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Re: Alcohol

Charles Peck
 

Yes, I have in the past bought alcohol at such places.  Can't buy from an empty shelf.
Chuck Peck

On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 7:00 PM Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:
Walmart, Walgreen, CVS, etc. all sell 70% and 91% isopropanol for under $2 quart.

Nelson Moyer

On Mar 9, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Charles Peck <lnnrr152@...> wrote:

I am out of 90% isopropyl alcohol.  Local stores have none, not even 70%. 
What are you guys using as a substitute?
Chuck Peck


Re: Alcohol

Jack Mullen
 

Try the paint department at a hardware or home improvement store for isopropol.  Demand there doesn't seem to be impacted by the Corona crisis. 

Jack Mullen


Re: Shrink wrap

Mont Switzer
 

I like to use tissue paper like what comes with a new shirt.  I cut it to the dimensions of a tarp, typically 12 x 12.  Lay it or them over the object and tack it in place with Elmer's.  This will not look like shrink wrap nor should it.  When satisfied with the coverage paint it dark gray or grimy black.  

Remember, tarps were pretty stiff (heavy) and did not always conform to the shape of the object being covered.

Tarps were tied down with ropes, wire or even nailed to the car floor.

Mont Switzer 



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-------- Original message --------
From: Allen Cain <Allencaintn@...>
Date: 3/9/20 5:36 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Shrink wrap

Would stretch wrap give the effect you are seeking?

The stuff that movers use is very thin and stretches a lot. Available at Home Depot and most self storage placed.

Allen Cain


Re: Alcohol

Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
 

I was told yesterday by a person at Walgreens that all alcohol is selling fast because of the corona virus scare.

Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works


On Monday, March 9, 2020, 05:56:25 PM CDT, Charles Peck <lnnrr152@...> wrote:


Stripping paint is my usual use, sometimes just lifting lettering.
As for local stores, Publix supermarket, Walmart, Walgreens, and CVS.
I also priced Everclear ethyl alcohol but for only 75%, it was way too
costly.  
Chuck Peck

On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 6:42 PM Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
Chuck,

1) Um, it might help if you told us what you are doing with it so we know where this is going... 😉

2) I would assume that when you say "Local stores" you have checked your local big box drug store?

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Charles Peck <lnnrr152@...>
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 5:32 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Alcohol
 
I am out of 90% isopropyl alcohol.  Local stores have none, not even 70%. 
What are you guys using as a substitute?
Chuck Peck


Re: Alcohol

Nelson Moyer
 

Walmart, Walgreen, CVS, etc. all sell 70% and 91% isopropanol for under $2 quart.

Nelson Moyer

On Mar 9, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Charles Peck <lnnrr152@...> wrote:

I am out of 90% isopropyl alcohol.  Local stores have none, not even 70%. 
What are you guys using as a substitute?
Chuck Peck


Re: Alcohol

Charles Peck
 

Stripping paint is my usual use, sometimes just lifting lettering.
As for local stores, Publix supermarket, Walmart, Walgreens, and CVS.
I also priced Everclear ethyl alcohol but for only 75%, it was way too
costly.  
Chuck Peck

On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 6:42 PM Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
Chuck,

1) Um, it might help if you told us what you are doing with it so we know where this is going... 😉

2) I would assume that when you say "Local stores" you have checked your local big box drug store?

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Charles Peck <lnnrr152@...>
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 5:32 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Alcohol
 
I am out of 90% isopropyl alcohol.  Local stores have none, not even 70%. 
What are you guys using as a substitute?
Chuck Peck


Re: Shrink wrap

Nolan Hinshaw
 

On Mar 9, 2020, at 14:56, Michael Watnoski <freestatesystems1@...> wrote:

Try wet tissue paper.
Did you perhaps mispronounce "silkspan"? The tissue used for covering balsa model aircraft came to mind when I first saw this thread, and so did that other water-shrunk covering material. My only concern would be with the adhesive, which should dry quickly and be resistant to water while the shrinking is in process.

"Don't worry, boys, it's just a furry with a syringe on top."
F. Feghoot


Re: Alcohol

Bruce Smith
 

Chuck,

1) Um, it might help if you told us what you are doing with it so we know where this is going... 😉

2) I would assume that when you say "Local stores" you have checked your local big box drug store?

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Charles Peck <lnnrr152@...>
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 5:32 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Alcohol
 
I am out of 90% isopropyl alcohol.  Local stores have none, not even 70%. 
What are you guys using as a substitute?
Chuck Peck


Re: Shrink wrap

Tim O'Connor
 


Traditional is tissue paper (gift wrap) with a light coat of model airplane dope. Or aluminum foil that is painted tarp color




-----Original Message-----

From: rdkirkham@...
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Sent: 2020-03-09 5:44:21 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Shrink wrap

Is it meant to be transparent?  If not, is it meant to be textured in a specific way? 

 

I’m trying to figure out why spray painting it the colour of the wrap is insufficient?

 

Rob 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Townsend via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 2:12 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Shrink wrap

 

I have a more or less cylindrical styrene item, but with compound curves, that I want to wrap snugly (not like a draped tarp) for use as a flatcar load. I've thought about shrink wrap, but I am concerned about the heat melting the item. Does anyone have any experience with using shrink wrap over a styrene item? Can anyone suggest an alternative?

Richard Townsend

Lincoln City, OR

 

 




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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Alcohol

Charles Peck
 

I am out of 90% isopropyl alcohol.  Local stores have none, not even 70%. 
What are you guys using as a substitute?
Chuck Peck


Re: B&LE 82000 series box cars

Douglas Harding
 

82001 may be one of the cars Clark is seeking. The cars the MSTL acquired in 1941 were built in 1913 as double sheathed wood cars with fish belly underframes. They are reported to have “Mogul” ends.

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Galatowitsch
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 8:55 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] B&LE 82000 series box cars

 

Clark - Here is info I have for this series:

Numbers 

Inside Length

Width 

Height 

Outside Length

Width 

Height 

Doors Width

Height 

Capacity Cube

LBS (000)

No of Cars

Notes

82001

40'6" 

9'4" 

10'5" 

44'4" 

10'8" 

15'1" 

8' 

9'10" 

4035

110

1

GSC lot 745 3/62 boxcar ex GSC GV-5

82100 - 82103 

60'8" 

9'2" 

11'8" 

68' 

10'8" 

15'6" 

10' 

11'1" 

6440

132

4

ACF lot 11-06374 1/66 boxcar XML7 class 60ft non-Precision design 

82500 - 82529 

50'6" 

9'2" 

10'6" 

55'6" 

9'11" 

14'11" 

14' 

9'9" 

4873

154

1?

EJ&E ?/66? boxcar ex EJ&E

82550 - 82569 

50'6" 

9' 

10'6" 

55'6" 

9'11" 

14'11" 

14' 

9'9" 

--- 

154

20

? /? boxcar

82650 - 82651

50'6" 

9' 

10'6" 

55'6" 

9'11" 

14'11" 

14' 

9'9" 

--- 

154

2

 


BLE 82554
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1179676

BLE 82508
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2421538

Mark Galatowitsch
Saint Paul, MN


Re: Tank Car CLCX 206 1926 +/-

Robert Heninger
 

Hudson, 

The sugar beet refinery was in East Grand Forks, Minnesota. The NP didn’t have much of a presence in Grand Forks, ND.

Regards, 
Bob Heninger
Minot, ND.


Re: Tank Car CLCX 206 1926 +/-

Paul Woods <paul@...>
 

Strike that....tank cars could be for molasses for cattle feed, which means this factory could be a sugar refinery.  I have since found photos of a large sugar factory at Drayton N.D. that looked a bit like this.  Was there anything similar at Grand Forks?


Re: Tank Car CLCX 206 1926 +/-

Hudson Leighton <hudsonl@...>
 

If my guess of Grand Forks, ND is correct, it's a sugar beet plant.

-Hudson


Re: Shrink wrap

Michael Watnoski
 

Try wet tissue paper.

m

On 3/9/2020 5:12 PM, Richard Townsend via Groups.Io wrote:
Can anyone suggest an alternative?


Re: Tank Car CLCX 206 1926 +/-

Paul Woods <paul@...>
 

Forget the tank cars....check out that amazing brick building!  Any idea what was produced there?  The nearest tank has 'LIVE STOCK FEED' painted on the side so I'm guessing some kind of meat packing plant?

Regards
Paul Woods
NYCSHS #7172
Whangarei, NZ


Re: Shrink wrap

Robert kirkham
 

Is it meant to be transparent?  If not, is it meant to be textured in a specific way? 

 

I’m trying to figure out why spray painting it the colour of the wrap is insufficient?

 

Rob 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Townsend via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 2:12 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Shrink wrap

 

I have a more or less cylindrical styrene item, but with compound curves, that I want to wrap snugly (not like a draped tarp) for use as a flatcar load. I've thought about shrink wrap, but I am concerned about the heat melting the item. Does anyone have any experience with using shrink wrap over a styrene item? Can anyone suggest an alternative?

Richard Townsend

Lincoln City, OR

 

 


Re: Consumer Warning Labels

Paul Woods <paul@...>
 

And at the end of the day, that's what this wonderful hobby is all about.  I reckon we should never cringe at such a sight, we should only take pride in the fact that we know better and give thanks for the good people who write books and take the time to teach us.  Once upon a time I was only dimly aware of what equipment belonged to which era and now I can make a fairly accurate estimation of the start and end dates of a particular paint scheme for the railroads around my chosen area....it all comes down to experience.

Regards
Paul Woods
NYCSHS #7172
Whangarei, NZ


On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:30 AM, Brian Carlson wrote:
I cringed but the owner was happy. 

Brian J. Carlson 


Re: Shrink wrap

Allen Cain
 

Would stretch wrap give the effect you are seeking?

The stuff that movers use is very thin and stretches a lot. Available at Home Depot and most self storage placed.

Allen Cain


Re: Prototype info on labels, was the hijacked thread RE: [RealSTMFC] Consumer Warning Labels

Dennis Storzek
 

On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 02:09 PM, Bill Welch wrote:
I suggest people wanting this kind of labeling put their financial resources together, purchase one of the manufacturers or start a new company labeling their models and kits with that information and see how it goes.

Bill Welch
Where is the LIKE button when I need it?

Dennis Storzek