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Caboose restrictions c1914

Rupert Gamlen
 

I’ve found some of the individual states legislation on the construction of cabooses in the Bureau of Labor Statistics Report for 1914 at https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt/search?q1=caboose;id=hvd.hj2ajm;view=1up;seq=7  (part 1) and https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.a0004011052&view=1up&seq=9 (part 2)

Although the phraseology of the Acts is basically similar, there are wide variations in what was prescribed and permitted under the various Acts.  Of the eighteen states covered in the report, only one – New York – required steel center sills, while three or four related the construction strength of the caboose to MCB standards. There were also wide variations in the question of platforms, steps, rails and interior requirements, although all specified two four-wheel trucks. However, some Acts allowed existing equipment to be used until general repairs were required, others permitted their use in yard and local work, while the 1909 Illinois legislation provided -
          The provisions of this act shall not apply to the use of caboose cars in yard and in transfer service, nor to the use of caboose cars now owned
         by any railroad or railway company operating in this State.
At that time, there were 152 railroads (including subsidiaries and leased roads) operating in Illinois.

The report includes the legislation from Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Indiana, Arkansas, Maine, Michigan, New York, North Dakota, Ohio, Virginia, New Hampshire and Washington.

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ


 

Re: Looking for any info about Linde (CCBX) gondolas #801-815 and the containers. #801-815

Paul Woods
 

Tim, how did you get the figure of $250?  According to the website a set of 14 HO-scale containers runs at $31.50, S-scale is $73.25.  Is the freight a bit OTT?

Regards
Paul Woods
Whangarei, NZ


On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 04:17 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
Except at the prices, a load of calcium carbide containers runs about $250 or so.




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On 1/14/2020 7:08 PM, Elliot Courtney via Groups.Io wrote:
Steel mill modelers supply is producing these containers, they can be found on facebook or at http://steelmillmodelerssupply.com 

Elliot Courtney 
--
Tim O'Connor

Caboose Marker and Mars Light Question

Nelson Moyer
 

I’m building two CB&Q NE-10 waycars. The version I’m building is the modification in 1947 which added an electric wheel driven generator, battery boxes on both sides, and a wagon wheel antenna for radio communication. At some point in or after 1947, Mars lights were added to both ends. Two styles of Mars lights are included in the kit, a round housing with a smaller lens, and a larger square housing with a large lens. I’ve studied the photos in the NE-10 chapter of The Burlington Waycars by Danniel, Reis, and Dowda, and I’ve noticed waycars on some trains had both traditional lantern markers and the large square Mars lights (photos from 1962-1968), while photos taken in 1969 and 1972 show only the Mars light without markers.  At some point in the 1060s, the lantern markers were electrified as evidenced by a cord that plugged into receptacles on each side of the ends.

 

Questions

Was there a rule change after 1968 that discontinued use of traditional markers when a Mars light was used?

Where both Mars light styles actually used, and what are the dates they were first installed? All photos from the 1960s show square housings.

When were markers first electrified?

 

Answers to these questions have a practical application, as I plan to light the markers and/or Mars lights.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

Re: Need Sunshine instructions

Bob Miller
 

I’ll scan and e-mail the instructions. I’ve built that kit.


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of bill woelfel via Groups.Io <bwoelfeljr@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 1:42:21 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Need Sunshine instructions
 
Hi, I recently bought an almost completed Sunshine Models ATSF dry ice reefer kit and would like to finish it. It's model # 16.3, as rebuilt in 1949 for Spencer Chemical. I have the societies reefer book but would still like the instructions.  Thanks for any help, Regards, Bill

Need Sunshine instructions

bill woelfel
 

Hi, I recently bought an almost completed Sunshine Models ATSF dry ice reefer kit and would like to finish it. It's model # 16.3, as rebuilt in 1949 for Spencer Chemical. I have the societies reefer book but would still like the instructions.  Thanks for any help, Regards, Bill

Re: Shorty automobile car - 1913

Paul Doggett
 

Thomas 

Have you got a copy of the photo? To see what the Railway the cars (wagons over here).

Paul Doggett.  England 


On 15 Jan 2020, at 18:22, Paul Doggett via Groups.Io <paul.doggett2472@...> wrote:

Trafford Park Manchester was the first UK Ford plant opened in 1911 to make the model T 

Paul Doggett.   England 


On 15 Jan 2020, at 17:57, Thomas Evans via Groups.Io <tomkevans@...> wrote:

Some of the guys over on the Early Rail site identified it as being at the Trafford Park works in Manchester, England in 1916.
I'll go tell the Ford dealer that they messed up their caption!

Tom

Re: Shorty automobile car - 1913

Paul Doggett
 

Trafford Park Manchester was the first UK Ford plant opened in 1911 to make the model T 

Paul Doggett.   England 


On 15 Jan 2020, at 17:57, Thomas Evans via Groups.Io <tomkevans@...> wrote:

Some of the guys over on the Early Rail site identified it as being at the Trafford Park works in Manchester, England in 1916.
I'll go tell the Ford dealer that they messed up their caption!

Tom

Re: Looking for any info about Linde (CCBX) gondolas #801-815 and the containers. #801-815

Jason Kliewer
 

Thanks for all the replies.  I'll make another run at drawing all this up and see if I can get to a acceptable result.

Can't believe I didn't do a patent search as I've done that on several past projects.

Jason

Re: Shorty automobile car - 1913

Thomas Evans
 

Some of the guys over on the Early Rail site identified it as being at the Trafford Park works in Manchester, England in 1916.
I'll go tell the Ford dealer that they messed up their caption!

Tom

Re: Anyone care to guess who owns or leases this tank car

Jon Miller
 

On 1/15/2020 8:04 AM, Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) wrote:
Hi List Members,
 
Anyone care to guess who owns or leases this tank car?

    A total SWAG but as it's pole company spur maybe a creosote company tank?:-D

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, 
SPROG, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS

Re: CC&O vs CRR reporting marks

Benjamin Hom
 

Bill Welch asked:
"For some time now I have noticed that all of the Clinchfield's USRA assigned rolling stock—cabooses; 50-ton boxcars; 2-bay hoppers—carried "CC&O" reporting marks for most of their service lives if not all, certainly well into the 1950s while cars after the USRA period were stenciled "CCR." Curious if anyone knows why this was the case."

Carolina, Clinchfield & Ohio (CC&O) was leased jointly by ACL and L&N effective December 1, 1924, who operated it using the Clinchfield Railroad (CRR) as the controlling company.


Ben Hom

CC&O vs CRR reporting marks

Bill Welch
 

For some time now I have noticed that all of the Clinchfield's USRA assigned rolling stock—cabooses; 50-ton boxcars; 2-bay hoppers—carried "CC&O" reporting marks for most of their service lives if not all, certainly well into the 1950s while cars after the USRA period were stenciled "CCR." Curious if anyone knows why this was the case.

Bill Welch

Re: Help with a SP box car

Clark Propst
 

I didn't have to leave town this morning so I finished....Thought I'd finished, just remembered the cut lever...The SP mini-kit, I'll add the uncoupling lever and paint next.
I'm also attaching a model I did the week before CCB. It's an old Sunshine "Unibody" kit for a KCS rebuilt box car. I was expecting a yellow casting flat kit. To my surprise I got a C&BT kit with a couple of resin castings....I used the two castings and the carbody, the rest is from my parts stash.
CW Propst 

Anyone care to guess who owns or leases this tank car

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Anyone care to guess who owns or leases this tank car?
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 

Re: Lumber On Sleds For Loading

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Bob,
 
Thanks for the interesting image link.
 
I found that searching this site for the term "pole" (without the quote marks) turns up images of telephone pole loads on steam era freight cars - who would have thought?
 
One I found that I like is at the link below, an ACL flat being loaded in Minnesota!
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
 
 

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Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 1:19 AM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Lumber On Sleds For Loading

Lumber On Sleds For Loading

Photo Title: Loading Railroad Cars At Cloquet Lumber Company

http://collections.mnhs.org/cms/display?irn=10699359&return=brand%3Dcms%26q%3DLoading%2520railroad%2520cars

Click on "Display Larger Version" to see detail.

I was a bit surprised to see that the lumber arrived on sleds. Old timers have told me loading and unloading lumber from boxcars was a hard, dreary work. I imagine doping this in the dead of winter was even worse.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Re: Behind the UTLX Dry bulk tank car

Eric Hansmann
 

There’s a poultry car beyond the materials tower to the left of the distant boxcars, too.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of gary laakso
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 5:55 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Behind the UTLX Dry bulk tank car

 

The picture really expands nicely clicking on the picture a couple of times.  With that done, there are good views of two L&N 36 foot boxcars and a very early covered hopper. 

 

https://exploreuk.uky.edu/catalog/xt702v2c8t1s_2661_1 

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock

Re: Bunker C unloading rack

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Pete and Eric and List Members,
 
Excellent inded! Amazing what we can sometimes do with 'found' stuff! A very enjoyable read.
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 7:25 AM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Bunker C unloading rack

Pete Hall built an HO scale Bunker C unloading rack from a box of scrap parts. He shares his work in the latest Resin Car Works blog post.



Eric Hansmann
RCW web guy

Re: Cocoa Beach. Kits and loads.

Brian Carlson
 

Ben I meant to put the vendor in. It is “multiscale digital” and he is on both eBay and Shapeways. I’m not associated with him. Just a happy client. Also here are a few of Eric’s loads. 

Brian J. Carlson 

On Jan 15, 2020, at 7:11 AM, Ben Sullivan <ben.sullivan75@...> wrote:

Great report, Brian. Could you share a link to the 3D printed loads you ordered? Sounds interesting. Thx.
--
Ben Sullivan
Brookeville, MD
Modeling the Georgetown Branch of the B&O

Re: Photo: Staley Tank Cars

Tangent Scale Models
 

Tim, that is a GATC 1917-design tank.

David Lehlbach
Tangent Scale Models

Bunker C unloading rack

Eric Hansmann
 

Pete Hall built an HO scale Bunker C unloading rack from a box of scrap parts. He shares his work in the latest Resin Car Works blog post.



Eric Hansmann
RCW web guy