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Re: Does anyone use resin brake components?

Bill Welch
 

I have about 30-40 Grandt Line AB sets left from a bulk order a few years ago that I save for special models self defined. Sunshine enclosed Bowser/Cal-Scale and Terry Wegman's sets and I use those. But I have several resin sets that have been given me that I use for not-so-special models self-defined plus I use the Westerfield sets whenever possible.

Bill Welch


Re: Does anyone use resin brake components?

greg snook
 

For me, it depends on the car.  Decently deep side sill?  Resin air brakes will be used, no need to add to the cost of a kit if it won't be seen in any reasonable operating scenario.
Cheers,
Greg Snook



Re: Does anyone use resin brake components?

Todd Sullivan
 

It depends.  If the resin brake parts are well molded (and demolded), I'll use them.  If they are not, or are not accurate or true to the prototype parts, I'll substitute plastic parts.

Todd Sullivan.


Re: Does anyone use resin brake components?

Steve SANDIFER
 

I don’t use the brake details. Many are distorted anyway. I use plastic.

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Madden via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 1:51 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Does anyone use resin brake components?

 

On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 10:51 AM, Ron Merrick wrote:

I've taken to substituting more and more plastic parts on resin kits lately, like brake gear and roofwalks, where they're appropriate.  The one-piece F&C cars have meant that I don't need to find plastic roofs or ends, which I've even done on some of the more modern Sunshine prototypes.

An interesting point, which I wonder about every time I demold detail sheets for Resin Car Works kits. Does anyone actually use those resin brake cylinders, air reservoirs and triple valves included on the sheets of detail parts in many resin kits? They are very difficult to extract from a mold without tearing either the mold or the detail sheet. It's like trying to pull billiard balls through buttonholes. My defect rate on detail sheets is roughly 10%, compared to 1% to 2% for car bodies and frames/underframes. It keeps the kit price down when you don't have to buy parts from another manufacturer, but if those three components are only placeholders that give the illusion of completeness to the kit, and no one actually uses them, it might be time to reconsider.

Tom Madden


Prototype Junction at the Amherst Railroad Hobby Show

John Drake
 

Randy and I had a great time at the Amherst Railway Society Railroad Hobby Show this weekend talking about our HO scale injection-molded plastic tall Pratt truss single-sheathed boxcar and auto car project. We had many great conversations and connected with a lot of great people.  We also received overwhelmingly positive feedback, both for the model choices as well as our crowd-funding approach to finance this extensive project.  Thank you to those who stopped by the Prototype Junction booth, and for those of you who have already pledged your support to the project, thank you even more!

We’re just past the halfway point of our crowdfunding campaign, so there is still time to make a funding pledge.  We really hope all of you who are interested in the project will step up, be part of the process and get some really cool freight cars.  In case you are not familiar with our project, check out our website at: https://www.prototypejunction.com/.  To pledge your support, follow the links on the site to our IndieGoGo crowd-funding page.  We were offering some very attractive show discounts over the weekend, but we will be leaving them in place through January 31 so you can take advantage of them through this week. 

Our funding campaign wraps up soon, so if you would like to see these cars produced, we must meet our funding goal.  If we don’t, we can’t move forward.  It would be great if we can get this project funded, not only to produce these unique single-sheathed cars, but to also open the door to future crowd-funded interesting model railroad rolling stock projects.

Thanks everyone!


John Drake
Prototype Junction
https://www.prototypejunction.com


Re: Does anyone use resin brake components?

Bruce Smith
 

Tom,

They go in the trash because the injection molded plastic sets I have have much better fidelity. Indeed the resin parts are made worse when things like the reservoir come in multiple parts and have to be assembled.

Regards,
Bruce 
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL

On Jan 27, 2020, at 2:03 PM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


I have rarely used the resin brake appliances myself - Usually on kits where
there is a specialty item, like the twin-piston cylinder on the R-70-2 kit, or
a Royal F slack adjuster. It would not bother me if the appliances were omitted
from the kits - and the brake housing and brake wheel either, if those are not
difficult to procure somewhere else.

Tim O'



On 1/27/2020 2:50 PM, Tom Madden via Groups.Io wrote:

On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 10:51 AM, Ron Merrick wrote:
I've taken to substituting more and more plastic parts on resin kits lately, like brake gear and roofwalks, where they're appropriate.  The one-piece F&C cars have meant that I don't need to find plastic roofs or ends, which I've even done on some of the more modern Sunshine prototypes.
An interesting point, which I wonder about every time I demold detail sheets for Resin Car Works kits. Does anyone actually use those resin brake cylinders, air reservoirs and triple valves included on the sheets of detail parts in many resin kits? They are very difficult to extract from a mold without tearing either the mold or the detail sheet. It's like trying to pull billiard balls through buttonholes. My defect rate on detail sheets is roughly 10%, compared to 1% to 2% for car bodies and frames/underframes. It keeps the kit price down when you don't have to buy parts from another manufacturer, but if those three components are only placeholders that give the illusion of completeness to the kit, and no one actually uses them, it might be time to reconsider.

Tom Madden

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Does anyone use resin brake components?

Tim O'Connor
 


I have rarely used the resin brake appliances myself - Usually on kits where
there is a specialty item, like the twin-piston cylinder on the R-70-2 kit, or
a Royal F slack adjuster. It would not bother me if the appliances were omitted
from the kits - and the brake housing and brake wheel either, if those are not
difficult to procure somewhere else.

Tim O'



On 1/27/2020 2:50 PM, Tom Madden via Groups.Io wrote:
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 10:51 AM, Ron Merrick wrote:
I've taken to substituting more and more plastic parts on resin kits lately, like brake gear and roofwalks, where they're appropriate.  The one-piece F&C cars have meant that I don't need to find plastic roofs or ends, which I've even done on some of the more modern Sunshine prototypes.
An interesting point, which I wonder about every time I demold detail sheets for Resin Car Works kits. Does anyone actually use those resin brake cylinders, air reservoirs and triple valves included on the sheets of detail parts in many resin kits? They are very difficult to extract from a mold without tearing either the mold or the detail sheet. It's like trying to pull billiard balls through buttonholes. My defect rate on detail sheets is roughly 10%, compared to 1% to 2% for car bodies and frames/underframes. It keeps the kit price down when you don't have to buy parts from another manufacturer, but if those three components are only placeholders that give the illusion of completeness to the kit, and no one actually uses them, it might be time to reconsider.

Tom Madden

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Does anyone use resin brake components?

Tom Madden
 

On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 10:51 AM, Ron Merrick wrote:
I've taken to substituting more and more plastic parts on resin kits lately, like brake gear and roofwalks, where they're appropriate.  The one-piece F&C cars have meant that I don't need to find plastic roofs or ends, which I've even done on some of the more modern Sunshine prototypes.
An interesting point, which I wonder about every time I demold detail sheets for Resin Car Works kits. Does anyone actually use those resin brake cylinders, air reservoirs and triple valves included on the sheets of detail parts in many resin kits? They are very difficult to extract from a mold without tearing either the mold or the detail sheet. It's like trying to pull billiard balls through buttonholes. My defect rate on detail sheets is roughly 10%, compared to 1% to 2% for car bodies and frames/underframes. It keeps the kit price down when you don't have to buy parts from another manufacturer, but if those three components are only placeholders that give the illusion of completeness to the kit, and no one actually uses them, it might be time to reconsider.

Tom Madden


Santa Fe Tank Car 100701 from 100801

Lester Breuer
 

Santa Fe tank car 100701, Class Tk-K, has been reworked and renumbered to better match the prototype from ATSF Tank Car 100801.  If you are interested as to why and how, photos and writeup of the upgrade process including paint and weathering are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you would like to take a look please do at the following link:

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/

Lester Breuer


Re: Photo: Unloading Fruit From A Livestock Car

Edward
 

The B&O boxcar in the photo showing scrap rubber being loaded is a member of Class M-55a.
Numbers were 465000 - 465899, built by Pullman Standard with Duryea underframes, late 1941 to early 1942.
Ed Bommer


Re: Photo: Unloading Fruit From A Livestock Car

Bruce Smith
 

B&O class M??  # ??5234, Built 12-41, by Pullman (based on the sill tabs). It has a nice slack adjuster and looks to probably have a Duryea under frame.

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."




On Jan 27, 2020, at 10:39 AM, Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:

Placard: Tin Cans

Just to show that tin can loads were called out for special handling:

https://aadl.org/sites/default/files/photos/N082_0371_001.jpg

Description:

"SCRAP RUBBER COLLECTIONS BEGIN TO LEAVE ANN ARBOR: Proof that Ann Arbor and Washtenaw county residents' efforts in the recently-ended scrap rubber collection campaign were not in vain is offered in this picture which shows the first shipment of scrap to leave the city. Cars shown above being loaded from the 50-ton plus pile gathered at the Staebler-Kempf station depot will carry 18 tons of rubber each to the Rubber Reserve Corp. collection depot in Cleveland from whence it will be turned over to varied rubber companies for reclaiming operations.

Published in Issue

Ann Arbor News, July 29, 1942"

Of course, somebody should have removed the placard after the car was unloaded.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA



Re: Photos: 140 Foot Tank On 3 Flatcars

John Barry
 

OOPS I missed those 45' FGs.  They are in the ORER table.

John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736


On Monday, January 27, 2020, 01:07:43 PM EST, Bill Kelly <wbkelly@...> wrote:


The end car, riveted with stake pockets, matches up with CMStP&P 67051 and 67053. Between '49 and '52 they were renumbered to 601051 and 60152.
Later,
Bill Kelly
 
 
On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 00:37:36 +0000 (UTC) "John Barry" <northbaylines@...> writes:

There aren’t many possibilities.  We can eliminate the short FM and FG cars, as well as the FD and FW cars.  That leaves the following FM flats from the Oct44 ORER list of Heavy Capacity Flat Cars

C&O 80950-80959             56’9

Erie 7220-7224   50’9

NYC 499000, 499007       40’10

NYC 499015-499019         35’6 (probably not)

NYC 499035-499039         34’8 (probably not)

NYC 499041-499042         47’

NYC&StL 2900-2901         50’9

PRR 470100-470199         50”

PRR 470200-470202         45’

PRR 470206-470235         50’

P&LE 6885-6889                36’7

SP 44091-44094                 45’

And a longer FG

C&NW 48051, 48053       45’

I'm not familiar with all of the HD flats, but this should narrow the search as it's likely that several of the above don't have the double truck bolsters.

John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736


On Sunday, January 26, 2020, 06:32:23 PM EST, Jack Mullen <jack.f.mullen@...> wrote:


On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 12:09 PM, Tony Thompson wrote:
Can anyone see whose flat cars they are? I can't read any of the cars.
No luck, the scans are rather low-rez and details just disappear into pixel legos as I zoom in.  What may be reporting marks  appear just left of center of the left-hand car in the first photo. That area resolves to what seem to be three characters.
This car, closest to the camera in the two outdoor photos, seems to have a cast steel body, which brings the Commonwealth CNW/PRR/SP 44' 200 ton cars that have been modeled in several scales to mind. However, unless it's an illusion caused by photo lens and angle, the car appears somewhat longer, and the trucks seem to have the proportions of 5'6"+ wb, rather than the 5'0" of at least the PRR and C&NW cars.  The truck sideframes are flat-topped, lacking the characteristic arch of the 5'0" 100 ton trucks.  So maybe a similar cast car, but say 47-50' length?
Who else had similar cars? NYC and D&H come to mind, but I don't have hard data or photos at hand.
The car bearing the other end of the load, closest to the camera, is different - riveted construction, and with stake pockets, which we don't often see on very heavy-duty flats.  The welding flare obscures what I think are the marks and number.
Hope these clues help somebody recognize these...

BTW, it's not " William Boiler & Manufacturing Company", but "William Bros...", and Bros is a name, not the abbreviation for brothers. They also made snowplows, some for railroads.

Jack Mullen
 



Re: Photos: 140 Foot Tank On 3 Flatcars

Bill Kelly
 


The end car, riveted with stake pockets, matches up with CMStP&P 67051 and 67053. Between '49 and '52 they were renumbered to 601051 and 60152.
Later,
Bill Kelly
 
 
On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 00:37:36 +0000 (UTC) "John Barry" <northbaylines@...> writes:

There aren’t many possibilities.  We can eliminate the short FM and FG cars, as well as the FD and FW cars.  That leaves the following FM flats from the Oct44 ORER list of Heavy Capacity Flat Cars

C&O 80950-80959             56’9

Erie 7220-7224   50’9

NYC 499000, 499007       40’10

NYC 499015-499019         35’6 (probably not)

NYC 499035-499039         34’8 (probably not)

NYC 499041-499042         47’

NYC&StL 2900-2901         50’9

PRR 470100-470199         50”

PRR 470200-470202         45’

PRR 470206-470235         50’

P&LE 6885-6889                36’7

SP 44091-44094                 45’

And a longer FG

C&NW 48051, 48053       45’

I'm not familiar with all of the HD flats, but this should narrow the search as it's likely that several of the above don't have the double truck bolsters.

John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736


On Sunday, January 26, 2020, 06:32:23 PM EST, Jack Mullen <jack.f.mullen@...> wrote:


On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 12:09 PM, Tony Thompson wrote:
Can anyone see whose flat cars they are? I can't read any of the cars.
No luck, the scans are rather low-rez and details just disappear into pixel legos as I zoom in.  What may be reporting marks  appear just left of center of the left-hand car in the first photo. That area resolves to what seem to be three characters.
This car, closest to the camera in the two outdoor photos, seems to have a cast steel body, which brings the Commonwealth CNW/PRR/SP 44' 200 ton cars that have been modeled in several scales to mind. However, unless it's an illusion caused by photo lens and angle, the car appears somewhat longer, and the trucks seem to have the proportions of 5'6"+ wb, rather than the 5'0" of at least the PRR and C&NW cars.  The truck sideframes are flat-topped, lacking the characteristic arch of the 5'0" 100 ton trucks.  So maybe a similar cast car, but say 47-50' length?
Who else had similar cars? NYC and D&H come to mind, but I don't have hard data or photos at hand.
The car bearing the other end of the load, closest to the camera, is different - riveted construction, and with stake pockets, which we don't often see on very heavy-duty flats.  The welding flare obscures what I think are the marks and number.
Hope these clues help somebody recognize these...

BTW, it's not " William Boiler & Manufacturing Company", but "William Bros...", and Bros is a name, not the abbreviation for brothers. They also made snowplows, some for railroads.

Jack Mullen
 



Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR X28A

mopacfirst
 

Elden:

That's the summary I was expecting, with regard to where those cars actually were as their reported numbers were declining.

Considering how many resin and plastic cars I'm currently working on, I think I'll set the X28A aside for now.  The X26C is coming along well, with the underframe completed and painted, and some of the detail done on the body.  The other two X29 rebuilds have the underframes partly done.  I like to finish the underframe and add two ounces of weight (half-ounce fishing weights) after I assembly the body sides, roof and ends but before I do much body detailing.

I've taken to substituting more and more plastic parts on resin kits lately, like brake gear and roofwalks, where they're appropriate.  The one-piece F&C cars have meant that I don't need to find plastic roofs or ends, which I've even done on some of the more modern Sunshine prototypes.

Ron Merrick


Re: Photo: Unloading Fruit From A Livestock Car

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Bob and List Members,
 
 
Thanks Bob for the reference to that nice image.
 
Other good images can be found on the site.
 
Some of my favorites are at the links below.
 
Unloading containers of lime from gondola onto a truck...
 
 
 

UTLX tank car, INFLAMMABLE placard...
 
 

Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Unloading Fruit From A Livestock Car

Placard: Tin Cans

Just to show that tin can loads were called out for special handling:

https://aadl.org/sites/default/files/photos/N082_0371_001.jpg

Description:

"SCRAP RUBBER COLLECTIONS BEGIN TO LEAVE ANN ARBOR: Proof that Ann Arbor and Washtenaw county residents' efforts in the recently-ended scrap rubber collection campaign were not in vain is offered in this picture which shows the first shipment of scrap to leave the city. Cars shown above being loaded from the 50-ton plus pile gathered at the Staebler-Kempf station depot will carry 18 tons of rubber each to the Rubber Reserve Corp. collection depot in Cleveland from whence it will be turned over to varied rubber companies for reclaiming operations.

Published in Issue

Ann Arbor News, July 29, 1942"

Of course, somebody should have removed the placard after the car was unloaded.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


New F&C flat car kit (was Photos: 140 Foot Tank On 3 Flatcars)

Tim O'Connor
 


I forgot to mention! Funaro & Camerlengo now have an SP F-200-1 model flat car.
I bought the kit at the Springfield show. It's catalog #8471. (Misprinted labels say
F22-1)

:-)






On 1/26/2020 4:05 PM, Ralph W. Brown wrote:
Hi Tony,
 
I can’t read any of them either, but the lead flat in the first two images looks very much like the 200 ton four-truck SP flat (44083 or 44093 I think) shown at the top of the Mt. Vernon Car Mfg. Co. ad (or perhaps catalog page) posted by Tim O’Connor earlier today.
 
Pax,
 
 
Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com
 
From: Tony Thompson
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 3:09 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photos: 140 Foot Tank On 3 Flatcars
 
     Can anyone see whose flat cars they are? I can't read any of the cars.
 
Tony Thompson
tony@...
 

 

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Private: Re: [RealSTMFC] Grandt Line - San Juan - American Limited - etc

Tim O'Connor
 

Dan

Well, he did say "brake wheels" to me - but it could have been a slip of
the tongue. MODERN is of course relative - MOST brake wheels from the late
1950's onward were of the so called "modern" variety. :-)

But the set old had several levers, a piston-type slack adjuster, a retainer
valve (I think), in addition to mounting brackets, AB valve, cylinder, reservoir.
I think some of those were also in the delrin sprue. Without those, the set is
really not of much use compared to Tichy or someone else.

Tim O'



On 1/26/2020 1:16 PM, Dan Smith wrote:
Hi Tim,

The Grandt line AB set has NO brake wheels on the triple valve, cylinder, tank sprue, only housings.

Dave had refaced the mating surface to stop flashout but got to the point of altering the parts.
That's when he retired the tool. Has the new owner fixed this. Dave was thinking about a new tool.

The wheels are on the delrin sprue and are all modern.

Dan

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR X28A

Mont Switzer
 

I’m aware that in the 1950’s and 1960’s the Nickel Plate rolled wood boxcars and cabooses off of their trucks and onto their sides where they were burned.  They then salvaged the remaining metal and of course the trucks.  I know they did this in Frankfort and Muncie, IN, but this process could have been used on about any RIP track. 

 

Montford L. Switzer

President

Switzer Tank Lines, Inc.

Fall Creek Leasing, LLC.

mswitzer@...

(765) 836-2914

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis Storzek
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 11:53 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR X28A

 

On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 05:57 AM, Mont Switzer wrote:

During the early 1990's I made regular visits to Altoona, PA on business. While there I observed a metal building being built in an industrial area. It was sort of like your typical steel building except the vertical members were old freight car center sills. I was told they were previously under PRR cars, maybe the X28's and X29's of which you speak.

Considering the sills probably came via a scrapper they could have been around for a while. The center sills didn’t look very good in this application, but they were obviously overbuilt for this purpose.

I wonder if the building was a 'boxcar burner'? Back in the late seventies I had some dealings with Purdy Co., a scrap merchant in Hammond, Indiana, located just north of State Line Tower. We were buying hinges from old swing door reefers; many of the big doors at the Illinois Railway Museum are hung on these hinges. Anyway, Purdy had an incinerator for burning the linings out of the cars they were scrapping. As I recall, it was two tracks wide and only one car length long, built entirely out of longitudinal slices of tankcar tanks standing on end, with more of these 1/3 tank sections making the roof. Standard procedure was to slosh fuel oil into a couple cars, push them into this building, and throw a flaming rag in after them. The steel enclosure intensified the heat, and kept ashes from flying all over. After the remains of the cars cooled down, they pulled them out and cut them into bite-size chunks, ready for the furnace.

I have no idea how long this lasted; I'm sure the EPA eventually shut it down. Sometime around 1980 there were no more ice reefers to scrap, so our source of hinges dried up, and there was no reason to go down there.

Dennis Storzek


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR X28A

Dennis Storzek
 

On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 05:57 AM, Mont Switzer wrote:
During the early 1990's I made regular visits to Altoona, PA on business. While there I observed a metal building being built in an industrial area. It was sort of like your typical steel building except the vertical members were old freight car center sills. I was told they were previously under PRR cars, maybe the X28's and X29's of which you speak.

Considering the sills probably came via a scrapper they could have been around for a while. The center sills didn’t look very good in this application, but they were obviously overbuilt for this purpose.
I wonder if the building was a 'boxcar burner'? Back in the late seventies I had some dealings with Purdy Co., a scrap merchant in Hammond, Indiana, located just north of State Line Tower. We were buying hinges from old swing door reefers; many of the big doors at the Illinois Railway Museum are hung on these hinges. Anyway, Purdy had an incinerator for burning the linings out of the cars they were scrapping. As I recall, it was two tracks wide and only one car length long, built entirely out of longitudinal slices of tankcar tanks standing on end, with more of these 1/3 tank sections making the roof. Standard procedure was to slosh fuel oil into a couple cars, push them into this building, and throw a flaming rag in after them. The steel enclosure intensified the heat, and kept ashes from flying all over. After the remains of the cars cooled down, they pulled them out and cut them into bite-size chunks, ready for the furnace.

I have no idea how long this lasted; I'm sure the EPA eventually shut it down. Sometime around 1980 there were no more ice reefers to scrap, so our source of hinges dried up, and there was no reason to go down there.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Photo: Unloading Fruit From A Livestock Car

Bob Chaparro
 

Placard: Tin Cans

Just to show that tin can loads were called out for special handling:

https://aadl.org/sites/default/files/photos/N082_0371_001.jpg

Description:

"SCRAP RUBBER COLLECTIONS BEGIN TO LEAVE ANN ARBOR: Proof that Ann Arbor and Washtenaw county residents' efforts in the recently-ended scrap rubber collection campaign were not in vain is offered in this picture which shows the first shipment of scrap to leave the city. Cars shown above being loaded from the 50-ton plus pile gathered at the Staebler-Kempf station depot will carry 18 tons of rubber each to the Rubber Reserve Corp. collection depot in Cleveland from whence it will be turned over to varied rubber companies for reclaiming operations.

Published in Issue

Ann Arbor News, July 29, 1942"

Of course, somebody should have removed the placard after the car was unloaded.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

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