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Re: GA box car colors

Clark Propst
 

Bill, I checked the photos in the instructions and the few I have on my computer and it does appear the silver cars had the flat roofs. Thanks.

I'll keep my eyes open at upcoming train shows for a Tichy kit similar to Ted's. If I find one I may try my hand at replacing the roof with a flat one. Now, if I could get more data on those rebuilds with the straight side posts....

CW Propst


Re: Union Oil 76 paint scheme

tyesac@aol.com <tyesac@...>
 

Tony,
  
I used to work for Union 76's Refining & Transportation div in the early 1990's.  At the time, they celebrated their 100th anniversary and handed out some thick hardbound books about the company history.   I remember seeing B&W pictures of some of the tank cars they used.  If I recall correctly they were pre war, but the anniversary book did not have roster information.   The blue and orange color would have matched the company colors, just as you'd see in the orange & blue gas station signs.   At one time they also gave out millions of Styrofoam Union 76 balls to put on the tip of a car antenna.  I worked in the IT dept supporting the company accounting systems in Schaumburg, IL.  When I asked about current rail operations, the answer was that the preferred method to move refined product, except gasoline, which used pipelines from refineries to distribution points.   Tank car usage was via leased /per diem cars: UTLX or SHPX.    BTW, multiple oil companies would deliver gasoline via a common pipeline.   It was at the end stage of the distribution point, right before loading delivery trucks that octane & detergents additives were introduced.

Tom Casey 


-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Birkett <tnbirke@...>
To: main <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>; RealSTMFC <RealSTMFC@groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Feb 11, 2020 8:41 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Union Oil 76 paint scheme

Tony: I am Phillips Petroleum Co. retiree and conocoPhillips and now Phillips 66 Company after a merger and divorce own the rights to the 76 brand. I will try to slip by the museum tomorrow and see if I can learn anything more on the topic.
Thomas N. Birkett, PE, Bartlesville, PK



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-------- Original message --------
From: Tony Thompson <tony@...>
Date: 2/11/20 5:05 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Union Oil 76 paint scheme

     Years ago, a couple of the HO scale manufacturers of tank cars offered Union Oil cars in a dark blue paint scheme with an orange 76 emblem (the company colors). Several people, including no less than Richard Hendrickson, pronounced this a bogus scheme, with bright colors to attract modelers.
      But recently in browsing old issues of _Model Railroader_ from the early 1950s, I found the photo below in an Athearn ad of 1952 (they offered this scheme on a metal tank car model) -- and note the astronomical price. Can anyone supply more information about how widely used this scheme was?

Tony Thompson
tony@...






Re: Union Oil 76 paint scheme

Thomas Birkett
 

Tony: I am Phillips Petroleum Co. retiree and conocoPhillips and now Phillips 66 Company after a merger and divorce own the rights to the 76 brand. I will try to slip by the museum tomorrow and see if I can learn anything more on the topic.
Thomas N. Birkett, PE, Bartlesville, PK



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-------- Original message --------
From: Tony Thompson <tony@...>
Date: 2/11/20 5:05 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Union Oil 76 paint scheme

     Years ago, a couple of the HO scale manufacturers of tank cars offered Union Oil cars in a dark blue paint scheme with an orange 76 emblem (the company colors). Several people, including no less than Richard Hendrickson, pronounced this a bogus scheme, with bright colors to attract modelers.
      But recently in browsing old issues of _Model Railroader_ from the early 1950s, I found the photo below in an Athearn ad of 1952 (they offered this scheme on a metal tank car model) -- and note the astronomical price. Can anyone supply more information about how widely used this scheme was?

Tony Thompson
tony@...






Re: Union Oil 76 paint scheme

Thomas Birkett
 

Tony: I am Phillips Petroleum Co. retiree and conocoPhillips and now Phillips 66 Company after a merger and divorce own the rights to the 76 brand. I will try to slip by the museum tomorrow and see if I can learn anything more on the topic.
Thomas N. Birkett, PE, Bartlesville, PK



Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S® 6, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: Tony Thompson <tony@...>
Date: 2/11/20 5:05 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Union Oil 76 paint scheme

     Years ago, a couple of the HO scale manufacturers of tank cars offered Union Oil cars in a dark blue paint scheme with an orange 76 emblem (the company colors). Several people, including no less than Richard Hendrickson, pronounced this a bogus scheme, with bright colors to attract modelers.
      But recently in browsing old issues of _Model Railroader_ from the early 1950s, I found the photo below in an Athearn ad of 1952 (they offered this scheme on a metal tank car model) -- and note the astronomical price. Can anyone supply more information about how widely used this scheme was?

Tony Thompson
tony@...






Re: The Winter issue of The Keystone Modeler is available

Dave Owens
 

Try refreshing the page, Brian.
It was there for me.

Dave Owens


On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 7:33 PM BRIAN PAUL EHNI <bpehni@...> wrote:

Not showing up yet.

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Smith <smithbf@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 4:54 PM
To: "the-keystone-modeler@..." <the-keystone-modeler@...>
Cc: "RealSTMFC@groups.io" <RealSTMFC@groups.io>, "PRR@PRR.groups.io" <PRR@PRR.groups.io>, "PRRPro@groups.io" <PRRPro@groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] The Winter issue of The Keystone Modeler is available

 

Folks,

 

The Winter, 2020 issue (#111) of The Keystone Modeler is now available on the PRRT&HS web site at: http://www.prrths.com/newprr_files/newPRRKeystoneModeler.htm

 

Regards,

Bruce 

Bruce Smith, Assistant webmaster, PRRT&HS


Re: The Winter issue of The Keystone Modeler is available

 

SO OF COURSE IT SHOWED UP SOON THEREAFTER! LOL!

 

 

Thanks!
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Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of "BRIAN PAUL EHNI via Groups.Io" <bpehni@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 6:33 PM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] The Winter issue of The Keystone Modeler is available

 

Not showing up yet.

 

 

Thanks!
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Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Smith <smithbf@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 4:54 PM
To: "the-keystone-modeler@..." <the-keystone-modeler@...>
Cc: "RealSTMFC@groups.io" <RealSTMFC@groups.io>, "PRR@PRR.groups.io" <PRR@PRR.groups.io>, "PRRPro@groups.io" <PRRPro@groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] The Winter issue of The Keystone Modeler is available

 

Folks,

 

The Winter, 2020 issue (#111) of The Keystone Modeler is now available on the PRRT&HS web site at: http://www.prrths.com/newprr_files/newPRRKeystoneModeler.htm

 

Regards,

Bruce 

Bruce Smith, Assistant webmaster, PRRT&HS


Re: The Winter issue of The Keystone Modeler is available

 

Not showing up yet.

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Smith <smithbf@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 4:54 PM
To: "the-keystone-modeler@..." <the-keystone-modeler@...>
Cc: "RealSTMFC@groups.io" <RealSTMFC@groups.io>, "PRR@PRR.groups.io" <PRR@PRR.groups.io>, "PRRPro@groups.io" <PRRPro@groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] The Winter issue of The Keystone Modeler is available

 

Folks,

 

The Winter, 2020 issue (#111) of The Keystone Modeler is now available on the PRRT&HS web site at: http://www.prrths.com/newprr_files/newPRRKeystoneModeler.htm

 

Regards,

Bruce 

Bruce Smith, Assistant webmaster, PRRT&HS


Union Oil 76 paint scheme

Norm Buckhart
 

Tony - I was told that the real one was painted up for display at the New York World’s Fair - so a one off.  Uncle Jerry weigh in here.  Norm Buckhart

Begin forwarded message:

From: "Tony Thompson" <tony@...>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Union Oil 76 paint scheme
Date: February 11, 2020 at 3:05:19 PM PST

     Years ago, a couple of the HO scale manufacturers of tank cars offered Union Oil cars in a dark blue paint scheme with an orange 76 emblem (the company colors). Several people, including no less than Richard Hendrickson, pronounced this a bogus scheme, with bright colors to attract modelers.
      But recently in browsing old issues of _Model Railroader_ from the early 1950s, I found the photo below in an Athearn ad of 1952 (they offered this scheme on a metal tank car model) -- and note the astronomical price. Can anyone supply more information about how widely used this scheme was?

Tony Thompson
tony@...







Union Oil 76 paint scheme

Tony Thompson
 

     Years ago, a couple of the HO scale manufacturers of tank cars offered Union Oil cars in a dark blue paint scheme with an orange 76 emblem (the company colors). Several people, including no less than Richard Hendrickson, pronounced this a bogus scheme, with bright colors to attract modelers.
      But recently in browsing old issues of _Model Railroader_ from the early 1950s, I found the photo below in an Athearn ad of 1952 (they offered this scheme on a metal tank car model) -- and note the astronomical price. Can anyone supply more information about how widely used this scheme was?

Tony Thompson
tony@...






CGW 1923 Box Cars

David
 

Both CGW series had the "Murphy" radial roof, which is very similar to the Hutchins radial roof except for lacking the indentations in the corners of the seam caps.

David Thompson


The Winter issue of The Keystone Modeler is available

Bruce Smith
 

Folks,


The Winter, 2020 issue (#111) of The Keystone Modeler is now available on the PRRT&HS web site at: http://www.prrths.com/newprr_files/newPRRKeystoneModeler.htm


Regards,

Bruce 

Bruce Smith, Assistant webmaster, PRRT&HS


Re: For the case somebody likes to see freight cars running

vapeurchapelon
 

Hello John,
 
it was just an "ordinary" model rr exhibition last weekend with only our modular arrangment being US-related:
 
http://www.mec-leonberg.de/HZ_2020.jpg
 
We will find another (and probably much better!) event where we would like to meet you!
 
Greetings
 
Johannes
modeling the early post-war years up to about 1953
 
Gesendet: Montag, 10. Februar 2020 um 22:12 Uhr
Von: "golden1014 via Groups.Io" <golden1014@...>
An: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [RealSTMFC] For the case somebody likes to see freight cars running
Hi Johannes, what is the event?  Stuttgart is just two hours from my home--on a good day.  John Golden, Ramstein, Germany


Re: Southwest Scale Productions

Bill Welch
 

Dan Hall is actually a Airline flight instructor and frequently away from home but his in business and you will get your doors eventually.

Bill Welch


Re: GA box car colors

Bill Welch
 

I think the schemes were simultaneous. Most of the silver & black cars had butt welded hip roof, most BCR had Radial roof as modeled by the Speedwitch kit.

Bill Welch


GA box car colors

Clark Propst
 

I'm building a Speedwitch Georgia box car...again. I painted the last one in silver and black (Have a son-in-law that's a Raiders fan ; )which I've sold long ago. I'm thinking of doing this one in bcr because I have a Speedwitch Katy car I'm going to do in yellow and am not sure two bright cars are too many? Ted doesn't give dates for the two color schemes. This has probably been hashed over before, but I'm interested now  ;  )))
Thanks for any guidance on the subject,
CW Propst


Re: Requesting instructions for Wright Trak Seaboard V10

O Fenton Wells
 

Allen Did you get your information?
Fenton

On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 7:31 PM Allen Cain <Allencaintn@...> wrote:
Clark,

I suspect that you already got what you were looking for but here is another copy of the instructions and a few pictures that I have collected off of the internet.  If you have other pics I would appreciate copies.

Allen Cain



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
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Re: ACL low sided gondolas

Paul Doggett
 

Thomas 

Thank I used microsol liquid decal film and with that I managed to salvage enough decals for what I needed together with some Champ and Speedwitch decals.

Paul Doggett.   England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 11 Feb 2020, at 17:05, thomas christensen via Groups.Io <thomasjonly@...> wrote:


Paul,
 Very nicely done. I did 2 of F&C ACL war emergency gondolas way back when and the decals were thrown out. Microscale does a nice set and Westerfield has several in both the Roman  and Gothic that I've used to piece together what is needed.
Tom Christensen 



Thomas 

I have just finished the K7 the decals were absolutely awful, thank you for your help.

Paul 
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Re: CGW 1923 Box Cars

Ray Breyer
 

Looking through their 1923 and 1932 diagram books, all of the CGW's single sheathed boxcars (except for their 1914-built Fowlers) had radial roofs. That's confirmed by the few photos I have of their single sheathed cars.

Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL



On Tuesday, February 11, 2020, 11:04:30 AM CST, golden1014 via Groups.Io <golden1014@...> wrote:


Gentlemen,

I was going through RP Cyc No. 18 last night and was surprised to read that CGW 1923 ARA single-sheathed box cars came in at least two varieties.  I read that a whole series of cars was delivered with Murphy roofs and 7-8 Murphy ends.  However, one of the photos referenced of the series with Murphy roofs seems to show a car with a round roof.  

Are there any CGW experts on board that can confirm if CGW indeed had a series of cars with 7-8 ends and Murphys roofs?

If this is true, a simple roof replacement on the F&C model will yield a nice CGW car at a reasonable prices (not Sunshine prices).

Thanks a Bunch,

John Golden
Ramstein-Miesenbach, Germany

RPM Blog: https://railroadprototypemodeler.wordpress.com/


Re: D&H Flat

Tim O'Connor
 


lol - yeah, but only if you model 1940 :-)

the whole plant was modern enough to take it apart and ship it to China


On 2/10/2020 7:45 PM, maynard stowe wrote:
Tim,
The Blooming mill is headed to Fontina for the Kaiser Steel mills.
Maynard Stowe
SP in Massachusetts


On Feb 10, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Tony

Hear hear! Those are spectacular castings at very reasonable prices. I wish I knew
what the heck they were used for! What does a "blooming mill stand" do? Were these
things highly unusual (i.e. extremely low production numbers) or were they objects
that wore out and needed to be replaced?

Tim O'



On 2/9/2020 2:07 PM, Tony Thompson wrote:

Dan Smith wrote:

This is a link to a load offered by MultiScale Digital,

    Nothing wrong with an eBay listing, but why not go directly to their site and buy it from them, saving them the fee they pay to eBay? I have bought three of their loads and like them a lot. Support these guys and buy direct!


Tony Thompson


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts <Mesta steel blooming mill stand castings.jpg>


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Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: D&H Flat

Tim O'Connor
 

Amazing pictures! It gives one perspective on the sheer SCALE of the early industrial revolution.

On 2/10/2020 5:54 PM, Andy Laurent via Groups.Io wrote:
Tim,

For some images of the Mesta Machine products and processes (including images of that blooming mill stand on PRR 425000 well flat on page 124) check out:
https://archive.org/details/plantproductofme00mest/page/124/mode/2up

Lots of good inspiration there for HD flatcar loads.

Andy L.
Wisconsin
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*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*

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