: ATSF Boxcar 274525 gets galvanized running boards

Edward
 

Yes, it looks really good!
Maybe an odd question here:
When the black car cement was applied, would the galvanized running board and corner platforms not be on the car, but installed after the car cement set?
Masking them would have been quite a time consuming job!

Ed Bommer 


Re: ATSF Boxcar 274525 gets galvanized running boards

Ken Adams
 

I could see a few new railroad modeling uses for those makeup swabs. Larger than the largest tiny paint microbrushes for adjusting weathering powders and not as clumsy as using the standard bathroom cotton swab. Good tip.


Re: Bucyrus RB17 Crane Loaded on a Flat Car Photos

Bruce Smith
 

Bill,

Here are a pair of Army crawler cranes loaded onto a flat car. Photo is from the US Signal Corps Archive, Port of Embarkation, Norfolk, Va.

It is important to note that many of the photos supplied are of MOW applications. These differences somewhat from how a crawler crane might be hauled from one place to another as cargo, although there are many similarities as well. Common themes for these loads typically include:
  • chocks fore and aft of the treads
  • blocking on the inside of the tread to prevent sideways slippage (usually not seen on MOW cranes)
  • boom and body tie downs - sometimes a boom support.
  • supports under the rear of the body (under the counterweight)
A typical difference would be that the MOW crane often had a dedicated flat car with special tie downs and supports.

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Bill Welch <fgexbill@...>
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 7:45 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Bucyrus RB17 Crane Loaded on a Flat Car Photos
 
I am curious if anyone knows of photos of a Bucyrus crane loaded on a flat car? There is a very nice kit available. Thank you.

Bill Welch


Re: ATSF Boxcar 274525 gets galvanized running boards

O Fenton Wells
 

Lester, the Bx 48 looks very nice.  I like the black roof and galvanized running board.
Fenton

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 11:44 AM Joseph <Mstl852@...> wrote:
Nice job Les.  Third time is the charm!
Joe Binish

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 10:16 AM Lester Breuer <rforailroad@...> wrote:
After I repainted the roof and running boards black on ATSF Boxcar 274525, class Bx-48, I obtained more information stating the steel running boards for this car were galvanized and left unpainted.  So back to the paint shop one more time to obtain galvanized running boards.  If you are interested as to why and how, photos and writeup of the repaint process including paint and weathering are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you would like to take a look please do at the following link:

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/

Lester Breuer



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Re: Erie Boxcar red help

Ken Adams
 

My go to color for the past two years is to use a spray can of Tamiya Red Oxide primer. After that it it is tint washes of Vallejo paints brush applied till I get the shade I want for a specific car. 

I have to spray out on my townhouse deck when the wind dies down and the fog or fall forest fire smoke is not present which is a limitation. I can use the Vallejo washes indoors. 


Re: Certainly a "Steam Era" freight car!

Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
 

On 1/3/2020 9:53 AM, George Eichelberger wrote:
(low res version attached)

    I still can't open these but if I transfer to the desktop and then open it works.  Might have something to do with the low res version.

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, 
SPROG, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Certainly a "Steam Era" freight car!

George Eichelberger
 

While looking for Bucyrus cranes on flat cars, I re-discovered the attached photo of L&N MoW flat 41839 in a pile driver outfit 5-17-70 at Atlanta. (low res version attached)

It is from the Southern Railway Historical Assoc archives, Oscar Kimsey, Jr collection. (One of 459 items in Oscar's L&N MoW file). Of all the Southeastern railroads, the L&N may have some of the oddest, home-built MoW equipment.

Ike



Re: Kits/Cars for Sale

Armand Premo
 

Me too.

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 11:37 AM Bill J. via Groups.Io <jolitzwr=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Tom, I'm interested!

Bill Jolitz


jolitzwr at yahoo dot com


Re: ATSF Boxcar 274525 gets galvanized running boards

Joseph
 

Nice job Les.  Third time is the charm!
Joe Binish

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 10:16 AM Lester Breuer <rforailroad@...> wrote:
After I repainted the roof and running boards black on ATSF Boxcar 274525, class Bx-48, I obtained more information stating the steel running boards for this car were galvanized and left unpainted.  So back to the paint shop one more time to obtain galvanized running boards.  If you are interested as to why and how, photos and writeup of the repaint process including paint and weathering are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you would like to take a look please do at the following link:

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/

Lester Breuer


Can anyone tell me anything about the "Safcar" running board and step?

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Here:

https://digital.hagley.org/islandora/object/islandora%3A2365201/datastream/OBJ/view

And check out the gorgeous hand brake wheel!

Elden Gatwood


Re: Kits/Cars for Sale

Bill J.
 

Tom, I'm interested!

Bill Jolitz


jolitzwr at yahoo dot com


interesting auto parts equipment in PRR X32D

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Group;

Look at this interesting auto parts set-up:

https://digital.hagley.org/PRR_20184?solr_nav%5Bid%5D=2aa93808612ee21d6f02&solr_nav%5Bpage%5D=13&solr_nav%5Boffset%5D=10

Hope I find one with a chassis in place!

Elden Gatwood


ATSF Boxcar 274525 gets galvanized running boards

Lester Breuer
 

After I repainted the roof and running boards black on ATSF Boxcar 274525, class Bx-48, I obtained more information stating the steel running boards for this car were galvanized and left unpainted.  So back to the paint shop one more time to obtain galvanized running boards.  If you are interested as to why and how, photos and writeup of the repaint process including paint and weathering are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you would like to take a look please do at the following link:

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/

Lester Breuer


another crane shot

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Bill;

Here's another:

https://digital.hagley.org/AVD_2017206_025

Elden Gatwood


tank car assigned to American Extract Co, Port Allegany PA

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 

Hi List Members,
 
In the background, we see a partial view of a tank car assigned to American Extract Co, Port Allegany PA.
 
 
 
 
Wish we could see more of the tank car!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 


Re: Erie Boxcar red help

mopacfirst
 

I can attest to the Westerfield ladders -- as a MoPac modeler, I'm now on my second order of them.

Ron Merrick


Re: Bucyrus RB17 Crane Loaded on a Flat Car Photos

Bill Welch
 

wow, thank you Tim!!!

Bill Welch


Re: Bucyrus RB17 Crane Loaded on a Flat Car Photos

Tim O'Connor
 

On 1/3/2020 8:45 AM, Bill Welch wrote:
I am curious if anyone knows of photos of a Bucyrus crane loaded on a flat car? There is a very nice kit available. Thank you.

Bill Welch

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Erie Boxcar red help

Marty McGuirk
 

The ongoing saga of this car continues! 
Thanks for the tip on the Westerfield wider ladders - will have to check them out.
This is actually the second of these kits I’ve built.
Its predecessor was one of the first resin cars I’d built - made out of the old dark resin.
I built it in the stateroom on an LST. 
Made the mistake of test fitting the trucks and went on watch - came back to two trucks rolling around on the deck still attached to the remains of the bolsters - and what seemed like hundreds of little resin fragments.
Marty McGuirk 


On Jan 2, 2020, at 1:08 PM, WILLIAM PARDIE <PARDIEW001@...> wrote:


Nice job on this early Westerfield car.  I did this car when it first came out but that car has suffered some damage.  I have decals for a later period and have obtained another kit.  One note.  The ladders on this and several other MP cars were wider than normal.  Westerfield now has the proper ladders as a separate part.

Bull Pardie



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-------- Original message --------
From: Marty McGuirk <mjmcguirk@...>
Date: 1/2/20 3:09 AM (GMT-10:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io, Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Erie Boxcar red help

My go-to color for a basic freight car red has become Vallejo "Rust" - which for a while was sold by Micro-Mark as "Boxcar Red." I'll usually tint it one way or the other with either a crimson red or a earth/flesh tone depending on if I want to lighten and/or darken it. 
It's considerably less brown and a much warmer color than the old Floquil/Polly Scale BCR, which always seemed a little bluish/purple to my eye. 

Here's a car painted with straight Vallejo Rust prior to a flat coat being applied - 


Marty McGuirk
On January 1, 2020 at 5:05 PM Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:

Or buy a bottle of Tru Color Erie Freight Car Brown, which is matched to color chips and is more brown than the red in the photo.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pierre Oliver
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2020 2:41 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Erie Boxcar red help

 

And the printed colour charts from Vallejo are of little help as well, as I've discovered
Best thing to do is take the photo to the shop and peruse the options

Pierre Oliver
    
www.elgincarshops.com
    
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
    

On 1/01/20 3:14 p.m., Brian Carlson via Groups.Io wrote:

My only local hobby shop caters more to the plastic kit (airplanes, cars etc) modelers than Model RR but they are good for things like paint. I am going to be painting an Erie Boxcar in the near future and they have Vallejo and Tamiya paints. Does anyone have a color in either line that would be close to the color of the attached photo? I’ve learned the color name on the label means nothing. Heck Lester B used Vallejo Model Color Red Leather to model PRR FCC and it looks good.

 

Brian J. Carlson, P.E.

Cheektowaga NY

 

 



 

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