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Re: Intermountain 12 panel GN Vermillion box car details

Steve Haas
 

>>>> I picked up an old IMRC GN 12 panel boxcar kit (GN 18837, reweigh F-10-60). Some of the parts are pretty dated. There were no instructions and I have a few questions.
What hand brake was used on these cars?
What running boards were used? Was it painted or galvanized?
Were the trucks black or oxide red?
What was the underframe color?
Is there a online prototype photo source?

Thanks in advance for any help. <<<<<

 

Out of the box, the IMRC 10’ 0” 12 panel cars are accurate for zero to one version of the GN 12 panel car covering 3 number series:

 

2525-2549

3-48

25

7p Sup1

10900-11199

2-48

300

YSD-2

11200-11374

3-48

175

7p Sup1

 

 

 

 

 

Whether they are accurate or not depends on which version of the end IMRC included in the kit you purchased – some have a 4/3/0 end, some with a 4/3/1.   For the three GN series above, _only_ the 4/3/0 version of the end is accurate.  Ed Hawkins defines this as:

 

42798 IDN-1 - 42798 Improved Dreadnaught End with rolling pin main corrugations and lacking top narrow stiffener (1945-1948)

 

The doors included with the kit may or may not be correct for the series in question, either.  Again it is important to look to Ed Hawkins work on 10’ cars for these and other details.

 

No other series of GN 12 panel cars can be modeled with any ends provided by IMRC.  The remaining GN 12 panel cars use what Ed Hawkins calls IDN-2: 42798 IDN-2 - 42798 Improved Dreadnaught End with rolling pin main corrugations except top main corrugation with truncated bottom (mid-1948 to 1953). To my knowledge, no one provides this end to the HO market.  I’m currently working on creating some masters for my own use based on techniques Bill Welch discussed in one of his clinics in the past couple of years.  If such a 10’ end exists I’d love to hear of it.  One also needs to pay attention to the correct doors for the various series, too.  Again, I refer you to Ed Hawkins work on this group of cars.

 

Best regards,

 

 

Steve

 

Steve Haas

Snoqualmie, WA

 

 

 


Re: Union Pacific Stock Car colors - FCR to Yellow?

Todd Sullivan
 

I don't know about a date, but in mid-summer 1959, I recall seeing strings of both red and yellow stock cars in sidings along the UP's Columbia Gorge main line.

Todd Sullivan.


Union Pacific Stock Car colors - FCR to Yellow?

Rob M.
 

I did a search but could find nothing conclusive - is there a specific time period or car series for the UP change from FCR to yellow for stock cars? 

I'm a right coaster but a fellow O scaler asked the question and could find no conclusive evidence so I bring it up to the experts here.

Rob Mondichak


Re: Source for Intermountain Parts

Allan Smith
 

I have a package of IM BCR Youngstown Door 1937 AAR Boxcar part # 40700-01 4 sets in package. Is this what you are looking for? If so I will sell it to you for $5.00 plus $5.00 shipping.

Al Smith
Sonora CA
Smithal9@...

On Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 07:24:50 AM PST, golden1014 via Groups.Io <golden1014@...> wrote:


Hi Gents,

I’m in need of about 4-5 pair of Intermountain 1937 Modified 10-6 Youngstown box car doors for a project, and a few 1937 Modified (preferably undec) box car kits.  Can anyone recommend a dealer that can talk the talk?

I contacted Andy Carlson but he’s unable to help with this one.

Thanks,
John Golden


Mack and bricks

brianleppert@att.net
 

This image is  currently available on ebay.  Search for "mack ac brick".

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV


Re: Source for Intermountain Parts

Richard Townsend
 

In the past I have contacted Intermountain directly. If they have the parts they will ship them and they don’t they will ship them when they get some. At least that’s how it used to work. Try them and see.


On Feb 5, 2020, at 7:24 AM, golden1014 via Groups.Io <golden1014@...> wrote:

Hi Gents,

I’m in need of about 4-5 pair of Intermountain 1937 Modified 10-6 Youngstown box car doors for a project, and a few 1937 Modified (preferably undec) box car kits.  Can anyone recommend a dealer that can talk the talk?

I contacted Andy Carlson but he’s unable to help with this one.

Thanks,
John Golden


Photo: Buoy Boats On Flat Cars

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Buoy Boats On Flat Cars

Photo from Maine Memory Network

https://www.mainememory.net/artifact/21104

Click to enlarge the photo.

Description:

"Buoy Boats on a trailer ready to be shipped to be used for the war effort.

The Mt. Desert Yacht Yard built the boats."

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Digester On PRR & NYC Flat Cars

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Digester On PRR & NYC Flat Cars

A photo from the Maine Memory Network:

https://www.mainememory.net/artifact/31391

Click to enlarge the photo.

Description:

"A Maine Central train carrying a digester for the Lincoln paper mill. The digester cooks the wood chips until they dissolve into pulp."

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Vague question about a gondola

Clark Propst
 

On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 07:12 PM, Rick Jesionowski wrote:
I checked my C&NW Color Guide and in the 1970’s they picked up both the Betlehem (from C&EI and PC) and the ACF car from the PC.

Rick Jesionowski
Thanks Rick, I lent him my book. He's going to do the car as received from PC.
CW Propst


Southwest Scale Productions

StephenK
 

I am looking for a set of SSP doors that are described on the website as: Superior 6 Ft Wide 10' 6" IH 7 Panel Door Wide 3rd Panel.  I sent a note to the website just to check that it would fit my Branchline kit, but never got an answer.    Is Southwest Scale Productions still in business?    I would like that door for a Texas and Pacific boxcar I am doing and would like to give the business to a small producer, but I don't want to send away $$ for nothing.

Steve Kay


Re: ACL low sided gondolas

Paul Doggett
 

Hi Thomas 

Thank you for the information.

Paul 


On 5 Feb 2020, at 15:24, thomas christensen via Groups.Io <thomasjonly@...> wrote:


Paul, 
 Class K-7 90950-93199, blt 1926 by ACF.
 Attached are the Lines South article from Spring 1990, 2 Larry Goolsby photos, and photos  of models I did about 25 years ago based on the Ertl model.
Tom Christensen 






















Hi

I have just started a Funaro and Camerlengo ACL low sided gondola as usual there is no photographs of the prototype and the drawing is poor has anyone got any photos of these cars in service the only number given is 92250 .

Thank you in advance
Paul Doggett    

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Source for Intermountain Parts

golden1014
 

Hi Gents,

I’m in need of about 4-5 pair of Intermountain 1937 Modified 10-6 Youngstown box car doors for a project, and a few 1937 Modified (preferably undec) box car kits.  Can anyone recommend a dealer that can talk the talk?

I contacted Andy Carlson but he’s unable to help with this one.

Thanks,
John Golden


Re: Grandt Line part

Christopher J. Palermo <cpalermo@...>
 

I have a package of 5167 with two door latches in it, thus enough for one car. The other two I used in a project. If this works, let me know where to mail it.

I also have 5168.

Chris Palermo
San Carlos, CA


Re: ACL low sided gondolas

thomas christensen
 

Paul, 
 Class K-7 90950-93199, blt 1926 by ACF.
 Attached are the Lines South article from Spring 1990, 2 Larry Goolsby photos, and photos  of models I did about 25 years ago based on the Ertl model.
Tom Christensen 






















Hi

I have just started a Funaro and Camerlengo ACL low sided gondola as usual there is no photographs of the prototype and the drawing is poor has anyone got any photos of these cars in service the only number given is 92250 .

Thank you in advance
Paul Doggett    


Re: Grandt Line part

Mark
 

Pierre, Are you sure about the number? Or, do you mean 5106?

Mark Feddersen

Denver, Iowa

On 1/29/2020 3:34 PM, Pierre Oliver wrote:
Anybody out there have a spare set of Grandt Line #5167 reefer door latch hardware, they be willing to part with?


Re: Grandt Line - San Juan - American Limited - etc

Calvin Monaghan
 

I placed an order for some Grandt Line parts from San Juan in August. I didn’t receive any response for about a month- but when I did it was to tell me that my order was ready and to send payment.

I sent payment and the parts came a couple weeks later. Slow communication, but I eventually got what I ordered.

--
Calvin Monaghan
Charlottetown, PE Canada


Re: Car End Data

earlyrail
 

Lettering on trucks goes way back.
I have photos of in service cars from 1905 that show car number and journal size lettered on the trucks.
And yes, my models have all this lettering.

Howard Garner


Re: Merchants Despatch Refrigerator Car Wreck - Lehigh Valley

Dave Parker
 

All of the MDT's SUF cars built between 1911 and 1917 (~3700 by my count) had 5-ft wide doors with four hinges per side.  Cars built after the war had 4-ft doors and the more typical three hinges per side.

The pre-war cars were all rebuilt with the 1920+ door configuration during the 1920s; none of the original wider doors remain in my December, 1930, ORER.

So, their rarity is very much a function of what year one is considering.

--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


Re: Merchants Despatch Refrigerator Car Wreck - Lehigh Valley

Bob Chaparro
 

Also interesting is the pair of four-hinge doors on the MDT reefer. Not rare but maybe less common than three-hinge doors?
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: NKP BOXCAR COLORS

Vera Mills
 

Hello,

Further to Craig's comments below, please find attached a photograph taken on 3 July 2005 of NKP 8099 at ITM Noblesville IN.

It looks like a black end to me.

Regards,

Glen Mills
Re: NKP BOXCAR COLORS
From: c.presler
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2020 19:11:50 PST

When 8099 arrived at ITM the ends and underframe were black with the roof the same as the sides. That is how I repainted it. It had been parked at the Noblesville grain elevator at their request to hold supplies for grain doors. When we asked the office at Frankfort to move it, they were skeptical because their indicated their records showed it had been scrapped. I had to hand deliver a photo of the car with my '84 Camaro parked in front of it.

snip.....

Craig Presler
Noblesville

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