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Re: ARA / AAR Standard Letters and Figures for Freight Car Marking

Tony Thompson
 

Curt Fortenberry wrote:

Here's the CNW stencil from 1929.  Was for 3" letters so presumable for CAPY lettering and such.  The CNW drew full size letters, 9", but only for the letters they needed, not a full alphabet. 

   Thanks, Curt, exactly what was needed. These characters DO NOT match the MCB-ARA-AAR letters. The "M" in particular is much more condensed. One would need to look at the drawings for other sizes to be sure, but these 3-inch letters certainly are not exactly the ARA lettering.

Tony Thompson




Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR G22 question

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Bill;

I have not seen one. The closest is the 70-ton Crown from Bowser.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of WILLIAM PARDIE
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 1:04 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR G22 question

Is there a correct 100 ton truck available in HO?

Bill Pardie



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: "Gatwood, Elden J SAD" <elden.j.gatwood@usace.army.mil>
Date: 1/21/20 5:27 AM (GMT-10:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR G22 question

Guys;

I believe PRR did a small number of G22B with mesh flooring to minimize the effects of cement build up, but they did not do this on most or all G22B. It is a cool look, but not necessary on your models. They also did an interior that included container "dunnage" to keep the containers in place, like so:

Here are some other container photos.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 9:57 AM
To: STMFC <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR G22 question

Hi Bruce, Nelson, Stic, and List Members,


I was under the impression that the G22b had openings in the gon floor to allow debris to fall to the tracks, making them more suitable for container service. This can be seen in the images of the Traincat G22b kit linked below.

BlockedBlockedhttp://www.traincat2.com/d_gondola.htm

Am I in error? Is the Traincat kit in error?


Claus Schlund



----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Smith <mailto:smithbf@auburn.edu>
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <mailto:main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR G22 question

Stic,

Correct. I believe that the only visible difference is are the 100 ton trucks on the G22B versus the 70 ton Crown trucks on the other subclasses, and, of course, the CAPY, LT WT, and LD LMT stencils, in addition to the subclass stencil.


Regards

Bruce




Bruce F. Smith

Auburn, AL

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."





On Jan 21, 2020, at 8:10 AM, Stic Harris <sticdvm@gmail.com <mailto:sticdvm@gmail.com> > wrote:

Good morning smart freight car folk,

I know we've had previous discussion on the PRR G22 flat cars, but I've been unable to find an answer to my question.

Besides the trucks, which I know were upgraded, and the stencil indicating the type and capacity of the car, is there any structural or visual difference between the original G22 gondola and the G22B gondola?

That is, if I change the trucks and decals, can I create an accurate G22B from a G22 model?

Thanks in advance for any information,

Stic Harris


--



- Stic


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR G22 question

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

Is there a correct 100 ton truck available in HO?

Bill Pardie



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: "Gatwood, Elden J SAD" <elden.j.gatwood@...>
Date: 1/21/20 5:27 AM (GMT-10:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR G22 question

Guys;

I believe PRR did a small number of G22B with mesh flooring to minimize the effects of cement build up, but they did not do this on most or all G22B.  It is a cool look, but not necessary on your models. They also did an interior that included container "dunnage" to keep the containers in place, like so:

Here are some other container photos.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 9:57 AM
To: STMFC <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR G22 question

Hi Bruce, Nelson, Stic, and List Members,


I was under the impression that the G22b had openings in the gon floor to allow debris to fall to the tracks, making them more suitable for container service. This can be seen in the images of the Traincat G22b kit linked below.

Blockedhttp://www.traincat2.com/d_gondola.htm

Am I in error? Is the Traincat kit in error?


Claus Schlund



----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Smith <mailto:smithbf@...>
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <mailto:main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR G22 question

Stic,

Correct. I believe that the only visible difference is are the 100 ton trucks on the G22B versus the 70 ton Crown trucks on the other subclasses, and, of course, the CAPY, LT WT, and LD LMT stencils, in addition to the subclass stencil.


Regards

Bruce




Bruce F. Smith

Auburn, AL

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."





On Jan 21, 2020, at 8:10 AM, Stic Harris <sticdvm@... <mailto:sticdvm@...> > wrote:

Good morning smart freight car folk,

I know we've had previous discussion on the PRR G22 flat cars, but I've been unable to find an answer to my question.

Besides the trucks, which I know were upgraded, and the stencil indicating the type and capacity of the car, is there any structural or visual difference between the original G22 gondola and the G22B gondola?

That is, if I change the trucks and decals, can I create an accurate G22B from a G22 model?

Thanks in advance for any information,

Stic Harris


--



- Stic







Re: ARA / AAR Standard Letters and Figures for Freight Car Marking

Curt Fortenberry
 


Here's the CNW stencil from 1929.  Was for 3" letters so presumable for CAPY lettering and such.  The CNW drew full size letters, 9", but only for the letters they needed, not a full alphabet. 

Curt Fortenberry


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR G22 question

Stic Harris
 

Thank you all!
Much appreciate the information. And Elden, these photos are gold.
I actually have a set of the Westerfield containers to build and would like to put them in a G22B, so no one will know if my gondola happens to have/not have grates on the bottom.
My understanding is that Westerfield no longer makes the G22s. I've seen several G22s on eBay, but no G22Bs. 
So planning on building a G22 and replacing the trucks/stencils with my containers covering the bottom.

Again, many thanks for the group knowledge,

Stic



On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 10:33 AM Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:
Guys;

I believe PRR did a small number of G22B with mesh flooring to minimize the effects of cement build up, but they did not do this on most or all G22B.  It is a cool look, but not necessary on your models. They also did an interior that included container "dunnage" to keep the containers in place, like so:

Here are some other container photos.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 9:57 AM
To: STMFC <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR G22 question

Hi Bruce, Nelson, Stic, and List Members,


I was under the impression that the G22b had openings in the gon floor to allow debris to fall to the tracks, making them more suitable for container service. This can be seen in the images of the Traincat G22b kit linked below.

Blockedhttp://www.traincat2.com/d_gondola.htm

Am I in error? Is the Traincat kit in error?


Claus Schlund



        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Bruce Smith <mailto:smithbf@...>
        To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <mailto:main@realstmfc.groups.io>
        Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 9:43 AM
        Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR G22 question

        Stic,

        Correct. I believe that the only visible difference is are the 100 ton trucks on the G22B versus the 70 ton Crown trucks on the other subclasses, and, of course, the CAPY, LT WT, and LD LMT stencils, in addition to the subclass stencil.


        Regards

        Bruce




        Bruce F. Smith

        Auburn, AL

        "Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."





                On Jan 21, 2020, at 8:10 AM, Stic Harris <sticdvm@... <mailto:sticdvm@...> > wrote:

                Good morning smart freight car folk,

                I know we've had previous discussion on the PRR G22 flat cars, but I've been unable to find an answer to my question.

                Besides the trucks, which I know were upgraded, and the stencil indicating the type and capacity of the car, is there any structural or visual difference between the original G22 gondola and the G22B gondola?

                That is, if I change the trucks and decals, can I create an accurate G22B from a G22 model?

                Thanks in advance for any information,

                Stic Harris


                --



                - Stic








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- Stic


Re: PRR G22 question

Nelson Moyer
 

The Westerfield Data Sheet mentions the drop doors in the floor, and said that the G22 and G22B both had them. The kit floor had the drop doors molded in the closed position. I think the G22B class was based solely on the truck upgrade which increased the tonnage.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 8:57 AM
To: STMFC <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR G22 question

 

Hi Bruce, Nelson, Stic, and List Members,

 

 

I was under the impression that the G22b had openings in the gon floor to allow debris to fall to the tracks, making them more suitable for container service. This can be seen in the images of the Traincat G22b kit linked below.

 

 

Am I in error? Is the Traincat kit in error?

 

 

Claus Schlund

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bruce Smith

Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 9:43 AM

Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR G22 question

 

Stic,

 

Correct. I believe that the only visible difference is are the 100 ton trucks on the G22B versus the 70 ton Crown trucks on the other subclasses, and, of course, the CAPY, LT WT, and LD LMT stencils, in addition to the subclass stencil.

 

Regards

Bruce

 

Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."

 

 



On Jan 21, 2020, at 8:10 AM, Stic Harris <sticdvm@...> wrote:

 

Good morning smart freight car folk,

 

I know we've had previous discussion on the PRR G22 flat cars, but I've been unable to find an answer to my question.

 

Besides the trucks, which I know were upgraded, and the stencil indicating the type and capacity of the car, is there any structural or visual difference between the original G22 gondola and the G22B gondola?

 

That is, if I change the trucks and decals, can I create an accurate G22B from a G22 model?

 

Thanks in advance for any information,

 

Stic Harris

 

--

 

 

- Stic

 


Re: Photo: Replacement siding on a reefer

Bob Chaparro
 

Notice the boot scuff marks. This is a good detail for weathering

Here is another example of scuff marks made by boots. https://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2016873160/

Use the "View Larger" tab to enlarge the photo.

Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR G22 question

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Guys;

I believe PRR did a small number of G22B with mesh flooring to minimize the effects of cement build up, but they did not do this on most or all G22B. It is a cool look, but not necessary on your models. They also did an interior that included container "dunnage" to keep the containers in place, like so:

Here are some other container photos.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 9:57 AM
To: STMFC <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR G22 question

Hi Bruce, Nelson, Stic, and List Members,


I was under the impression that the G22b had openings in the gon floor to allow debris to fall to the tracks, making them more suitable for container service. This can be seen in the images of the Traincat G22b kit linked below.

Blockedhttp://www.traincat2.com/d_gondola.htm

Am I in error? Is the Traincat kit in error?


Claus Schlund



----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Smith <mailto:smithbf@auburn.edu>
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <mailto:main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR G22 question

Stic,

Correct. I believe that the only visible difference is are the 100 ton trucks on the G22B versus the 70 ton Crown trucks on the other subclasses, and, of course, the CAPY, LT WT, and LD LMT stencils, in addition to the subclass stencil.


Regards

Bruce




Bruce F. Smith

Auburn, AL

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."





On Jan 21, 2020, at 8:10 AM, Stic Harris <sticdvm@gmail.com <mailto:sticdvm@gmail.com> > wrote:

Good morning smart freight car folk,

I know we've had previous discussion on the PRR G22 flat cars, but I've been unable to find an answer to my question.

Besides the trucks, which I know were upgraded, and the stencil indicating the type and capacity of the car, is there any structural or visual difference between the original G22 gondola and the G22B gondola?

That is, if I change the trucks and decals, can I create an accurate G22B from a G22 model?

Thanks in advance for any information,

Stic Harris


--



- Stic


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] PRR G22 question

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Stic;

The G22 isn't a flat car, but the rest of what you mentioned seems like questions about the G22 gon, so here goes:

I know we've had previous discussion on the PRR G22 flat cars, but I've been unable to find an answer to my question.
Besides the trucks, which I know were upgraded, and the stencil indicating the type and capacity of the car, is there any structural or visual difference between the original G22 gondola and the G22B gondola? That is, if I change the trucks and decals, can I create an accurate G22B from a G22 model?

The G22 had 2 additional end ribs added to the single horizontal end rib, above and below the original. No changes were made to sides or underframe. The trucks were the primary mod done to raise the weight capacity of the car. The G22B was spun off to serve as the basis for a number of container cars, of which there were 100-ton 12 container cars, with either PRR-built containers, or Youngstown-built corrugated hopper bottom containers, and a 70-ton version with 8 containers. Some few G22B had mesh flooring, to prevent cement build up, but most were solid floor cars. The Bowser "Crown" truck is a nice model, although a bit light for the 100-ton version. Yes, a G22 model is a good base for a G22B. I like the Westerfield model, but there are others.

Elden Gatwood


Thanks in advance for any information,

Stic Harris


--



- Stic


Re: PRR G22 question

Bruce Smith
 

Claus,

I’ve never seen photographic confirmation of these openings. Elden does not mention them in the TKM (#6) article on these cars. I will note that my statement was a bit overly broad as the G22 were originally build with hoppers. That, and the presence of the drop ends on the G22A are “off my radar” because both were essentially gone by 1941, so while you definitely care, I chronically forget these early cars. I have to wonder if TrainCat wasn’t working off of an original G22 drawing...

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."




On Jan 21, 2020, at 8:57 AM, Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) <claus@...> wrote:

Hi Bruce, Nelson, Stic, and List Members,
 
 
I was under the impression that the G22b had openings in the gon floor to allow debris to fall to the tracks, making them more suitable for container service. This can be seen in the images of the Traincat G22b kit linked below.
 
 
Am I in error? Is the Traincat kit in error?
 
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR G22 question

Stic, 

Correct. I believe that the only visible difference is are the 100 ton trucks on the G22B versus the 70 ton Crown trucks on the other subclasses, and, of course, the CAPY, LT WT, and LD LMT stencils, in addition to the subclass stencil.

Regards
Bruce

Bruce F. Smith            
Auburn, AL
"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."




On Jan 21, 2020, at 8:10 AM, Stic Harris <sticdvm@...> wrote:

Good morning smart freight car folk, 

I know we've had previous discussion on the PRR G22 flat cars, but I've been unable to find an answer to my question.

Besides the trucks, which I know were upgraded, and the stencil indicating the type and capacity of the car, is there any structural or visual difference between the original G22 gondola and the G22B gondola?

That is, if I change the trucks and decals, can I create an accurate G22B from a G22 model?

Thanks in advance for any information,

Stic Harris

-- 


- Stic



Re: PRR G22 question

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi Bruce, Nelson, Stic, and List Members,
 
 
I was under the impression that the G22b had openings in the gon floor to allow debris to fall to the tracks, making them more suitable for container service. This can be seen in the images of the Traincat G22b kit linked below.
 
 
Am I in error? Is the Traincat kit in error?
 
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR G22 question

Stic,

Correct. I believe that the only visible difference is are the 100 ton trucks on the G22B versus the 70 ton Crown trucks on the other subclasses, and, of course, the CAPY, LT WT, and LD LMT stencils, in addition to the subclass stencil.

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."




On Jan 21, 2020, at 8:10 AM, Stic Harris <sticdvm@...> wrote:

Good morning smart freight car folk,

I know we've had previous discussion on the PRR G22 flat cars, but I've been unable to find an answer to my question.

Besides the trucks, which I know were upgraded, and the stencil indicating the type and capacity of the car, is there any structural or visual difference between the original G22 gondola and the G22B gondola?

That is, if I change the trucks and decals, can I create an accurate G22B from a G22 model?

Thanks in advance for any information,

Stic Harris

--


- Stic


Re: PRR G22 question

Bruce Smith
 

Stic,

Correct. I believe that the only visible difference is are the 100 ton trucks on the G22B versus the 70 ton Crown trucks on the other subclasses, and, of course, the CAPY, LT WT, and LD LMT stencils, in addition to the subclass stencil.

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."




On Jan 21, 2020, at 8:10 AM, Stic Harris <sticdvm@...> wrote:

Good morning smart freight car folk,

I know we've had previous discussion on the PRR G22 flat cars, but I've been unable to find an answer to my question.

Besides the trucks, which I know were upgraded, and the stencil indicating the type and capacity of the car, is there any structural or visual difference between the original G22 gondola and the G22B gondola?

That is, if I change the trucks and decals, can I create an accurate G22B from a G22 model?

Thanks in advance for any information,

Stic Harris

--


- Stic


Re: PRR G22 question

Nelson Moyer
 

The Westerfield kit builds either the G22 or G22B, but not the drop end G22A.Decals for both the G22 and G22B were in my kit.  I’ll leave it to the PRR faithful to provide the differences, since my documentation isn’t immediately available. The kit I built was one of the original brittle resin kits. Hopefully you have one of the new kits.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stic Harris
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 8:10 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] PRR G22 question

 

Good morning smart freight car folk,

 

I know we've had previous discussion on the PRR G22 flat cars, but I've been unable to find an answer to my question.

 

Besides the trucks, which I know were upgraded, and the stencil indicating the type and capacity of the car, is there any structural or visual difference between the original G22 gondola and the G22B gondola?

 

That is, if I change the trucks and decals, can I create an accurate G22B from a G22 model?

 

Thanks in advance for any information,

 

Stic Harris

 

--

 

 

- Stic


PRR G22 question

Stic Harris
 

Good morning smart freight car folk,

I know we've had previous discussion on the PRR G22 flat cars, but I've been unable to find an answer to my question.

Besides the trucks, which I know were upgraded, and the stencil indicating the type and capacity of the car, is there any structural or visual difference between the original G22 gondola and the G22B gondola?

That is, if I change the trucks and decals, can I create an accurate G22B from a G22 model?

Thanks in advance for any information,

Stic Harris

--


- Stic


Re: Photo: Replacement siding on a reefer

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Friends,

Also take note of the CNR eight-hatch reefer in the background.

Yours Aye,

Mungo Napier, Laird of Mallard Lodge  🦆


On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 9:36 PM Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...> wrote:
Also a new ladder, the result of a classic "cornering" collision, I'm sure.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/mit-libraries/3441330455/in/album-72157614966285159/

Dennis Storzek


Re: ARA / AAR Standard Letters and Figures for Freight Car Marking

Bob Webber
 

I admittedly haven't paid much attention.  But... The Pullman library has complete sets of lettering or stenciling drawings for a lot of cars from 1890s on. As does the acf collection in st Louis.

I doubt you're going to see a standard set aside from by customer.  If there were a common set, why would so many cars have their own specifications and drawing sets.  Yes, some do reference standard drawings, but they are railroad specific standards, not aar, ncb, Ara or other organization.  There are common usra and USA sets.

That is always a frustration... The drawing simply says per railway standards.   Having said that, there are brake, cylinder, truck, capy and other stencil drawings by railroad car, or by railroad... And specifies type of car(s) and lot.  

Smaller roads are more likely to see full sets, systems typically refer to system standards,  large railroads a combination.

I recall the data sets by champ... Rr Roman data.  But inevitably, applying them to cars was a compromise as the set wasn't quite right in some dimension compared to photos.   Or the car was already compromised... Board width being somewhat inaccurate.



Re: ARA / AAR Standard Letters and Figures for Freight Car Marking

Dave Parker
 

Charlie:

I would be as happy as anybody to see a complete character set unearthed, but I remain dubious that one exists -- at least for the MCB/ARA years (the AAR is in the future for me).  There are several reasons for this. Here is the relevant text from the Special Ballot in the 1906 MCB Proceedings (pp. 547-548):



On the one hand, while "until a full set of drawings could be submitted" is suggestive, we can't know what is meant by "full", nor whether this objective was actually ever achieved.

On the other, the language in (1) "of the designs" can be interpreted to mean in the general style shown in the attached drawing.  Unfortunately, as is often the case with Google digitizations, the drawing itself cannot be consulted here.  But, in the adopted Recommended Practice on page 660, we are referred to Sheet M going forward.

In 1911, the practice was elevated to Standard, and the relevant drawing became Sheet 27.  By the time of the 1918 MCB Drawings of  Standards and Recommended Practices (which should be the gold standard here), the drawing had been renumbered to 26B.  It, like every iteration of this drawing that I can track down, shows just the three letters (M,C,B) and three numerals (2,7, 8).

My take is that the primary intent of the 1906 ballot measure was (1) to push every railroad towards a similar, but not identical, typeface, i.e., a Roman one exemplified by the drawing of just six characters, and (2), to standardize the lettering sizes at 1,2,4,7, and 9 inches, and to specify what size to use where on the car.  Until someone can produce an actual drawing showing all 36 alphanumeric characters, that is the only explanation that is supported by the available evidence (IMO).

--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


Photo: Replacement siding on a reefer

Dennis Storzek
 

Also a new ladder, the result of a classic "cornering" collision, I'm sure.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/mit-libraries/3441330455/in/album-72157614966285159/

Dennis Storzek


Photo: PRR Boxcar 104817

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: PRR Boxcar 104817

Circa 1956 photo:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/mit-libraries/3442157274/in/album-72157614966285159/

Not anything special. Just a nod to you PRR fans.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Branchline Blueprint 50-foot variations

rdgbuff56
 

I have added the original Branchline Freight Catalog to page 5 of file section of MFCL@....

Photos of all the types and roadnames.

Francis A. Pehowic, Jr.

On Monday, January 20, 2020, 8:15:10 AM EST, Bill Welch <fgexbill@...> wrote:


[Edited Message Follows]

I need a reminder please regarding the Branchline Blueprint 50-foot boxcars in terms of the variations. I know they produced an 8-foot door car and an insulated car w/a sliding flush door. Note, I am not interested in the more modern cars they did, only the ones that would have the Improved Dreadnaught end variations.

Did they do a 9-foot door or any double door examples? Did the do any with a lower straight side sill?

Thank you
Bill Welch

18441 - 18460 of 187848