Erie RR Notice On Stop-Off Cars
Erie RR Notice On Stop-Off Cars Any comments on this? Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: 3-3-3 ends
Tom Madden
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 01:06 AM, Staffan Ehnbom wrote:
Staffan - Well, they are 30+ years old. Richard was even using a dot matrix printer for his labels. The attached photo shows the dimensions and a comparison to ends from an InterMountain 10' 6" IH boxcar. They're pretty close to interchangeable if you remove the rivet strip at the top of the West Rail ends. Richard made his parts to fit Athearn blue box car bodies. The material is filled polyester, the same as Al's early kits but Richard chose a red colorant rather than gray. That's a "fast" casting resin, cures quickly and generates a lot of heat. You can cast a lot of parts in a hurry, but if you don't let the mold cool off between pours it will heat up and expand and the parts will get larger and larger as you go. It's a high shrinkage resin as well just from the coefficient of expansion effect - solidify at a high temp, cool down to room temp. Really high shrink resins can even pull away from the face of the mold as they cure and the castings either have a dappled appearance (some areas still in contact with the mold at final cure and some not), or be really glossy (entire face of the casting loses contact with the mold so the casting has none of the mold's surface texture). We may be seeing some of that here. In any event, if Greg wants to reintroduce any of these castings the place to start is with the original masters, not these dimensionally variable castings. Tom Madden
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Re: 3-3-3 ends
Staffan Ehnbom
Hi Tom, Would you tell us how wide the West Rail casting is? Surprised to see the tack board seems to be cast in place. Staffan Ehnbom
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 12:43 AM Tom Madden via Groups.Io <pullmanboss=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 11:36 AM, Greg Martin wrote:
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Offered: HO NP AAR Alternative std hoppers by Intermountain
Andy Carlson
Hello- I am offering for purchase 5 HO Intermountain RTR Northern Pacific black coal hoppers. IM #47152 47152-01 NP 70203; 47152-02 NP 70222; 47152-03 NP 70259; 47152-04 NP 70304; 47152-06 NP 70386. Purchase all 5 brand new, in never been removed from original boxes hopper cars for $120. Buyer to pay $14 for Priority USPS mail.Not sold individually, sold as one lot of 5 cars. Pictures are from IMRC's web site. My cars have not been removed from their original mint packaging. I accept checks and money orders. with a small fee, I accept PayPal. Contact me off-list (Please) for details at <midcentury@...>Thanks, -Andy Carlson Ojai CA
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Re: 3-3-3 ends
Tom Madden
On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 11:36 AM, Greg Martin wrote:
I have examples of many of Richard's WestRail parts. Here's the 3-3-3 end. It's pretty nice. Tom Madden
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Sunshine Kits wanted
Chuck Cover
Wanted Sunshine Kits:
37.9, 37.11 or 39.12 DL&W 4650 series DS 40’ Boxcar 37.10 LV 60000 series DS 40’ Boxcar 97.1, 97.2, 97.4 or 97.5 NC&SL XM-32 36’ steel rebuilt Boxcar 64.8 NKP 25000-25099 10’6” rebuilt Boxcar with end door 64.14 or 64.15 C&O 2000-2799 rebuilt Boxcar 96.9 D&RGW 65100-65199 steel DD automobile Boxcar
I have a list of 9 sunshine kits that I would be willing to trade for any of the above or if you have a kit that I listed above and want to sell it, please let me know. If youlet me know that you are interested, I will email you my list of extra kits for trade.
PLEASE CONTACT ME OFF LIST.
Thanks
Chuck Cover Santa Fe, NM
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Re: Photos: Wabash Automobile Boxcar 47194
Walter
There is also one located in Montrose, IA. I have been unable to find my pictures. From what I recall it’s in need of some paint and didn’t have a visible number. Lenny Ohrnell
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Re: Photos: Wabash Automobile Boxcar 47194
Greg Martin
All,
In my collection I have a mold/master that Richard Hendrickson had made of a 3-3-3 end for West Rails. I will dig it out and see the spec's on it, but it will have to be after Cocoa Beach.
Greg Martin
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean Sent from AOL Desktop
In a message dated 1/4/2020 6:22:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, richtownsend@... writes:
-- Hey Boss, Somehow I got deleted from this group in late May. I guess someone didn't like me. Jail is a lonely place. Greg Martin
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Re: Photos: Wabash Automobile Boxcar 47194
Richard Townsend
But it would be so much easier to just tear open a plastic baggie!
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
-----Original Message-----
From: mel perry <clipper841@...> To: main <main@realstmfc.groups.io> Sent: Sat, Jan 4, 2020 6:40 pm Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photos: Wabash Automobile Boxcar 47194 richard:
do what the old timers did, slice & dice
:-)
mel perry
On Sat, Jan 4, 2020, 6:22 PM Richard Townsend via Groups.Io <richtownsend=netscape.net@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Photos: Wabash Automobile Boxcar 47194
Richard Townsend
I'll have to look and see if I can find one of those cars to take a look at the ends. Train Miniature did some 3/3/3 ends but they are way short. Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
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Re: Photos: Wabash Automobile Boxcar 47194
It's a Miner "Ideal" lever hand brake. A co-worker of mine at BB&N Technologies (Cambridge, MA) was a descendent of the Miner family. We used to talk trains sometimes...
On 1/4/2020 8:59 PM, Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: PS-1s and wooden running boards
ALL box cars built after WW II ended had steel running boards. The first PS-1 box cars
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were built after 1945.
On 1/5/2020 12:29 AM, Brian Carlson via Groups.Io wrote:
In my parts stashI have a few laser kit packages of wooden runningboards for Intermountain PS-1 box cars. Were any PS 1 box cars delivered with wooden running boards? --
*Tim O'Connor* *Sterling, Massachusetts*
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Re: Photos: Wabash Automobile Boxcar 47194
mel perry
there must be two of these cars in museums, i remember another photo, except that car had loading doors on the "A" end mel perry
On Sat, Jan 4, 2020, 5:59 PM Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Photos: Wabash Automobile Boxcar 47194
Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Richard, I'm not sure they are up to even the lowest standards of today, but a 3/3/3 Dreadnaught was used on Tyco 50' plug door boxcars. Why I don't know. I cut some away for possible later use from cars found in a box of stuff I acquired, (they are still in my parts box). Since these ends have ladders and brake detail cast on, I suggest getting a pair of cars at a train show and using only the A ends, which would require less carving. I think I've also got some really clunky cast lead 3/3/3 ends, probably from an ancient Red Ball kit. These would be best used as interior weights where they would never be seen again. Remember, never throw anything away. You can always find some use for it. Someday. Maybe. Well . . . . Yours Aye, Mungo Napier, Laird of Mallard Lodge 🦆
On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 9:22 PM Richard Townsend via Groups.Io <richtownsend=netscape.net@groups.io> wrote: I wish a good 3/3/3 end were available.
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Re: PS-1s and wooden running boards
Ed Hawkins
Brian, No, all were steel. The earliest PS-1 box cars built starting in 6-47 (LV 62000-62499) came with Apex Tri-lok running boards & brake steps. In addition to Apex that had widespread use on PS-1s, other types included U.S. Gypsum, Morton, Kerrigan, & Blaw-Knox. Regards, Ed Hawkins
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PS-1s and wooden running boards
In my parts stashI have a few laser kit packages of wooden runningboards for Intermountain PS-1 box cars. Were any PS 1 box cars delivered with wooden running boards?
Brian J. Carlson
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Re: Photos: Wabash Automobile Boxcar 47194
Armand Premo
Hmmn,And no end numbers,Armand Premo ![]()
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Re: Photos: Wabash Automobile Boxcar 47194
william darnaby
This is very likely one of the cars that for years sat along the back of the Alcoa Aluminum plant in Lafayette, Indiana and that I saw on my trips to and from Purdue 50 years ago. They got scattered in the late 1980’s when Alcoa gave them up. A handful ended up at the Indiana Transportation Museum in Noblesville, Indiana. A couple still had their Evans Auto racks in them when I shot them up for an article that I did on upgrading an F&C kit for MR…or was it MM…I don’t remember.
Bill Darnaby
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io
Photos: Wabash Automobile Boxcar 47194 Three photos taken in Atlanta, Illinois from the Railroad Prototype Modeler blog: https://railroadprototypemodeler.files.wordpress.com/2019/08/dscn9117-1.jpg?w=676 https://railroadprototypemodeler.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/dscn9113.jpg?w=676 https://railroadprototypemodeler.files.wordpress.com/2019/08/dscn9114.jpg?w=676 Notice the lever-style handbrake. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Photos: Wabash Automobile Boxcar 47194
mel perry
richard: do what the old timers did, slice & dice :-) mel perry
On Sat, Jan 4, 2020, 6:22 PM Richard Townsend via Groups.Io <richtownsend=netscape.net@groups.io> wrote: I wish a good 3/3/3 end were available.
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Re: Photos: Wabash Automobile Boxcar 47194
Richard Townsend
I wish a good 3/3/3 end were available.
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