PS-1 Chronology 2017 St Louis
Allan Smith
I deleted the E-mail with a photo from the above showing the brake wheel end of a ST-SL PS-1 boxcar. That photo had a comment about a PS-1 chronology clinic at the St Louis 2017 RPM meet. Question is that clinic available to download??? and if so where and who gave the clinic. Al Smith Sonora CA
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SP&S Large Reporting Marks—Date of Introduction
Wondering if anyone here would know when the SP&S introduced their scheme with the very large SP&S reporting marks. Thank you.
Bill Welch
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Re: Yankee Clipper Kit List
Thank you Tim. I was surprised to see he had done a couple of gondolas. The boxcars on the list is like seeing an old friend after several years. I built the CP mini-box, the B&M and BAR Pratt truss cars and the 1932 ARA BAR, Norfolk Southern, CGW and an extra CGW kit and Walther's decals to do the NdeM version. Bill Dulmaine did an excellent job with his instruction, prototype history and decals. Also built the PM and C&O 1930 series kits and still have the NKP 1932 kit to build.
For NC&StL, Clinchfield, CofG 1932 cars I built the Sunshine versions. I still a Sunshine 1932 CP kit to build. Bill Welch
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Re: Grab Irons Extensions
Here are a couple of clear views of these unusual NP grabiron mounts.
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I also include a shot of a commonly seen end grab with two different brackets.
On 2/27/2020 2:01 PM, Todd Sullivan via Groups.Io wrote:
Because the left-opening door would contact (smush) the grabs if they were mounted completely on the car side. --
*Tim O'Connor* *Sterling, Massachusetts*
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Re: CMO 20040 Express Box
I got confused because I didn't know Athearn had TWO of these trucks!! THIS (attached) is the express truck with the correct wheelbase - but it is a more modern truck, without the pedestal ends and with roller bearings rather than plain bearing journal boxes. I have this Athearn truck because the SP applied them to BE-50-24 express cars, albeit with shock absorbers and plain bearings. Modifications must be made. :-\ Tim
On 2/27/2020 2:13 PM, Dennis Storzek wrote:
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 10:32 AM, BRIAN PAUL EHNI wrote: --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Accurail Ribbed Sided Box Car
Eric Hansmann
Here’s the Tahoe website for reference. http://resincarworks.com/tahoe.htm
Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andy Carlson
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 1:50 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] Accurail Ribbed Sided Box Car
For those who may haved missed it, Brian Leppert's Tahoe Model Works has a Barber S2 ride control 50-ton truck which is as close to perfect for the Milwaukee rib sided class of boxcars that will ever exist. He even tooled the truck for the uncommon for the period, but correct for the MILW, the truck spring planks. Substituting Tahoe's trucks for the kit's trucks would be my 1st improvement. -Andy Carlson Ojai CA
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Accurail Ribbed Sided Box Car
Andy Carlson
For those who may haved missed it, Brian Leppert's Tahoe Model Works has a Barber S2 ride control 50-ton truck which is as close to perfect for the Milwaukee rib sided class of boxcars that will ever exist. He even tooled the truck for the uncommon for the period, but correct for the MILW, the truck spring planks. Substituting Tahoe's trucks for the kit's trucks would be my 1st improvement. -Andy Carlson Ojai CA _._,_._,_
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Re: Accurail Ribbed Sided Box Car
Clark Propst
Glad to hear the rumors of the tooling's demise was exaggerated ; ))
CW Propst
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Re: N&W Boxcar
Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Tim, Ah!, Wabash. Thank you very much. So it is a true AC&F. Yours Aye, Garth Groff 🦆
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 12:45 PM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
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Re: CMO 20040 Express Box
Dennis Storzek
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 10:32 AM, BRIAN PAUL EHNI wrote:
WB looks too long as well.Yeah, the boxcar underframe isn't modified, so still has the 5'-6" kingpin to striker dimension. When you look at the car, the wheel has more or less the same relationship to the car end as the old PRR X29s with their 5'-0" kingpin to striker, which would indicate the passenger truck wheelbase can't be longer than 6'-6". The Tichy trucks claim 6'-0", which may be a bit short. I wonder if these cars had 36" wheels? In the photo the trucks appear to have separate bolt on pedestals, so the Tichy truck is correct for that feature, but even in the enhanced photo I can't really see the shape of the top of the frame. Dennis Storzek
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Re: Grab Irons Extensions
Dennis Storzek
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 10:46 AM, Bob Chaparro wrote:
That big plug door has to go somewhere when it's open. Just below the right end of the lower grab you'll find the door stop. Dennis Storzek
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Re: Grab Irons Extensions
mel perry
step looks shorter and closer to the end of the side sill, thus putiing the hand grap in a differen position than normal, why the different position of the step? mel perry
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020, 10:46 AM Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Grab Irons Extensions
Todd Sullivan
Because the left-opening door would contact (smush) the grabs if they were mounted completely on the car side.
Todd Sullivan.
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Re: Grab Irons Extensions
mel perry
same series of cars mel perry
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020, 10:46 AM Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
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Grab Irons Extensions
Grab Irons Extensions This boxcar appears to have extension mounts for the grab irons: https://www.flickr.com/photos/28555987@N06/8253849334/in/album-72157632195829152/ And a few more: https://www.flickr.com/photos/28555987@N06/8252776823/in/album-72157632195829152/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/28555987@N06/8252777001/in/album-72157632195829152/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/28555987@N06/8253849866/in/album-72157632195829152/ There must be a good reason for this...so what is the reason? Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: CMO 20040 Express Box
BRIAN PAUL EHNI
WB looks too long as well.
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Thanks! Brian Ehni (Sent from my iPhone)
On Feb 27, 2020, at 11:33 AM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
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Re: CMO 20040 Express Box
Wrong mini-kit. The one you want is the DSS&A box car with 10-6 5/5 S corner ends. :-) I suggest using the ends as masters for making copies. Sunshine also made 10-6 4/5 S corner ends for the SP A-50-12 kit. Those are in my "to be copied" pile as well. Tim O'Connor
On 2/27/2020 1:07 PM, Rich C via Groups.Io wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: CMO 20040 Express Box
Rich C
Tim, I mentioned to Tim yesterday, that the ends were "W" corner not square and posted a link to Steam Era Freight Cars for the PDF on the modified height cars Rich Christie
On Thursday, February 27, 2020, 11:35:27 AM CST, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
Tim - solution is the SUNSHINE mini-kit which included those ends. On 2/26/2020 2:38 PM, killercarp via Groups.Io wrote: > > Once you solve the truck problem there’s also the 10’6” high 5/5 > square corner ends to vex a builder. > > Tim VanMersbergen > > -- *Tim O'Connor* *Sterling, Massachusetts*
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Re: Yankee Clipper Kit List
On 2/26/2020 1:10 PM, Bill Welch
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Wondering if anyone has a complete list of the kits with stock numbers offered several years ago by "Yankee Clipper?" I understand these were done for Bill Dulmaine by Steve Funaro but still interested in knowing the kits included originally under the Yankee Clipper label. Thank you. Bill this is all I have -- 1923D B&M XM-1 steel w/ reverse Creco door BMO B&M XM-1 reverse Creco door BM1 B&M XM-1 ribbed roof, Youngstown door BM1A B&M XM-1 flat roof, Youngstown door BMSC B&M XM-1 stockcar rebuilt 1945 MTC1 Mystic Terminal XM-1 WAG1 WAG boxcar ribbed roof WAG1A WAG boxcar flat roof 1000 BAR boxcar Hutchins end/wood door 1100 BAR boxcar flat end/wood door 3000 BAR boxcar Hutchins end/steel door 3100 BAR boxcar flat end/steel door xxxx PRR GSh gondola xxxx MEC GS gondola xxxx MEC GS gondola rebuilt w/ side extensions xxxx B&M GS gondola 1929 CP mini-box 1930.80 C&O 8000-9499 Creco door 1930.82 Pere Marquette 82000-83499 1930.85 C&O 8000-9499 Youngstown door 1930.95 C&O 9500-9999 double door 1932.00 1932 ARA steel box 4/4E flat roof NYC 1932.10 1932 ARA steel box 4/4E flat roof PRR #36986 1932.20 1932 ARA steel box 4/4E rect roof SOO 1932.21 1932 ARA steel box 4/4E flat roof SOO 1932.30 1932 ARA steel box 4/4E flat roof C&O owned 3 cars 1932.40 1932 ARA steel box 4/4E rect roof MP 1932.50 1932 ARA steel box 4/4E rect roof MEC 1932.60 1932 ARA steel box 5/4E rect roof BAR 1932.70 1932 ARA steel box 4/4E rect roof UP #182500 1932.80 1932 ARA steel box Dreadnaught ends rect roof CRR 1932.90 1932 ARA steel box 4/4E rect roof CofG 1932.100 1932 ARA steel box 4/4E viking roof Norfolk Southern 1932.110 1932 ARA steel box radial roof NKP 1932.120 1932 ARA steel box Buck ends viking roof ERIE 1932.310 1932 ARA steel box radial roof C&O 1932.410 1932 ARA steel box Murphy ends/panel door CGW -- Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: N&W Boxcar
WABASH series 90000 to 90549 were welded box cars with 8 foot doors built by ACF in 1960. The N&W lettered cars simply had a "3" prefix applied to the car number. And some cars were never renumbered, evidently. Tim O'Connor
On 2/27/2020 4:56 AM, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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