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Re: Cocoa Beach 2020

Brian Carlson
 

Nice post. When was there cake? First I knew was in the blog.

Roberto’s was good. My first time and I’m on the bland side of eating usually. I throughly enjoyed it.

Brian J. Carlson

On Jan 17, 2020, at 6:33 PM, Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:

 I've just posted to my blog a short description of this year's Cocoa Beach meeting, as I experienced it. If you went, you may find it brings back a memory or two; if you didn't go, this might motivate you to attend next year! If you're interested, here's the link:

https://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/2020/01/cocoa-beach-2020.html


Tony Thompson
tony@...





: NYC Depressed Center Flat 499051

Andy Carlson
 

I get my .....homishes mixed up. You are correct.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Friday, January 17, 2020, 1:59:48 PM PST, Doug Polinder via Groups.Io <mikado3399@...> wrote:


Andy, might you be referring to Snoqualmie Falls?  I'm not aware of any falls on the Snohomish River.  The Snoqualmie and Skykomish rivers converge to form the Snohomish.  The Skykomish is known to steam-era freight-car enthusiasts, of course, as the Great Northern's west-slope Cascade Mountain access to Stevens Pass and the Cascade Tunnel.

Doug Polinder
Poquoson VA
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Re: Intermountain 12 panel GN Vermillion box car details

Todd Sullivan
 

Hi Bill,

The Steam Era Freight Cars website is your friend.  See the files for different 'species' of steel boxcars created by Ed Hawkins, Ted Culotta and others, specifically the files for 10' Postwar Boxcars for these GN cars.

I believe the Intermountain kit represents GN 10900-11874 and 18000-19499, all build at St. Cloud Shops in 1948-49.  Handbrakes were Ajax or Universal, running boards were Morton, Apex or Gypsum, depending on the car series (there were about 7 series), and I think the running boards were painted Mineral Red and the trucks and underframe were black when new.  The doors also varied by series.  There are lots of online photo sources: Fallen Flags and Google images are just two.  Using Google images will get you to other sites.

Todd Sullivan.

Cocoa Beach 2020

Tony Thompson
 

I've just posted to my blog a short description of this year's Cocoa Beach meeting, as I experienced it. If you went, you may find it brings back a memory or two; if you didn't go, this might motivate you to attend next year! If you're interested, here's the link:

https://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/2020/01/cocoa-beach-2020.html


Tony Thompson
tony@...

Re: Photos: Wabash Automobile Boxcar 47194

Chet
 

I had an interesting experience with this car.  I stopped a few times to look at the car when passing through Atlanta.  On one of these occasions, I stopped and noticed two men working on
the car.  They were drilling holes and putting grab irons on the left end of the side away from the elevator.  I noticed they had already put three grabs on the car and was beginning to drill holes for a fourth grab.  I quickly told them there should only be two grabs on that end.  They said it was a good thing I stopped as they were going to put them to the top of the side like the other end.  They said they would remove the third grab, but never did.  I also sent them a palnt and lettering blueprint for the car.   The photos appear to be of the car the first time it was painted.  Since then they have replaced the siding and repainted the car.

Chet French
Dixon, IL

Re: Photo: NYC Depressed Center Flat 499051

Doug Polinder
 

Andy, might you be referring to Snoqualmie Falls?  I'm not aware of any falls on the Snohomish River.  The Snoqualmie and Skykomish rivers converge to form the Snohomish.  The Skykomish is known to steam-era freight-car enthusiasts, of course, as the Great Northern's west-slope Cascade Mountain access to Stevens Pass and the Cascade Tunnel.

Doug Polinder
Poquoson VA

Intermountain 12 panel GN Vermillion box car details

Bill McCoy
 

I picked up an old IMRC GN 12 panel boxcar kit (GN 18837, reweigh F-10-60). Some of the parts are pretty dated. There were no instructions and I have a few questions.
What hand brake was used on these cars?
What running boards were used? Was it painted or galvanized?
Were the trucks black or oxide red?
What was the underframe color?
Is there a online prototype photo source?

Thanks in advance for any help.
Bill McCoy
Jax, FL

Re: Prototype Junction Steam Era Freight Car List Special

Randy Hammill
 

Thanks, Greg - 

We're just getting started but we need a lot more support. I'm happy to answer any questions, concerns, etc. regarding the project. There are enough folks here alone to make it happen, and while I don't expect everyone will order cars, these all fit this group's era unless you are modeling pre-1929.

I don't know everybody personally here, but I know quite a few folks, and you can visit my blog to get a better understanding of my personal approach to modeling, which is to be as accurate as possible across the board. We are also approaching this project with modelers in mind, which is why we'll have lots of neat parts in addition to decorated and undecorated kits available. All things I heard modelers ask for regularly when I was working on projects for True Line and other companies. Our answer is, "absolutely," But we can only say that if the modelers step up too!

Come see us in the Better Living Center in Springfield, 25-G.

Thanks again - 

Randy

Randy Hammill
Prototype Junction
http://prototypejunction.com

Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954
http://newbritainstation.com

Photo: NYC Depressed Center Flat 499051

Andy Carlson
 

Around 2008 I was invited to look at the Snohomish hydro power plant. Built around the turn of the century with a penstock tunneled into the bedrock adjacent to the Snohomish Falls. The power turbines were at the base of the penstock tunnel and water exited into the lower Falls pond. The engineer who was kind to show the operation to me and a friend was justifiably proud that that the original wireing for the antique generator was still woven fabric cloth insulated. He was most proud, however, that an original light bulb over 100 years old was still lit 24/7. Mr Edison should be proud!
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Friday, January 17, 2020, 6:45:16 AM PST, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:


Steve,

........... When I visited the Safe Harbor Hydroelectric generating station (on the PRR’s Coukmbia and Port Deposit branch and next to the PRR’s A&S Low grade freight line) a few years ago at one of the PRRT&HS’ annual meetings, I was stunned to learn that the transformers were original to the 1930-1931 construction.
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Re: Interesting flat car loads circa 1931-32

mofwcaboose
 

Those "loads" are permanently on the cars because they are used in wire train service to maintain the overhead catenary.

John C. La Rue, Jr.
Bonita Springs, FL


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Subject: [RealSTMFC] Interesting flat car loads circa 1931-32

From Steamtown/Erie-Lackawanna site today.  Images are too washed out to read reporting marks but the loads are very interesting.
 
 
Brian Rochon
Silver Spring, MD

Re: Prototype Junction Steam Era Freight Car List Special

greg snook
 

Randy,
This looks like a really interesting project, thank you for sharing.

Hopefully you are able to reach the funding goal, it would be nice, obviously, to see more cars produced!
Greg

Re: Photo: NYC Depressed Center Flat 499051

Bruce Smith
 

Steve,

Interesting point. I’ve always thought about old transformer loads, usually in the context of an “upgrade” to an existing facility. When I visited the Safe Harbor Hydroelectric generating station (on the PRR’s Coukmbia and Port Deposit branch and next to the PRR’s A&S Low grade freight line) a few years ago at one of the PRRT&HS’ annual meetings, I was stunned to learn that the transformers were original to the 1930-1931 construction. So much for my 1944 transformer loads to the dam… What I am saying is that there may be very few reasons to ship old transformers and that this fire damaged transformer may be one of the few examples. OTOH, there are a number of examples of new transformers being delivered to the several hydroelectric stations on the PRR’s C&PD branch. These may be replacements/upgrades or they may be expansions of the facilities.

BTW, the Safe harbor dam provided electric power for the PRR’s catenary, moving freight cars, including those carrying transformers ;)

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On Jan 17, 2020, at 8:31 AM, StephenK <thekays100@...> wrote:

It's an interesting photo, for sure, and it brings up an interesting point.   All of the "big transformer" loads I have ever seen on a model railroad are of a new transformer.   This burnt  up transformer would be a unique load.

Steve Kay

Re: Photo: NYC Depressed Center Flat 499051

StephenK
 

It's an interesting photo, for sure, and it brings up an interesting point.   All of the "big transformer" loads I have ever seen on a model railroad are of a new transformer.   This burnt  up transformer would be a unique load.

Steve Kay

Re: Interesting flat car loads circa 1931-32

Doug Paasch
 

Also, notice the hoist, counterweights, and cable/pulley system to adjust the platform deck height.

DP


On Jan 17, 2020 6:30 AM, "Doug Paasch" <drpaasch@...> wrote:

Work train for stringing catenary.  One flat carries the cable reels.  The one with the "roof" is a high work platform for the electricians.

Doug Paasch


On Jan 17, 2020 6:00 AM, "Brian Rochon" <berochon@...> wrote:

From Steamtown/Erie-Lackawanna site today.  Images are too washed out to read reporting marks but the loads are very interesting.

 

http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-01-17-20/X7844.jpg

http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-01-17-20/X7845.jpg

http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-01-17-20/X7846.jpg

 

Brian Rochon

Silver Spring, MD

Re: Interesting flat car loads circa 1931-32

Doug Paasch
 

Work train for stringing catenary.  One flat carries the cable reels.  The one with the "roof" is a high work platform for the electricians.

Doug Paasch


On Jan 17, 2020 6:00 AM, "Brian Rochon" <berochon@...> wrote:

From Steamtown/Erie-Lackawanna site today.  Images are too washed out to read reporting marks but the loads are very interesting.

 

http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-01-17-20/X7844.jpg

http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-01-17-20/X7845.jpg

http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-01-17-20/X7846.jpg

 

Brian Rochon

Silver Spring, MD

Interesting flat car loads circa 1931-32

Brian Rochon
 

From Steamtown/Erie-Lackawanna site today.  Images are too washed out to read reporting marks but the loads are very interesting.

 

http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-01-17-20/X7844.jpg

http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-01-17-20/X7845.jpg

http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-01-17-20/X7846.jpg

 

Brian Rochon

Silver Spring, MD

Re: D&H 36-footer

Greg Bartek
 

Wow, phenomenal craftsmanship and modeling!! Stunning work Bill, thanks for posting.

Greg Bartek

Re: Shorty automobile car - 1913

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
 

Friends,

Though it might seem surprising, Henry built a lot of his Model T autos in England. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_of_Britain . The photo in question is probably from the Trafford Park plant near Manchester, based on the design features of the cars. The more famous site at Dagenham dates to 1929.

Great Britain was a booming market. Several vintage Fords including a Model T truck can be noted in the Downton Abbey TV series. That is, if you can tear your eyes away from the Rolls Royces, Bentleys and those marvelous racing cars (which include a racing Bentley, along with a Bugatti). On one of the videos (season six, IIRC), there is even a special feature on the autos.

I learned to drive in an English Ford, a four-door 1962 Consul model 315 (an export model with the drive on the left, per US standards). Our Ford was similar to the flying car in the Harry Potter movies. My first car was a slightly smaller two-door 1957/1958 Ford Anglia, pieced together from two wrecks in someone's garage. Neither of these Fords could fly.

Yours Aye,

Garth Groff  🦆


On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 12:12 AM Patrick Wade <patwadesb@...> wrote:
The car on the loading ramp appears to have the steering wheel on the right, England?

Pat Wade
Santa Barbara

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 5:58 PM Thomas Evans via Groups.Io <tomkevans=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Paul,

Here's a link to the photo as posted over on the early rail site.

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/331880/394918.jpg

The one at the dealer is the same although somewhat cropped.

Tom

Re: Shorty automobile car - 1913

Patrick Wade
 

The car on the loading ramp appears to have the steering wheel on the right, England?

Pat Wade
Santa Barbara

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 5:58 PM Thomas Evans via Groups.Io <tomkevans=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Paul,

Here's a link to the photo as posted over on the early rail site.

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/331880/394918.jpg

The one at the dealer is the same although somewhat cropped.

Tom

Re: Shorty automobile car - 1913

Thomas Evans
 

Here is a link to the photo as posted over on the Early Rail site:

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/331880/394918.jpg

The one at the dealer is the same although somewhat cropped.

Tom