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Re: One-Piece Cast Resin Box Car Bodies
Tom Madden
It's a non-issue. I just dug in the trash and found one of the casting fill tube stubs I remove from Resin Car Works reefer, boxcar and auto car bodies after demolding. Photo attached. I snap these off and they break almost flush with the underside of the roof so there's no "blob" left, but even if I left them on the whole stub weighs only 1.2 grams. That's all of 0.04 ounces. It's 3/16" diameter and 1 3/4" long. No effect on the center of gravity.
Tom Madden
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Re: Can anyone tell me anything about the "Safcar" running board and step?
Jack Mullen
Yes.
The correct name is "Safkar", made by the Irving Iron Works Co., Long Island City, NY. The open grid is formed by alternating straight and zigzag bars, all running longitudinally, riveted together, forming a distinctive pattern of trapezoidal openings. Page in the '28 CBCyc shows use as passenger car step treads, mentioned being in use for 8 years. In the '31 Loco Cyc, they're shown as loco running boards and steps. Not found in the '40 CBCyc. I've wondered about their possible use on freight cars, but don't recall ever seeing anything in print. I have a vague notion that I've seen something of the sort in the real world, long ago. So this photo is a cool find. I'll try to post an image later. Jack Mullen
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Re: One-Piece Cast Resin Box Car Bodies
WILLIAM PARDIE
I had a concern with several of the early one piece bodies in that there was a groove between the send and the sides. This would happen with flat kits if the ends of the sides and the back of the ends were not perfectly flat. Pn the flatkitsthis was easily corrected. I gave not bought any of the recent one piece offerings so I don't know if this problem persists. One piece bodies are certainly a time saver. Bill Pardie Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: mopacfirst <ron.merrick@...> Date: 1/3/20 12:50 PM (GMT-10:00) To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] One-Piece Cast Resin Box Car Bodies But to answer the question, the wall thickness is greater on the one-piece body, as a rule, and I've seen some that had a fair bit of resin on the inside, but not enough to matter in terms of CG. I put two ounces of weight (fishing weights) in a 40' car, and I think that's enough to overcome the, perhaps, 0.1 to 0.2 ounce of extra resin in the top of the car. I've weighed several of them, so this is somewhat based on actual data. I recently took a Dremel to the inside of a one-piece body, one of those where the resin is white, but that was to clean up numerous low nubbies at the bottom edge of the ID that prevented the floor from sitting properly and I couldn't get a file in there. Did I mention that some of the one-piece bodies also have a ledge at the right point to help the floor sit straight? That was an issue with some older flat kits sometimes. Another reason I'm not so worried about extra weight inside the car is that it's common for me to glue a piece of ,125 x .250, or ..250 square, on the inside of the car side at the top to square up the side, while I'm assembling the box. I'll cement the floor solidly to the bottom edge of the sides later, during final assembly when the floor is painted black and the sides and perhaps ends are different colors but the top edge being straight is the most critical because of the way some car sides of older prototypes meet the roof. Ron Merrick
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Re: One-Piece Cast Resin Box Car Bodies
Bill Welch
I have assembled many one piece body kits and have many still in kit form. I have never seen one with a "big blob of resin on the underside of the roof."
Bill Welch
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Re: One-Piece Cast Resin Box Car Bodies
mopacfirst
My answer: nothing. I've only recently started to encounter one-piece bodies due to my backlog, and frankly I welcome them. I've actually sold some flat kits when a different manufacturer made a one-piece version of the same car.
But to answer the question, the wall thickness is greater on the one-piece body, as a rule, and I've seen some that had a fair bit of resin on the inside, but not enough to matter in terms of CG. I put two ounces of weight (fishing weights) in a 40' car, and I think that's enough to overcome the, perhaps, 0.1 to 0.2 ounce of extra resin in the top of the car. I've weighed several of them, so this is somewhat based on actual data. I recently took a Dremel to the inside of a one-piece body, one of those where the resin is white, but that was to clean up numerous low nubbies at the bottom edge of the ID that prevented the floor from sitting properly and I couldn't get a file in there. Did I mention that some of the one-piece bodies also have a ledge at the right point to help the floor sit straight? That was an issue with some older flat kits sometimes. Another reason I'm not so worried about extra weight inside the car is that it's common for me to glue a piece of ,125 x .250, or ..250 square, on the inside of the car side at the top to square up the side, while I'm assembling the box. I'll cement the floor solidly to the bottom edge of the sides later, during final assembly when the floor is painted black and the sides and perhaps ends are different colors but the top edge being straight is the most critical because of the way some car sides of older prototypes meet the roof. Ron Merrick
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One-Piece Cast Resin Box Car Bodies
Rossiter, Mark W <Mark.Rossiter@...>
A quick question for the resin kit builders out there. Most of the kit manufacturers nowadays are using one-piece bodies for box cars, rather than flat wall pieces. In many ways I view this as a huge leap forward. My question is what, if anything, do you do with the big blob of resin on the underside of the roof casting leftover from the mold/casting process? Do you attempt to remove this or do you just leave it alone? Seems to me it could affect the preferred center of gravity on cars intended for operation.
Mark Rossiter
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Re: New Manufacturer Prototype Junction's 1st Project AT&SF Bx-11,12,13 and a RI, PLUS a CGW, L&N and PM/C&O
Fritz Milhaupt
I am finding the bit of "scope creep" that was added to the first release last night, the CGW, L&N and PM/C&O auto boxcars, to be very welcome. Modeling Editor, Pere Marquette Historical Society, Inc.
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Shipping Fish
Shipping Fish Where there any rules restricting refrigerator cars to fresh fish loads once they had been used to ship fresh fish? Or did this depend on how the fist were packaged? Thanks. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Certainly a "Steam Era" freight car!
Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
On 1/3/2020 10:28 AM, Bob Webber
wrote:
Not sure what Thunderbird 38 is? My setting is
automatic update. Under help it says my "version?" is 68.3.1
(32 bit) -- Jon Miller For me time stopped in 1941 Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems, SPROG, JMRI User NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS
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Re: Certainly a "Steam Era" freight car!
Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
On 1/3/2020 10:28 AM, Bob Webber
wrote:
JPGs, depending upon the tool used to create the "low res" version are typically transportable across platforms. Win10, paint.net (set for all JPGs), Thunderbird
for email (regular size JPGs seems to have no problem from
Thunderbird but lately I have been getting some marked low res.
These don't open, while on the next email a regular (not low
res) JPGs will open just fine! -- Jon Miller For me time stopped in 1941 Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems, SPROG, JMRI User NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS
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Re: Certainly a "Steam Era" freight car!
Bob Webber
At 11:57 AM 1/3/2020, you wrote:
On 1/3/2020 9:53 AM, George Eichelberger wrote: Doubtful. More likely file associations & actions within your mail client, browser and PC/Mac. Esp. true when using web client e-mail (such as gmail via Firefox - Firefox & Gmail esp. do not always play nice as they attempt to rectify e-mail gaffes of the past (in security). Gmail changes their secure certificate server address weekly (some clients pick up open it and trust implicitly, some (like Eudora) are older and must be modified to make the change explicitly. Firefox has required various settings to change as they attempt to close some holes and Microsoft attempts (not at all successfully) to close their OS holes and requirements. Apple has its own issues, contrary what you might have heard (the very first virus in the wild targeted (and worked on) Apples. Their proprietary software and platform does lend itself to fewer issues simply by requiring everyone to play nicely (as Apple sees it) - both with benefits and negatives. Not having one recently to play with, I can't say what the settings might be.. JPGs, depending upon the tool used to create the "low res" version are typically transportable across platforms. When it opens on the desktop but not from e-mail, it is most likely due to the OS/Browser/Client file options issues. Looking at event logs would clarify things more than a little bit. There are multiple variants of jpgs (and tifs) - different tools and applications will/may process them differently. The underpinnings of Thunderbird / Mozilla / Firefox are such that each uses an excuse of "less secure" software against each other. Check this out: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/thunderbird-and-gmail And verify settings and options for openign file types. Bob Webber
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Re: ATSF Boxcar 274525 gets galvanized running boards
Yes, it looks really good!
Maybe an odd question here: When the black car cement was applied, would the galvanized running board and corner platforms not be on the car, but installed after the car cement set? Masking them would have been quite a time consuming job! Ed Bommer
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Re: ATSF Boxcar 274525 gets galvanized running boards
I could see a few new railroad modeling uses for those makeup swabs. Larger than the largest tiny paint microbrushes for adjusting weathering powders and not as clumsy as using the standard bathroom cotton swab. Good tip.
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Re: Bucyrus RB17 Crane Loaded on a Flat Car Photos
Bill,
Here are a pair of Army crawler cranes loaded onto a flat car. Photo is from the US Signal Corps Archive, Port of Embarkation, Norfolk, Va.
It is important to note that many of the photos supplied are of MOW applications. These differences somewhat from how a crawler crane might be hauled from one place to another as cargo, although there are many similarities as well. Common themes for these loads
typically include:
A typical difference would be that the MOW crane often had a dedicated flat car with special tie downs and supports.
Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Bill Welch <fgexbill@...>
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 7:45 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Subject: [RealSTMFC] Bucyrus RB17 Crane Loaded on a Flat Car Photos I am curious if anyone knows of photos of a Bucyrus crane loaded on a flat car? There is a very nice kit available. Thank you.
Bill Welch
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Re: ATSF Boxcar 274525 gets galvanized running boards
Lester, the Bx 48 looks very nice. I like the black roof and galvanized running board. Fenton
On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 11:44 AM Joseph <Mstl852@...> wrote:
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Re: Erie Boxcar red help
My go to color for the past two years is to use a spray can of Tamiya Red Oxide primer. After that it it is tint washes of Vallejo paints brush applied till I get the shade I want for a specific car.
I have to spray out on my townhouse deck when the wind dies down and the fog or fall forest fire smoke is not present which is a limitation. I can use the Vallejo washes indoors.
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Re: Certainly a "Steam Era" freight car!
Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
On 1/3/2020 9:53 AM, George
Eichelberger wrote:
I still can't open these but if I transfer to
the desktop and then open it works. Might have something to do
with the low res version. -- Jon Miller For me time stopped in 1941 Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems, SPROG, JMRI User NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS
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Certainly a "Steam Era" freight car!
George Eichelberger
While looking for Bucyrus cranes on flat cars, I re-discovered the attached photo of L&N MoW flat 41839 in a pile driver outfit 5-17-70 at Atlanta. (low res version attached)
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Re: Kits/Cars for Sale
Armand Premo
Me too. 
On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 11:37 AM Bill J. via Groups.Io <jolitzwr=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: Tom, I'm interested!
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Re: ATSF Boxcar 274525 gets galvanized running boards
Joseph
Nice job Les. Third time is the charm! Joe Binish
On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 10:16 AM Lester Breuer <rforailroad@...> wrote: After I repainted the roof and running boards black on ATSF Boxcar 274525, class Bx-48, I obtained more information stating the steel running boards for this car were galvanized and left unpainted. So back to the paint shop one more time to obtain galvanized running boards. If you are interested as to why and how, photos and writeup of the repaint process including paint and weathering are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company. If you would like to take a look please do at the following link:
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