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coupler distance over car end
vapeurchapelon
Hello friends,
I have several cars where the coupling distance seems to be or definitely is too large, so I have to reposition the coupler box. I already use Kadee #153 couplers together with #178 box (where possible). My question is if there are any rules regarding the correct position = distance of coupler face over end beam or running board, or if I just could do as short as possible to be correct - just making sure that the coupler box front is gap-free with the end beam (which I doubt). Any help will be very appreciated. Many thanks an greetings Johannes modeling the early post-war years up to about 1953
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Re: Stock Cars NP 81745 & CBQ 56315 circa 1926
Hudson Leighton <hudsonl@...>
http://www.nprha.org/NP%20AFE%20Index/NP_1923.pdf
page 15 Who knows, worn out trucks, had a bunch of 70 ton trucks in stock, had a customer taking about raising elephants. I will see what the AFE file says when I scan it in a couple of months. -Hudson
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Re: Stock Cars NP 81745 & CBQ 56315 circa 1926
Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Does anybody else think 70-ton trucks under NP 81745 sounds a bit odd? 40-ton trucks would be fine for a stock car. Is this a misprint, or would there be a reason for such heavy trucks under such a light car? Yours Aye, Garth Groff 🦆
On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 1:10 PM Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:
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Re: Stock Cars NP 81745 & CBQ 56315 circa 1926
Chuck Soule
The "A" on the stock yard building in the background suggests the photo is cropped from a NP Joint Facilities Book. The date of 8-28 in the lower right corner is consistent with the period the books were prepared. I believe there may be a copy of the volume covering the Billings joint facilities at the railway museum in Duluth. The facility would have been documented if it was owned by the NP but shared under a joint facilities agreement with the CB&Q and/or GN.
I don't believe the Jt. Fac. volumes at Pacific Northwest Railway Archive include Billings. Chuck Soule
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Re: Stock Cars NP 81745 & CBQ 56315 circa 1926
Nelson Moyer
Thanks for posting. Looks like the steel frame is newly painted without painting the slats. Never seen that.
On Mar 2, 2020, at 11:57 AM, Hudson Leighton <hudsonl@...> wrote:
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Twin Cities Mpls St Paul Modelers Retreat - (an RPM by any other name)
np328
Date March 13, 14th of 2020, Friday late afternoon into the evening, Saturday morning and afternoon.
Location: 11810 52nd Ave North, Plymouth, MN - same location as last few years. Pre Registration: $20 includes lunch, which prior has been a great perk. You may e-mail registration and transfer fund via PayPal to mhry19@... Pre-Registration deadline is Monday the 9th. or $25 at the door (which IMHO is still a good deal). Several local layouts will be open for tours. Ken Zieska is the organizer available at the above <mhry19@...> e-mail address. Also at http://www.tcdnmra.org/ I'll see if I can get a list of presenters and presentations out ASAP. Jim Dick - Roseville, MN
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Re: Stock Cars NP 81745 & CBQ 56315 circa 1926
Hudson Leighton <hudsonl@...>
This picture seems to have disappeared here is a reload.
-Hudson
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Re: Stock Cars NP 81745 & CBQ 56315 circa 1926
Rupert Gamlen
CB&Q 56315 was built by the Burlington at its Galesburg shops in 1926-27, part of class SM-18A group numbered 56200-56699. They were constructed using
National Dump centre sills from retired GA-12 and GE-2 gondolas which had been built in 1914. Some were later fitted with an upper deck, signified by the letter “D” above the road number.
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Eric Hansmann
Sent: Tuesday, 3 March 2020 7:10 am To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Stock Cars NP 81745 & CBQ 56315 circa 1926
Nice photo! The CB&Q car looks pretty new.
BTW, I see 8-28 in the lower left corner under the sill at the door. That might be the photo month/year.
Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
From:
main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Hudson Leighton
Stock Cars NP 81745 & CBQ 56315 circa 1926 _._,_._,_
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Re: Stock Cars NP 81745 & CBQ 56315 circa 1926
William Hirt
CB&Q 36' Stock Car Class SM18-A (Series 56200-56699) was
built in 1928 by CB&Q Galesburg. The lettering on the car
looks fairly new in the photo, so it maybe not long after it was
built. Bill Hirt
On 3/2/2020 10:38 AM, Hudson Leighton
wrote:
Stock Cars NP 81745 & CBQ 56315 circa 1926
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Re: Stock Cars NP 81745 & CBQ 56315 circa 1926
Eric Hansmann
Nice photo! The CB&Q car looks pretty new.
BTW, I see 8-28 in the lower left corner under the sill at the door. That might be the photo month/year.
Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hudson Leighton
Stock Cars NP 81745 & CBQ 56315 circa 1926
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Re: Grab Irons Extensions
I think they overlap each other when opened. On the Seaboard car, you could move one or both doors out of the way, because when closed they were offset all the way to one end.
On 3/2/2020 1:01 PM, Jon Miller wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Grab Irons Extensions
Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
On 3/2/2020 9:58 AM, Tim O'Connor
wrote:
It's a stretch to call MILW 16800 a box car :-) I'm curious what all the
doors do. I can't figure out how the extra ones make the
opening wider? -- Jon Miller For me time stopped in 1941 Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User SPROG User NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS
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Re: Grab Irons Extensions
It's a stretch to call MILW 16800 a box car :-)
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It looks like 16800 was a box car BODY dropped onto a 53 foot flat car. Pretty much the weirdest rebuild I've seen. ====================================
On 3/2/2020 11:57 AM, spsalso via Groups.Io wrote:
GN had at least one boxcar with "grab iron extensions": --
*Tim O'Connor* *Sterling, Massachusetts*
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Re: Grab Irons Extensions
spsalso
GN had at least one boxcar with "grab iron extensions":
GN 29001 40', 20' opening Also having grab iron extensions were: SAL 20200-20209 40', 20' opening And now for something a little different: MILW 16800 50', 30' opening Not only were the grabs mounted on extensions, but so were the side ladders. (all dimensions approximate) Ed Edward Sutorik
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Stock Cars NP 81745 & CBQ 56315 circa 1926
Hudson Leighton <hudsonl@...>
Stock Cars NP 81745 & CBQ 56315 circa 1926
NP 81745 blt. ?? as NP 90145, in 1923 under AFE 5118-23 was renumbered to NP 81745 and upgraded with 70 ton trucks, in 1933 under AFE 5024-33 it was dismantled.
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Reminder - Toronto Railway Prototype Modellers Meet 2020
Richard McQuade
A brief reminder that later this month the annual Toronto Railway Prototype Modellers Meet will be held on Saturday, March 21st from 8:30 am to 4:00pm at Humber College in Toronto. Complete information including a map is available on our website at:
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Re: The New York Central in 1928-1929
spsalso
I "found" NYC 1904.
It was an 0-6-0T Dummy. Built as NYC&HR 10 in September of 1914. Retired December 1932. Ed Edward Sutorik
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Re: SP&S Large Reporting Marks—Date of Introduction
Don DeLay
>The 14000 to 14499 were built in 1957 at St Cloud and did not have the billboard letters originally.
Out of the 20-something photos I have of these cars, only one (14241) has the large initials. I believe very few of the fifty-footers received this lettering compared to the forty-footers since there were more classes of 40' cars. Don DeLay
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Re: Grab Irons Extensions
Dennis Storzek
On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 07:18 AM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
CB&Q 41891 attachedWell, they were red. I knew they were red. :-) Dennis
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Re: Grab Irons Extensions
CB&Q 41891 attached
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On 2/29/2020 10:55 PM, John Monrad wrote:
GN combo door XMs had 6 ft plug doors, therefore lacked extended grabs. However, CB&Q combo door cars in class XM-2 had extended grabs to accomodate 8 ft plug doors. --
*Tim O'Connor* *Sterling, Massachusetts*
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