Re: "Dedicated" freight car service
Benjamin Hom
Bill Keene asked: "What is the rough date that the X29F box cars went into service? Would these have been in service during the circle keystone era?" c. 1958. They are post-circle keystone era; the last Class X29 rebuilds to be painted in CK were the X29D. Ben Hom
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] "Dedicated" freight car service
Bill Keene
Elden,
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What is the rough date that the X29F box cars went into service? Would these have been in service during the circle keystone era? My knowledge of the PRR is quite limited thus this rather basic question. Thanks & Happy Modeling, Bill Keene Irvine, CA
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] "Dedicated" freight car service
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Gang;
This is a dedicated service PRR X29F in appliance service to GE, with STB load restraining equipment. They were specially rebuilt from X29 u/f’s expressly for this purpose.
Elden Gatwood
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Charles Peck
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 7:06 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] "Dedicated" freight car service
GE's Appliance Park in Louisville KY got a dedicated group of high-cube cars, not all from just one road. Park opened in 1951. Chuck Peck
On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 6:42 PM np328 <jcdworkingonthenp@...> wrote:
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Re: Shrink wrap
Eric Hansmann
I used a similar technique for tarp covered loads. Attached are a couple images. I start with a pad of chipboard from a cereal box and glue Styrofoam shapes onto it. Then I covered the shapes with wrapping tissue paper, the kind Mont recommends. I sprayed the final form with an almond color from a rattle can then lightly dusted with a sooty color. Sorry for the blurry second image but it’s the only one I could find quickly to share.
I can’t believe the photo files are dated May 2011. Was it really that long ago?
Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mont Switzer
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 6:10 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Shrink wrap
I like to use tissue paper like what comes with a new shirt. I cut it to the dimensions of a tarp, typically 12 x 12. Lay it or them over the object and tack it in place with Elmer's. This will not look like shrink wrap nor should it. When satisfied with the coverage paint it dark gray or grimy black.
Remember, tarps were pretty stiff (heavy) and did not always conform to the shape of the object being covered.
Tarps were tied down with ropes, wire or even nailed to the car floor.
Mont Switzer
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Re: Consumer Warning Labels
Brian Termunde
Micro-Trains (N Scale) does this to a degree. See attached - sorry that this particular car is outside our time frame, but it does show what they list.
Take Care,
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, Utah
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] "Dedicated" freight car service
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Group;
Thank you for all your great input on this subject! It added greatly to my knowledge of how diverse all these services were.
Thanks!
Elden Gatwood
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 8:52 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] "Dedicated" freight car service
Friends,
Though what I noticed was beyond our period, I remember that some WP 50' DD PS-1 (which were delivered within our period) ended their days carrying spent automobile batteries out of West Sacramento on the Sacramento Northern. The cars were
marked "Lead Battery Loading Only" or some such wording. The cars were contaminated, much like a cars in hide or fish service, and were probably scrapped soon thereafter. The several cars I saw were 50', which might be odd for such service, but not if the
management was trying to squeeze a few more bucks out of cars that were already destined for scrap.
Yours Aye,
On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 12:46 PM Dave Parker via Groups.Io <spottab=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Alcohol
Tony Thompson
Um, I didn't mean making cocktails during op sessions -- or at the workbench. Just after completing a project! Of course those not consuming alcohol at all will miss the multiple-use feature. Tony Thompson
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Re: MEK...was Consumer Warning Labels
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From: jack.f.mullen@... To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Sent: 2020-03-09 7:36:47 PM Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] MEK...was Consumer Warning Labels On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 07:55 AM, Jack Burgess wrote: Our hardware store had a MEK substitute but I read that it didn’t work on styrene like MEKExactly what I found. Presumably the substitute is effective as a paint thinner, but it's pretty useless for welding plastic. Jack Mullen -- Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Alcohol
Tony, some railroads observe Rule G. And some observe the exceptions to the rule. C. Peck
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Re: MEK...was Consumer Warning Labels
Jack Mullen
On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 07:55 AM, Jack Burgess wrote:
Our hardware store had a MEK substitute but I read that it didn’t work on styrene like MEKExactly what I found. Presumably the substitute is effective as a paint thinner, but it's pretty useless for welding plastic. Jack Mullen
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Re: Alcohol
Tony Thompson
Charles Peck wrote:
Yeah, but you can make cocktails with Everclear. Multiple use! Tony Thompson
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Re: Alcohol
On Mar 9, 2020, at 16:13, Jack Mullen <jack.f.mullen@gmail.com> wrote:
Add paint stores and chandleries; it's a fine cleaning sovent. If you think of using it for hand sanitizers, though, it probably doensn't meet US Pharmacopeia standards — "Don't worry, boys, it's just a furry with a syringe on top." F. Feghoot
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Re: Prototype info on labels, was the hijacked thread RE: [RealSTMFC] Consumer Warning Labels
Randy Hammill
Well, Branchline put the paint scheme date on the box.
I can’t speak for other manufacturers, but I’m sure the majority are happy to answer questions when asked. I doubt we are unique in that regard, but message received. More information on the labels/website. —
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Re: Alcohol
Yes, I have in the past bought alcohol at such places. Can't buy from an empty shelf. Chuck Peck
On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 7:00 PM Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:
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Re: Alcohol
Jack Mullen
Try the paint department at a hardware or home improvement store for isopropol. Demand there doesn't seem to be impacted by the Corona crisis.
Jack Mullen
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Re: Shrink wrap
Mont Switzer
I like to use tissue paper like what comes with a new shirt. I cut it to the dimensions of a tarp, typically 12 x 12. Lay it or them over the object and tack it in place with Elmer's. This will not look like shrink wrap nor should it. When
satisfied with the coverage paint it dark gray or grimy black.
Remember, tarps were pretty stiff (heavy) and did not always conform to the shape of the object being covered.
Tarps were tied down with ropes, wire or even nailed to the car floor.
Mont Switzer
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From: Allen Cain <Allencaintn@...>
Date: 3/9/20 5:36 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Shrink wrap
Would stretch wrap give the effect you are seeking?
The stuff that movers use is very thin and stretches a lot. Available at Home Depot and most self storage placed.
Allen Cain
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Re: Alcohol
Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
I was told yesterday by a person at Walgreens that all alcohol is selling fast because of the corona virus scare. Roger Huber Deer Creek Locomotive Works
On Monday, March 9, 2020, 05:56:25 PM CDT, Charles Peck <lnnrr152@...> wrote:
Stripping paint is my usual use, sometimes just lifting lettering. As for local stores, Publix supermarket, Walmart, Walgreens, and CVS. I also priced Everclear ethyl alcohol but for only 75%, it was way too costly. Chuck Peck On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 6:42 PM Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
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Re: Alcohol
Nelson Moyer
Walmart, Walgreen, CVS, etc. all sell 70% and 91% isopropanol for under $2 quart.
Nelson Moyer
On Mar 9, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Charles Peck <lnnrr152@...> wrote:
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Re: Alcohol
Stripping paint is my usual use, sometimes just lifting lettering. As for local stores, Publix supermarket, Walmart, Walgreens, and CVS. I also priced Everclear ethyl alcohol but for only 75%, it was way too costly. Chuck Peck
On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 6:42 PM Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
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Re: Shrink wrap
On Mar 9, 2020, at 14:56, Michael Watnoski <freestatesystems1@comcast.net> wrote:
Did you perhaps mispronounce "silkspan"? The tissue used for covering balsa model aircraft came to mind when I first saw this thread, and so did that other water-shrunk covering material. My only concern would be with the adhesive, which should dry quickly and be resistant to water while the shrinking is in process. — "Don't worry, boys, it's just a furry with a syringe on top." F. Feghoot
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