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Photo: Log Debarking Drums On Flat Cars

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Log Debarking Drums On Flat Cars

Photo from Maine Memory Network:

https://www.mainememory.net/artifact/12557

Click to enlarge the photo.

Description:

"A five-car trainload of log-debarking drums in the Portland Company yard at the base of Munjoy Hill awaits shipment to distant paper mills." --Fletcher, David H. "The Portland Company 1846-1982." Charleston, S.C.: Arcadia Pub., 2002. 97.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: NYC And New Haven Boxcars, Circa 1931

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: NYC And New Haven Boxcars, Circa 1931

Photo from Maine Memory Network

https://www.mainememory.net/artifact/79697

Description:

"This photograph shows the Maine Baking Company delivery truck loading the railroad cars for shipment in Auburn around 1930. The Maine Baking Company was founded by Franco-American Philippe Couture in Auburn in 1928. Among its popular products were 'Golden Heart' bread and 'Drake's Cakes.'

The railroad shown here is either the Grand Trunk Railroad or Maine Central Railroad. The cars are from the New York, New Haven and Hartford Railroad, which served southern New England."

Stencil indicates the NYC boxcar's journals were repacked in 1931.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Union Tank Car Co. UTLX 17441 a “squat”

dalemuir2@...
 

this is good, check it out.

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Donald B. Valentine via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2020 7:57 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Union Tank Car Co. UTLX 17441 a “squat”

 

fHello all,

 

    Lester Breuer's recent post about constructing a UTLX X-3 of 8,000 gal. capacity refered us to the most recent of his

always enjoyable blogs on constructing his model. In the blog he noted finding that the prototype had a dome platform 

on only one side of the tank. My late friend, and kitbasher extrodinaire, Robert W. Witbeck and I first began noticing that

many tank cars had dome platforms on only one side back in the mid-1990's but were never successful in determining

what factors decided whether on or two dome platforms were to be used. Still being in the dark on this subject I'm raising

the question here in hope that someone might know the answer to this long standing void in my knowledge of tank car

construction. Any knowledgeable responses would be appreciated.

 

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: Union Tank Car Co. UTLX 17441 a “squat”

Donald B. Valentine
 

fHello all,

    Lester Breuer's recent post about constructing a UTLX X-3 of 8,000 gal. capacity refered us to the most recent of his
always enjoyable blogs on constructing his model. In the blog he noted finding that the prototype had a dome platform 
on only one side of the tank. My late friend, and kitbasher extrodinaire, Robert W. Witbeck and I first began noticing that
many tank cars had dome platforms on only one side back in the mid-1990's but were never successful in determining
what factors decided whether on or two dome platforms were to be used. Still being in the dark on this subject I'm raising
the question here in hope that someone might know the answer to this long standing void in my knowledge of tank car
construction. Any knowledgeable responses would be appreciated.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: Union Pacific Stock Car colors - FCR to Yellow?

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
 

Dick,

Good call on the journal boxes. On most roads yellow or silver usually indicated a car with roller bearings inside an older style journal box with a lid, often a conversion. I'm would be reasonably certain that was so of the UP cars, though documentation is always needed to be sure.

Yours Aye,

Garth Groff  🦆


On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:59 AM Dick Harley via Groups.Io <dick.harley4up=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

On the UP Freight Car Data portion of my SmugMug site is a gallery with a 3-page spreadsheet of UP Stock Car Data.
https://harley-trains.smugmug.com/UP-FRT-DATA

On the right side of the second page are three columns for Body Color - pre and post 1940.

It's been years since I built that spreadsheet, and I do not recall if I ever determined a pattern to the color choice, though there probably was one.
I guess determining that pattern is now "left as an exercise for the student."  May be solid versus roller bearing journals, but I've got too much other stuff to do.

Let us know if anyone figures out something.


Cheers,
Dick Harley
Laguna Beach,  CA


Re: Mack and bricks

Paul Doggett
 

Brian 

That’s interesting bricks in stock cars.

Paul Doggett.   England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 5 Feb 2020, at 22:18, "brianleppert@..." <brianleppert@...> wrote:

This image is  currently available on ebay.  Search for "mack ac brick".

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV
<Mack bricks.jpg>


Re: Union Pacific Stock Car colors - FCR to Yellow?

Dick Harley
 


On the UP Freight Car Data portion of my SmugMug site is a gallery with a 3-page spreadsheet of UP Stock Car Data.
https://harley-trains.smugmug.com/UP-FRT-DATA

On the right side of the second page are three columns for Body Color - pre and post 1940.

It's been years since I built that spreadsheet, and I do not recall if I ever determined a pattern to the color choice, though there probably was one.
I guess determining that pattern is now "left as an exercise for the student."  May be solid versus roller bearing journals, but I've got too much other stuff to do.

Let us know if anyone figures out something.


Cheers,
Dick Harley
Laguna Beach,  CA


Re: Union Pacific Stock Car colors - FCR to Yellow?

Greg Martin
 

Rob,

If you review the Shake N Take project for the UP S 40-10 you'll find the answer including the first prototype car painted with black ends and roof and yellow nournal covers.

Greg Martin




On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 Rob M. via Groups.Io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> wrote:

I did a search but could find nothing conclusive - is there a specific time period or car series for the UP change from FCR to yellow for stock cars? 

I'm a right coaster but a fellow O scaler asked the question and could find no conclusive evidence so I bring it up to the experts here.

Rob Mondichak

--
Hey Boss,


Somehow I got deleted from this group in late May. I guess someone didn't like me. Jail is a lonely place.

Greg Martin 


Re: Intermountain 12 panel GN Vermillion box car details

Steve Haas
 

>>>> I picked up an old IMRC GN 12 panel boxcar kit (GN 18837, reweigh F-10-60). Some of the parts are pretty dated. There were no instructions and I have a few questions.
What hand brake was used on these cars?
What running boards were used? Was it painted or galvanized?
Were the trucks black or oxide red?
What was the underframe color?
Is there a online prototype photo source?

Thanks in advance for any help. <<<<<

 

Out of the box, the IMRC 10’ 0” 12 panel cars are accurate for zero to one version of the GN 12 panel car covering 3 number series:

 

2525-2549

3-48

25

7p Sup1

10900-11199

2-48

300

YSD-2

11200-11374

3-48

175

7p Sup1

 

 

 

 

 

Whether they are accurate or not depends on which version of the end IMRC included in the kit you purchased – some have a 4/3/0 end, some with a 4/3/1.   For the three GN series above, _only_ the 4/3/0 version of the end is accurate.  Ed Hawkins defines this as:

 

42798 IDN-1 - 42798 Improved Dreadnaught End with rolling pin main corrugations and lacking top narrow stiffener (1945-1948)

 

The doors included with the kit may or may not be correct for the series in question, either.  Again it is important to look to Ed Hawkins work on 10’ cars for these and other details.

 

No other series of GN 12 panel cars can be modeled with any ends provided by IMRC.  The remaining GN 12 panel cars use what Ed Hawkins calls IDN-2: 42798 IDN-2 - 42798 Improved Dreadnaught End with rolling pin main corrugations except top main corrugation with truncated bottom (mid-1948 to 1953). To my knowledge, no one provides this end to the HO market.  I’m currently working on creating some masters for my own use based on techniques Bill Welch discussed in one of his clinics in the past couple of years.  If such a 10’ end exists I’d love to hear of it.  One also needs to pay attention to the correct doors for the various series, too.  Again, I refer you to Ed Hawkins work on this group of cars.

 

Best regards,

 

 

Steve

 

Steve Haas

Snoqualmie, WA

 

 

 


Re: Union Pacific Stock Car colors - FCR to Yellow?

Todd Sullivan
 

I don't know about a date, but in mid-summer 1959, I recall seeing strings of both red and yellow stock cars in sidings along the UP's Columbia Gorge main line.

Todd Sullivan.


Union Pacific Stock Car colors - FCR to Yellow?

Rob M.
 

I did a search but could find nothing conclusive - is there a specific time period or car series for the UP change from FCR to yellow for stock cars? 

I'm a right coaster but a fellow O scaler asked the question and could find no conclusive evidence so I bring it up to the experts here.

Rob Mondichak


Re: Source for Intermountain Parts

Allan Smith
 

I have a package of IM BCR Youngstown Door 1937 AAR Boxcar part # 40700-01 4 sets in package. Is this what you are looking for? If so I will sell it to you for $5.00 plus $5.00 shipping.

Al Smith
Sonora CA
Smithal9@...

On Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 07:24:50 AM PST, golden1014 via Groups.Io <golden1014@...> wrote:


Hi Gents,

I’m in need of about 4-5 pair of Intermountain 1937 Modified 10-6 Youngstown box car doors for a project, and a few 1937 Modified (preferably undec) box car kits.  Can anyone recommend a dealer that can talk the talk?

I contacted Andy Carlson but he’s unable to help with this one.

Thanks,
John Golden


Mack and bricks

brianleppert@att.net
 

This image is  currently available on ebay.  Search for "mack ac brick".

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV


Re: Source for Intermountain Parts

Richard Townsend
 

In the past I have contacted Intermountain directly. If they have the parts they will ship them and they don’t they will ship them when they get some. At least that’s how it used to work. Try them and see.


On Feb 5, 2020, at 7:24 AM, golden1014 via Groups.Io <golden1014@...> wrote:

Hi Gents,

I’m in need of about 4-5 pair of Intermountain 1937 Modified 10-6 Youngstown box car doors for a project, and a few 1937 Modified (preferably undec) box car kits.  Can anyone recommend a dealer that can talk the talk?

I contacted Andy Carlson but he’s unable to help with this one.

Thanks,
John Golden


Photo: Buoy Boats On Flat Cars

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Buoy Boats On Flat Cars

Photo from Maine Memory Network

https://www.mainememory.net/artifact/21104

Click to enlarge the photo.

Description:

"Buoy Boats on a trailer ready to be shipped to be used for the war effort.

The Mt. Desert Yacht Yard built the boats."

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Digester On PRR & NYC Flat Cars

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Digester On PRR & NYC Flat Cars

A photo from the Maine Memory Network:

https://www.mainememory.net/artifact/31391

Click to enlarge the photo.

Description:

"A Maine Central train carrying a digester for the Lincoln paper mill. The digester cooks the wood chips until they dissolve into pulp."

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Vague question about a gondola

Clark Propst
 

On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 07:12 PM, Rick Jesionowski wrote:
I checked my C&NW Color Guide and in the 1970’s they picked up both the Betlehem (from C&EI and PC) and the ACF car from the PC.

Rick Jesionowski
Thanks Rick, I lent him my book. He's going to do the car as received from PC.
CW Propst


Southwest Scale Productions

StephenK
 

I am looking for a set of SSP doors that are described on the website as: Superior 6 Ft Wide 10' 6" IH 7 Panel Door Wide 3rd Panel.  I sent a note to the website just to check that it would fit my Branchline kit, but never got an answer.    Is Southwest Scale Productions still in business?    I would like that door for a Texas and Pacific boxcar I am doing and would like to give the business to a small producer, but I don't want to send away $$ for nothing.

Steve Kay


Re: ACL low sided gondolas

Paul Doggett
 

Hi Thomas 

Thank you for the information.

Paul 


On 5 Feb 2020, at 15:24, thomas christensen via Groups.Io <thomasjonly@...> wrote:


Paul, 
 Class K-7 90950-93199, blt 1926 by ACF.
 Attached are the Lines South article from Spring 1990, 2 Larry Goolsby photos, and photos  of models I did about 25 years ago based on the Ertl model.
Tom Christensen 






















Hi

I have just started a Funaro and Camerlengo ACL low sided gondola as usual there is no photographs of the prototype and the drawing is poor has anyone got any photos of these cars in service the only number given is 92250 .

Thank you in advance
Paul Doggett    

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Source for Intermountain Parts

golden1014
 

Hi Gents,

I’m in need of about 4-5 pair of Intermountain 1937 Modified 10-6 Youngstown box car doors for a project, and a few 1937 Modified (preferably undec) box car kits.  Can anyone recommend a dealer that can talk the talk?

I contacted Andy Carlson but he’s unable to help with this one.

Thanks,
John Golden