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Caboose A vs. B End Orientation Question
Nelson Moyer
I’m working on two waycars (Burlington usage), and I need to know which end is considered the A and B end where the cupola is offset from center. Specifically, I’m building two CB&Q NE-10 steel waycars as modified in 1945 by blanking out one window, moving the toilet, and adding a truck generator, battery box, wagon wheel antenna. These cars were updated with Ajax power hand brakes at the same time. My question has to do with the orientation of the brake cylinder, control valve, and air reservoir, i.e. does the brake cylinder point toward the long end or the short (cupola) end.
Nelson Moyer
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Re: Sunshine Kits wanted
lrkdbn
Dear Sir
Please send me your Email so I can contact you re these kits. Laurance King <lrkdbn@...>
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Milwaukee road caboose interior color...?
Brad Andonian
Fellas, Thank you, Brad Andonian
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Re: PRR G25 "screw car"
Dave Parker
Tim:
They look like the PRR 70-ton "Crown" truck, kissing cousin to the USRA 70-t Andrews. Consistent with the CAPY in the pic (and ORER). -- Dave Parker Swall Meadows, CA
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Re: PRR G25 "screw car"
what kind of trucks are on that car?
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On 1/9/2020 2:31 PM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD wrote:
Someone asked for a photo, and here is one: --
*Tim O'Connor* *Sterling, Massachusetts*
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and here's another PRR G25 screw car from above
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
https://digital.hagley.org/PRR_13470?solr_nav%5Bid%5D=920c3a4eb30134ce25cf&solr_nav%5Bpage%5D=94&solr_nav%5Boffset%5D=7
I looked at these closely when doing the research for the PRR gon book, and it was clear they had some major mods to make this work. The blades going through the floor made relocation of some of the brake equipment necessary. Elden Gatwood
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PRR X31B with staging for station wagon bodies
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
https://digital.hagley.org/PRR_12065?solr_nav%5Bid%5D=ffce273c9a49e5007a0f&solr_nav%5Bpage%5D=93&solr_nav%5Boffset%5D=24
How cool is that! Elden Gatwood
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PRR G25 "screw car"
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Someone asked for a photo, and here is one:
https://digital.hagley.org/PRR_13469?solr_nav%5Bid%5D=b6e76c81d9c5e6f02def&solr_nav%5Bpage%5D=93&solr_nav%5Boffset%5D=19 Elden Gatwood
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great old tank car
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
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Re: Tank Car handrail stantions
Peter Hall
I forgot to mention that plastic stanchions of nearly the same size and shape are available from Tichy on their 3007 tank car set.
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Thanks Pete
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Tank Car handrail stantions
Lester Breuer
If building a tank car what handrail stantions are available? I see Precision Scale on eBay; however, do not know part number to purchase. Do not see them listed in Precision Scale Co. Catalog No 5. Are there others besides Precision Scale available?
Lester Breuer
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SFRD reefers
Paul Doggett
Hi
Could someone tell me when SFRD stopped painting the ironwork ladders, grabs etc on their reefers black. Paul Doggett. England
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The Fall issue of The Keystone Modeler is available
Folks,
The Fall issue (#110) of The Keystone Modeler is now available on the PRRT&HS web site at: http://www.prrths.com/newprr_files/newPRRKeystoneModeler.htm
Bruce Bruce Smith, Assistant webmaster, PRRT&HS
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Re: Crane ID Help
Charlie Vlk
All The Cullen-Friestedt Company, while the corporate offices were located in Chicago, had its plant in the former Love Brothers casting and specialty machinery plant in Aurora, Illinois. It was served by the “Alley Job” which was covered in the BRHS Burlington Bulletin No. 51. In the article there is a picture of a Model 30 logo cast into the frame bed. Charlie Vlk
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Re: Crane ID Help
Jack Mullen
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 10:56 AM, Garth Groff wrote:
I have never seen one with the name cast into a part of the frame on the cab rear, though I'm sure someone will immediately produce such an image. 🙄Ok, can do: https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_wisconsin/15269835176 Actually I cheated a bit, since that's a post steam era Burro. Note the BURRO CRANE INC. identity, c. '70s-'80s. I just couldn't resist a C&NW one. Lest you think the cast name is just a later development, how about this one, a fairly old Model 15, clearly from Cullen-Freistadt: https://jamesmcgillis.com/upload/lg/15_Cullen_Friestedt_CNYCNRS_Burro_Model_15_lg.jpg That site is worth a visit. https://moablive.com/burrocrane/default.asp One small correction, what were discussing isn't just a cast nameplate, the raised lettering is cast in the cast counterweight. Jack Mullen
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Re: Crane ID Help
Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
John, Yes, I considered that it might be a locally-built conversion. I think the crane was not self-powered, but it is hard to tell for sure from my photos. If it is a cludge, the underframe might be much older and originally had arch-bar or other early trucks, with the AAR trucks being changed during the conversion. Still, it does have a more modern brake wheel and stand, rather than an upright brake wheel and shaft. I wouldn't have expected that to change. I've never heard of the Browning marque, though the cab styles are similar. The general cab design hints at WWII to early 1950s, in keeping with the military crane. The W&W crane has some vague lettering on the A-end of the sideframe which says "xxxx 52", but it is very hard to read, and might have nothing to do with its build date. The difference in the booms might have a lot to do with the crane's capacity and intended reach. Obviously a truck-mounted crane is likely to be a lighter machine that a railroad crane. Cranes were also sometimes re-boomed, or even had extra booms for different tasks. It certainly IS NOT a Burro (at least the underframe isn't), though the cab does have some similarities. AFAIK, all Burro cranes had only four wheels (the largest were Models 40 and 50, and there are plenty of examples of these to compare with). All the Burro cranes I have seen that still had their marque, either had the name painted on, or it was on an enameled plate. I have never seen one with the name cast into a part of the frame on the cab rear, though I'm sure someone will immediately produce such an image. 🙄 Someday I will get back up to Gore to see if the crane is still there, and if so, ask permission to get close to it and also photograph the other side. I haven't been there for a number of years, and since they scrapped out their ALCOs the line has lost a lot of its appeal (one of their RS-11s was still working for the ADM elevator in Winchester just few years ago, but hard to photograph). Last week when I was in the Winchester area it was raining, so I dropped plans to drive over to Gore. Yours Aye, Garth Groff 🦆
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 9:38 AM mofwcaboose via Groups.Io <MOFWCABOOSE=AOL.COM@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Photo: Lackawanna Boxcar 12997
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
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Hi Bob, Mel, and List Member,
I notice the paint on some of the vertical boards
on the car side appear different from the rest - the boards that go through the
letters LAC of LACKAWANNA on the car 12997 further from the camera. Are these
boards that were replaced and repainted recently?
Claus Schlund
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Re: Photo: Lackawanna Boxcar 12997
mel perry
and double doors, automobile carrier or parts car? mel perry
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020, 9:50 AM Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
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Photo: Lackawanna Boxcar 12997
Photo: Lackawanna Boxcar 12997 Double-door wood sheathed with steel ends: http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-01-07-20/X7602.jpg Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Surplus Boxcar Program
Surplus Boxcar Program I was told by an old timer (he's two years older than me) that there was a government program after the First World War that enabled veterans who were farmers to purchase war surplus wooden box cars. The cost to the farmer was two dollars per car and the cars were delivered to each farm with no added cost. I know the government assisted farmers with Butler Bins during the 1930s but I never heard about the boxcar program until now. Does anyone know more about this? Thanks. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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