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Re: Plastic Pipe "T"s cored for .012 brass wire

Curt Fortenberry
 

 

I believe Trout Creek took over the brass parts from the old Tomalco line.  they had some. 


Curt Fortenberry 


Re: RF&F Sand Hopper

Richard Townsend
 

I just dug out my “Richmond, Fredericksburg & Potomac in Color” and there’s an almost square on shot of RF&P 14 on page 124.

On Jan 19, 2020, at 8:00 AM, Richard Townsend via Groups.Io <richtownsend=netscape.net@groups.io> wrote:

Mike Bradley and Jim Six had an article on building B&LE two-bay hoppers using the Athearn offset side hopper and MDC trucks. It was in the July 1990 Model Railroading.
On Jan 19, 2020, at 6:48 AM, David via Groups.Io <jaydeet2001=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

RF&P 16 was one of series 11-18, conversions of the series 7001-7062 70-ton twin hoppers RF&P bought secondhand from B&LE in 1972 to replace its steam-era hopper fleet.

David Thompson





Photo: LV Boxcar 72286

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: LV Boxcar 72286

Circa 1905 photo:

https://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2016804745/

Click on one of the "View Larger" tabs to see this car in detail.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Unloading Fruit From A Livestock Car

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Unloading Fruit From A Livestock Car

Circa 1920 photo of another use for a livestock car:

https://calisphere.org/item/6b72bf20ae08e9ac37dc6518e2fdb783/

Caption: "Workers from Richmond-Chase canning company unloading crates of fruit from railroad cars."

Use the slider to enlarge the photo.

The car belongs to Galveston, Harrisburg & San Antonio Railway, which I believe was a Southern Pacific subsidiary in Texas and Louisiana.

The car tag is almost readable and maybe reads "This car was ____ ____ and disinfected".

The Richmond-Chase Company became one of the primary fruit canning giants in Santa Clara County, CA. The company maintained four major packing and canning plants in San Jose, and had other agricultural operations in central California, as well as owning several orchards.

Plant, circa 1920:

http://digitalcollections.sjlibrary.org/cdm/ref/collection/sjsurc/id/21

Shows several boxcars (at least one SP) apparently loaded with empty cans.

Use the slider to enlarge the photo.

I can't determine if the SP livestock car has a load of cans.

Shipping ready-to-fill cans was not uncommon at one time:

https://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2017782124/

Bob Chaparro

Moderator

Railway Bull Shippers Group

https://groups.io/g/RailwayBullShippersGroup


Re: Plastic Pipe "T"s cored for .012 brass wire

steve_wintner
 

Didn't someone on Shapeways make those?

A suggestion - if you solder .012 wire into .015 cored tees, the solder will tend to center the wires. Then you could proceed to bend, trim, etc?

Steve


Re: Intermountain 12 panel GN Vermillion box car details

Staffan Ehnbom
 

Hi Bill,
I don't know of any reference to mineral red running boards on vermilion cars. The mineral red trucks and underbody go with vermilion schemes with billboard Empire Builder and slant serif lettering.

Staffan

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 4:43 PM Bill McCoy <wpmccoy@...> wrote:
Hi Steffan, Thanks. Did the mineral red trucks, running board and under body apply on both the Empire Builder and later billboard Great Northern lettering schemes?

Thanks for your help.

Bill McCoy 


Looking for Jim Eager's EMail

Bill McCoy
 

Anybody have the E Mail address for Jim Eager, Toronto, Jim is a great inter modal expert from ins inception.

Bill McCoy, Jax


Re: RF&F Sand Hopper

Richard Townsend
 

Mike Bradley and Jim Six had an article on building B&LE two-bay hoppers using the Athearn offset side hopper and MDC trucks. It was in the July 1990 Model Railroading.

On Jan 19, 2020, at 6:48 AM, David via Groups.Io <jaydeet2001=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

RF&P 16 was one of series 11-18, conversions of the series 7001-7062 70-ton twin hoppers RF&P bought secondhand from B&LE in 1972 to replace its steam-era hopper fleet.

David Thompson



Re: Intermountain 12 panel GN Vermillion box car details

Bill McCoy
 

Hi Steffan, Thanks. Did the mineral red trucks, running board and under body apply on both the Empire Builder and later billboard Great Northern lettering schemes?

Thanks for your help.

Bill McCoy 


RF&F Sand Hopper

David
 

RF&P 16 was one of series 11-18, conversions of the series 7001-7062 70-ton twin hoppers RF&P bought secondhand from B&LE in 1972 to replace its steam-era hopper fleet.

David Thompson


Re: Plastic Pipe "T"s cored for .012 brass wire

Thomas Evans
 

It seems to me that Utah Pacific once made these in brass, but not cored. - Tom


Re: Santa Fe Tank Car 100801 upgrade

Paul Doggett
 

Yes a really nice job Lester.
Paul Doggett.  England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 19 Jan 2020, at 14:19, Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:


Great work, Lester! That's a neat tip on casting a tank car dome. Thanks for sharing!


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On January 18, 2020 at 8:02 PM Lester Breuer <rforailroad@...> wrote:

I have upgraded Santa Fe tank car 100801 with a resin cast dome and other details.  If you are interested as to why and how, photos and writeup of the upgrade process including paint and weathering are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you would like to take a look please do at the following link:

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/

Lester Breuer


Re: Santa Fe Tank Car 100801 upgrade

Eric Hansmann
 

Great work, Lester! That's a neat tip on casting a tank car dome. Thanks for sharing!


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On January 18, 2020 at 8:02 PM Lester Breuer <rforailroad@...> wrote:

I have upgraded Santa Fe tank car 100801 with a resin cast dome and other details.  If you are interested as to why and how, photos and writeup of the upgrade process including paint and weathering are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you would like to take a look please do at the following link:

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/

Lester Breuer


Plastic Pipe "T"s cored for .012 brass wire

Bill McCoy
 

I have a project that has a need for joining .012 wire in a "T". some time back there were plastic pipe joints but I can't remember who made them. MY LHS thinks it was Utah Pacific but there's nothing on their web site. Same for Plasti-Struct and Evergreen. Precision make a brass "T" cored for .015 but that may be a sloppy fit.This is a locomotive (SD9) project and some brake piping details on freight cars...
Any help on where to find them will be appreciated.  

Bill McCoy, Jax


Re: Intermountain 12 panel GN Vermillion box car details

Staffan Ehnbom
 

The photo of GN18108 on Fallen Flags shows remains of vermilion paint on the roof.


On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 12:58 AM Todd Sullivan via Groups.Io <sullivant41=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Bill,

The Steam Era Freight Cars website is your friend.  See the files for different 'species' of steel boxcars created by Ed Hawkins, Ted Culotta and others, specifically the files for 10' Postwar Boxcars for these GN cars.

I believe the Intermountain kit represents GN 10900-11874 and 18000-19499, all build at St. Cloud Shops in 1948-49.  Handbrakes were Ajax or Universal, running boards were Morton, Apex or Gypsum, depending on the car series (there were about 7 series), and I think the running boards were painted Mineral Red and the trucks and underframe were black when new.  The doors also varied by series.  There are lots of online photo sources: Fallen Flags and Google images are just two.  Using Google images will get you to other sites.

Todd Sullivan.


Re: Intermountain 12 panel GN Vermillion box car details

Staffan Ehnbom
 

Vermilion GN cars had mineral red trucks and underbody.

Staffan Ehnbom

On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 12:58 AM Todd Sullivan via Groups.Io <sullivant41=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Bill,

The Steam Era Freight Cars website is your friend.  See the files for different 'species' of steel boxcars created by Ed Hawkins, Ted Culotta and others, specifically the files for 10' Postwar Boxcars for these GN cars.

I believe the Intermountain kit represents GN 10900-11874 and 18000-19499, all build at St. Cloud Shops in 1948-49.  Handbrakes were Ajax or Universal, running boards were Morton, Apex or Gypsum, depending on the car series (there were about 7 series), and I think the running boards were painted Mineral Red and the trucks and underframe were black when new.  The doors also varied by series.  There are lots of online photo sources: Fallen Flags and Google images are just two.  Using Google images will get you to other sites.

Todd Sullivan.


RF&F Sand Hopper

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
 

Friends,

I would like to offer two photos of a most unusual RF&P covered hopper for your approval and commentary. The car is RF&P 14, apparently used in company sand service. While numbered in the RF&P maintenance fleet, it still was obviously sent off line.

This car is an apparent conversion of a standard open hopper. In 1954 the RF&P had 96 hoppers from three groups in revenue service. While I can't be sure, it is probably a conversion of one of these cars. Note the most unusual trucks, that appear to have outside brake hangers. AFAIK from the photo, the hangers are not used, but they may point to the origins of this car if it was bought used by the RF&P. Can any of you comment upon the origin of the car, and its possible conversion date? Were there any more of these cars? What are these trucks called?

I shot the car around 1987 on the Dixon Sand Co. loading track in Dillwyn, Virginia. Dixon Sand was a Kyanite Corporation subsidiary, the sand being a by-product of their mining operation on near-by Willis Mountain (ore and sand both delivered to the railhead by truck). Apparently Dixon sold sand to the RF&P and the Chessie System for locomotives. Dillwyn was at the end of the former C&O Buckingham Subdivision, now the Buckingham Branch Railroad. The spur and loader are still there, but have not been active for many years.

My apologies for the oblique angle on the car. As I remember it, there was a steep drop off to my left, and I couldn't get a straight view of the whole car side. Except for the truck photo, all shots I took of  the various cars on this spur over the years are from approximately the same spot, a grade crossing.

Yours Aye,

Mungo Napier, Laird of Mallard Lodge  🦆


Re: WP Rebuilt Boxcar

Greg Martin
 

Gary and All,

There is a very thorough breakdown of these cars and there were two separate doner cars from WP inventory on the Shake N Take site if you're signed up. 

Greg Martin 


-----Original Message-----
From: gary laakso <vasa0vasa@...>
To: RealSTMFC <RealSTMFC@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Jan 12, 2020 6:20 am
Subject: [RealSTMFC] WP Rebuilt Boxcar

Here is a fine picture of a rebuilt WP boxcar:
 
 
Gary Laakso
Northwest of Mike Brock

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Hey Boss,


Somehow I got deleted from this group in late May. I guess someone didn't like me. Jail is a lonely place.

Greg Martin 


Santa Fe Tank Car 100801 upgrade

Lester Breuer
 

I have upgraded Santa Fe tank car 100801 with a resin cast dome and other details.  If you are interested as to why and how, photos and writeup of the upgrade process including paint and weathering are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you would like to take a look please do at the following link:

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/

Lester Breuer


Re: ARA / AAR Standard Letters and Figures for Freight Car Marking

Dave Parker
 

I am not sure that I am completely following the discussion here, but it is a topic that has come up before.  At the risk of repeating myself, the "standard" MCB/ARA/AAR Roman letter diagram dates to 1906.  I have seen it reproduced a number of time in several places, and it always contains just three letters (M,C,B) and three numerals (2,7,8).  If anybody as ever seen a more comprehensive character set, I would be glad to learn of it.  But, based on what I have seen, no railroad could have actually conformed to standardized MCB/ARA/AAR lettering because it didn't exist  -- beyond those six example characters that seem only to convey a rather general style of lettering that was adopted as an industry standard.
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Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA

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