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Re: F&C resin kits

WILLIAM PARDIE
 





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Bill Pardie


Re: REA questions

Tim O'Connor
 

Don

The gold lettered scheme was introduced in 1953.

The white lettered scheme began in 1960.

Then from 1961 the lettering style changed to sans serif and the
new REA herald was introduced. At first the cars were Hunter Green
and then later Chromate Green.

Tim O'



On 2/11/2020 10:06 PM, Don DeLay via Groups.Io wrote:
I have a few questions if anyone knows the answers. What years are these cars good for and when did the paint change from dark to light green? Thanks in advance

Don DeLay

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Re: REA questions

steve_wintner
 

Based on Sunshine's instructions for their 6100 series, I believe both schemes are 1952+. REX 6275 looks like it may be in the scheme introduced in 1952. 


REA questions

Don DeLay
 

I have a few questions if anyone knows the answers. What years are these cars good for and when did the paint change from dark to light green? Thanks in advance

Don DeLay


Re: Union Oil 76 paint scheme

Tony Thompson
 

Thomas Birkett wrote:

Tony: I am Phillips Petroleum Co. retiree and conocoPhillips and now Phillips 66 Company after a merger and divorce own the rights to the 76 brand. I will try to slip by the museum tomorrow and see if I can learn anything more on the topic.

   Thanks very much. I appreciate any help. I too have heard the World's Fair story but the _Railway Age_ coverage of the event, though it showed a number of pieces of freight equipment, did not show this car. It of course may simply have been omitted.

Tony Thompson




Re: GA box car colors

Paul Doggett
 

Bill
Thank you for that tip, I have the microscale black Roman lettering.
Paul Doggett 


On 12 Feb 2020, at 18:30, Bill Welch <fgexbill@...> wrote:

You are welcome Paul. There is an oversight with the Speedwitch decals for these cars as the "XM" is missing. I used one from the Microscale Roman Data.

Bill Welch


Re: GA box car colors

Bill Welch
 

You are welcome Paul. There is an oversight with the Speedwitch decals for these cars as the "XM" is missing. I used one from the Microscale Roman Data.

Bill Welch


Re: GA box car colors

Paul Doggett
 

Bill 

Thank you I have one to build and it may well just be 19713 as it looks a two tone grey SP car behind it.

Paul Doggett.    England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 12 Feb 2020, at 16:44, Bill Welch <fgexbill@...> wrote:

I beleve that is the Radial roof version in what is for that roof the Ultra rare Aluminum or silver scheme.

Bill Welch


Re: GA box car colors

Bill Welch
 

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 11:36 PM, Clark Propst wrote:

I'll keep my eyes open at upcoming train shows for a Tichy kit similar to Ted's. If I find one I may try my hand at replacing the roof with a flat one. Now, if I could get more data on those rebuilds with the straight side posts....

CW Propst

Clark, you need to search the archives either here or on the Styrene list as I have posted photos of how I did the roof: Remove the roof ribs; sand w/250, 400, and 600 grit; apply Future/Pledge whatever they call it now; apply the narrowest Archer Aircraft Panel Line decals to mimic the butt welded seams; and paint. Easy peasy.

Bill Welch


Re: GA box car colors

Bill Welch
 

I beleve that is the Radial roof version in what is for that roof the Ultra rare Aluminum or silver scheme.

Bill Welch


Re: F&C resin kits

Dave Boss
 

Thanks guys I will try to call them. Their Web address doesn't get through 


On Wed, Feb 12, 2020, 10:36 AM Drew M. via Groups.Io <phillydrewcifer=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Dave,
   I've found it best to call F&C.

Drew Marshall in Philly, PA

Modeling the pre-Depression years.

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On Feb 12, 2020, at 09:17, Dave Boss <daveboss1976@...> wrote:
Hello Guys
                   Dose anyone know the correct e-mail address for F&C resin kits or Steve's e-mail address? I have tried both of the ones on their kit directions & they both fail to go through for me. They do match their web site e-mail address so that is no help either. Any help is appreciated Thank you 

Good Day
Dave Boss


Re: F&C resin kits

Benjamin Hom
 

Drew Marshall wrote:
"I've found it best to call F&C."

True, but keep in mind that Dave's in Australia, which is a 16 hour time difference (plus next day) from the East coast.


Ben Hom


Re: F&C resin kits

Drew M.
 

Dave,
   I've found it best to call F&C.

Drew Marshall in Philly, PA

Modeling the pre-Depression years.

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On Feb 12, 2020, at 09:17, Dave Boss <daveboss1976@...> wrote:
Hello Guys
                   Dose anyone know the correct e-mail address for F&C resin kits or Steve's e-mail address? I have tried both of the ones on their kit directions & they both fail to go through for me. They do match their web site e-mail address so that is no help either. Any help is appreciated Thank you 

Good Day
Dave Boss


Re: F&C resin kits

Todd Sullivan
 

Dave,

Have you tried the contact form on the Contact page of their website (www.fandckits.com) ?

Todd Sullivan.


F&C resin kits

Dave Boss
 

Hello Guys
                   Dose anyone know the correct e-mail address for F&C resin kits or Steve's e-mail address? I have tried both of the ones on their kit directions & they both fail to go through for me. They do match their web site e-mail address so that is no help either. Any help is appreciated Thank you 

Good Day
Dave Boss


Re: GA box car colors

Paul Doggett
 

What type of roof is on this car it’s not a great photo 


Paul Doggett.   England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 

On 12 Feb 2020, at 10:20, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...> wrote:


Clark and Friends,

John Henderson's CLASSIC FREIGHT CARS, v.1, has two photos of GA boxcars on page 39. GA 29399 from series 29300-29449 is a total rebuild of a 1924 car with steel sides, outside vertical ribs and no diagonals. It appears to be dark gray with black ends, black doors, and possibly a black roof. The roof is definitely peaked. This is not the prototype for the Tichy car, but interesting. This photo is dated to 1959.

On the same page is GA 19682 from series 19500-19799, and appears to be a steel-sided rebuilt of a USRA car, retaining the original bracing pattern. This car is BCR and definitely has a peaked roof. This photo is dated to 1956.

In Henry Maywald's CLASSIC FREIGHT CARS, v.7, on page 27 there is another GA car, 19755 from series 19500-19799. This car is sort of silver/aluminum colored, but so grimy it is hard to read the black lettering, and I can't see what color the ends and roofs are. This car has roof hatches (probably four) which are very flat and also hard to see, and is marked "RETURN EMPTY / GA.R.R. ATHENS / FERTILIZER LOADING in white to the left of the door. I cannot see for certain whether the roof is peaked or radial, but it looks slightly curved. This photo is dated 1966, and could be a rebuild from beyond our period of interest, but shows that cars in this block could be very different.

I hope this is of use to you, and doesn't muddy the waters even more.

Yours Aye,

Garth Groff  🦆


On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 1:51 PM Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:
I'm building a Speedwitch Georgia box car...again. I painted the last one in silver and black (Have a son-in-law that's a Raiders fan ; )which I've sold long ago. I'm thinking of doing this one in bcr because I have a Speedwitch Katy car I'm going to do in yellow and am not sure two bright cars are too many? Ted doesn't give dates for the two color schemes. This has probably been hashed over before, but I'm interested now  ;  )))
Thanks for any guidance on the subject,
CW Propst


Re: For the case somebody likes to see freight cars running

vapeurchapelon
 

Hello Bob and all,
 
this cement gondola is a fairly recent American Scale Models import and is very nice (and very heavy...).
 
Thanks
 
Johannes
 
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Nice to see a canister gondola with the appropriate cut-outs in the side panels.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: GA box car colors

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Clark and Friends,

John Henderson's CLASSIC FREIGHT CARS, v.1, has two photos of GA boxcars on page 39. GA 29399 from series 29300-29449 is a total rebuild of a 1924 car with steel sides, outside vertical ribs and no diagonals. It appears to be dark gray with black ends, black doors, and possibly a black roof. The roof is definitely peaked. This is not the prototype for the Tichy car, but interesting. This photo is dated to 1959.

On the same page is GA 19682 from series 19500-19799, and appears to be a steel-sided rebuilt of a USRA car, retaining the original bracing pattern. This car is BCR and definitely has a peaked roof. This photo is dated to 1956.

In Henry Maywald's CLASSIC FREIGHT CARS, v.7, on page 27 there is another GA car, 19755 from series 19500-19799. This car is sort of silver/aluminum colored, but so grimy it is hard to read the black lettering, and I can't see what color the ends and roofs are. This car has roof hatches (probably four) which are very flat and also hard to see, and is marked "RETURN EMPTY / GA.R.R. ATHENS / FERTILIZER LOADING in white to the left of the door. I cannot see for certain whether the roof is peaked or radial, but it looks slightly curved. This photo is dated 1966, and could be a rebuild from beyond our period of interest, but shows that cars in this block could be very different.

I hope this is of use to you, and doesn't muddy the waters even more.

Yours Aye,

Garth Groff  🦆


On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 1:51 PM Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:
I'm building a Speedwitch Georgia box car...again. I painted the last one in silver and black (Have a son-in-law that's a Raiders fan ; )which I've sold long ago. I'm thinking of doing this one in bcr because I have a Speedwitch Katy car I'm going to do in yellow and am not sure two bright cars are too many? Ted doesn't give dates for the two color schemes. This has probably been hashed over before, but I'm interested now  ;  )))
Thanks for any guidance on the subject,
CW Propst


Re: GA box car colors

Clark Propst
 

Bill, I checked the photos in the instructions and the few I have on my computer and it does appear the silver cars had the flat roofs. Thanks.

I'll keep my eyes open at upcoming train shows for a Tichy kit similar to Ted's. If I find one I may try my hand at replacing the roof with a flat one. Now, if I could get more data on those rebuilds with the straight side posts....

CW Propst


Re: Union Oil 76 paint scheme

tyesac@aol.com <tyesac@...>
 

Tony,
  
I used to work for Union 76's Refining & Transportation div in the early 1990's.  At the time, they celebrated their 100th anniversary and handed out some thick hardbound books about the company history.   I remember seeing B&W pictures of some of the tank cars they used.  If I recall correctly they were pre war, but the anniversary book did not have roster information.   The blue and orange color would have matched the company colors, just as you'd see in the orange & blue gas station signs.   At one time they also gave out millions of Styrofoam Union 76 balls to put on the tip of a car antenna.  I worked in the IT dept supporting the company accounting systems in Schaumburg, IL.  When I asked about current rail operations, the answer was that the preferred method to move refined product, except gasoline, which used pipelines from refineries to distribution points.   Tank car usage was via leased /per diem cars: UTLX or SHPX.    BTW, multiple oil companies would deliver gasoline via a common pipeline.   It was at the end stage of the distribution point, right before loading delivery trucks that octane & detergents additives were introduced.

Tom Casey 


-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Birkett <tnbirke@...>
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Sent: Tue, Feb 11, 2020 8:41 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Union Oil 76 paint scheme

Tony: I am Phillips Petroleum Co. retiree and conocoPhillips and now Phillips 66 Company after a merger and divorce own the rights to the 76 brand. I will try to slip by the museum tomorrow and see if I can learn anything more on the topic.
Thomas N. Birkett, PE, Bartlesville, PK



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-------- Original message --------
From: Tony Thompson <tony@...>
Date: 2/11/20 5:05 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Union Oil 76 paint scheme

     Years ago, a couple of the HO scale manufacturers of tank cars offered Union Oil cars in a dark blue paint scheme with an orange 76 emblem (the company colors). Several people, including no less than Richard Hendrickson, pronounced this a bogus scheme, with bright colors to attract modelers.
      But recently in browsing old issues of _Model Railroader_ from the early 1950s, I found the photo below in an Athearn ad of 1952 (they offered this scheme on a metal tank car model) -- and note the astronomical price. Can anyone supply more information about how widely used this scheme was?

Tony Thompson
tony@...





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