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Re: C&O 8000-9499 boxcar end diagram

Benjamin Scanlon
 
Edited

Hullo Dennis

unsure, but here's an image for reference, C&O History magazine, March 2005. 
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Ben Scanlon
Tottenham, England


Re: C&O 8000-9499 boxcar end diagram

Benjamin Scanlon
 

Thanks David

May be better than the rather rough diagram I'm working with. 
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Ben Scanlon
Tottenham, England


Re: KCS boxcar

Paul Doggett
 

Rich 

A nicely built model.

Paul Doggett.   England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 14 Mar 2020, at 01:51, Richard Remiarz <rremiarz@...> wrote:

 Attached are photos of a KCS Interim AAR boxcar I just completed.  It was built from a Speedwitch kit.  The flat finish dried less than 2 hours before packing the car and bringing it to the Twin Cities Modeler’s Retreat.  Nothing like a deadline to drive progress.

The photos were taken at the Modeler’s Retreat tonite on a module I will be using tomorrow for a scenery clinic.

Sincerely,
Rich Remiarz 
Vadnais Heights, MN

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Re: Soo Line boxcar

Dennis Storzek
 

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 08:47 PM, Richard Remiarz wrote:
I don’t know if this part was unique to the later cars that were modeled by the Sunshine kit, or if it was used on all series of Soo sawtooth boxcars.
You mean this: https://realstmfc.groups.io/g/main/album?id=43499

I've never seen one on any Soo car with a fishbelly UF, nor is it shown on the Haskell & Barker drawings of the early twenties cars (the prototype for that kit) so surmise they were only on the later cars. The only one of the 1926, 28, 29, and 30 built cars I've been able to inspect is the 1929 car at the Illinois Railway Museum, where those pix were taken.

Dennis Storzek


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Re: Soo Line boxcar

Richard Remiarz
 

Elliot,

I just found the instructions for the Sunshine kit, and now understand what you are referring to.  Neither the instructions for the Speedwitch kit or Ted Culotta’s article on the cars showed this part, so I didn’t include it on the model.  I don’t know if this part was unique to the later cars that were modeled by the Sunshine kit, or if it was used on all series of Soo sawtooth boxcars.  I also looked at a number of photos of Soo sawtooth boxcars.  The few that showed the brake cylinder did not seem to contain the mechanism shown on the Sunshine instructions.  Hopefully one of our Soo Line experts can shed more light on this subject.

Sincerely,
Rich Remiarz


On Mar 13, 2020, at 9:26 PM, Elliot Courtney via Groups.Io <ecourtne@...> wrote:



Rich,
Thank you for the great info! What did you use for the rod that the brake chain “slider” rides on while connected to the chain?  Brass strip? Size? It connects the brake cylinder to the rigging via the chain.

I hope I am explaining it well, the sunshine instructions had a picture of this assembly, supposedly unique to the sawtooth cars.
Elliot 


Re: Soo Line Boxcar Footnote

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

Also the chain on most applications consists of three round rungs with an elongated rung on each end.

Bill Pardie



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-------- Original message --------
From: "Elliot Courtney via Groups.Io" <ecourtne@...>
Date: 3/13/20 4:26 PM (GMT-10:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Soo Line boxcar

Rich,
Thank you for the great info! What did you use for the rod that the brake chain “slider” rides on while connected to the chain?  Brass strip? Size? It connects the brake cylinder to the rigging via the chain.

I hope I am explaining it well, the sunshine instructions had a picture of this assembly, supposedly unique to the sawtooth cars.
Elliot 


Re: Soo Line boxcar

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

Elliot:

I make up schackels from .010 brass wire for this.
Sounds complicated but is really easy and quick.  Also looks great.

Bill Pardie



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-------- Original message --------
From: "Elliot Courtney via Groups.Io" <ecourtne@...>
Date: 3/13/20 4:26 PM (GMT-10:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Soo Line boxcar

Rich,
Thank you for the great info! What did you use for the rod that the brake chain “slider” rides on while connected to the chain?  Brass strip? Size? It connects the brake cylinder to the rigging via the chain.

I hope I am explaining it well, the sunshine instructions had a picture of this assembly, supposedly unique to the sawtooth cars.
Elliot 


Re: Soo Line boxcar

Elliot Courtney
 

Rich,
Thank you for the great info! What did you use for the rod that the brake chain “slider” rides on while connected to the chain?  Brass strip? Size? It connects the brake cylinder to the rigging via the chain.

I hope I am explaining it well, the sunshine instructions had a picture of this assembly, supposedly unique to the sawtooth cars.
Elliot 


KCS boxcar

Richard Remiarz
 

Attached are photos of a KCS Interim AAR boxcar I just completed.  It was built from a Speedwitch kit.  The flat finish dried less than 2 hours before packing the car and bringing it to the Twin Cities Modeler’s Retreat.  Nothing like a deadline to drive progress.

The photos were taken at the Modeler’s Retreat tonite on a module I will be using tomorrow for a scenery clinic.

Sincerely,
Rich Remiarz 
Vadnais Heights, MN


Re: Help Identifying Boxcar Ends.

Steve Haas
 

 

**** I must have mis transcribed the GN group. ****

 

Welcome to the group! (GRIN) I can’t begin to tell you how many times I’ve made that mistake in my life!

**** I mentioned the flat bottom of the top rib in a second post. ****

 

Yes, you did. It was late last night as I responded to those messages . . . . . .

 

Best regards,

 

Steve

 

Steve Haas

Snoqualmie, WA

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Re: Help Identifying Boxcar Ends.

Steve Haas
 

Tim writes:

**** Thanks Steve. You're right but I have ignored the treatment of the flat-bottom top major rib because EVERYONE in the hobby biz has ignored it (in HO scale) with one Accurail exception (I think; from memory). ****

Your memory is pretty good - Accurail does make a rthin/3/3 end for some of it's reefer kits. Bill Welch posted a teaser shot a year or so ago ahead of one of his clinics. The pic did include a rthin/3/4 end. I queried him off list and he turned me on to the Accurail ends. I've got four sets here that I'm attempting to convert into a viable master suitable for casting enough in resin to cover my needs (Four dozen or so for GN, SP&S, and perhaps other cars). Unfortunately, my skills at removing ladders, brake housings, and tack boards from curve services is lacking . . . . . . ☹

**** There are dozens and dozens of examples where that feature is missing from our models. :-( ****

Yep Almost 20K cars with the IDN-2 end. I'm doing some Excel work to see if I can't do a nice job of summarizing Ed's data by various IDN-2 configurations - maybe a nice summary might temp someone to consider marketing additional end options.

Best regards,

Steve

Steve Haas
Snoqualmie, WA


Re: pdf attachment errors

Paul Woods <paul@...>
 

Hi John and Group

Yes, I frequently get taken to the group home page instead of the attachment I had clicked on in an e-mail.  This is primarily .jpg's in my case but I have also come across .pdf's that won't load.  I have found that I can sometimes view the offending attachment by going into the list of messages on the groups.io site and clicking on the link there, but it is not always available.

Regards
Paul Woods


C&O 8000-9499 boxcar end diagram

David
 

These are the AMC version of the 1920s ARA steel-sheathed box, with the "innie" version of the early Dreadnaught end.

This drawing shows the taller Dreadnaught end on N&W class BT, but the general profile is the same:
https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=14919

David Thompson


Hutchins Dry Lading Roof?

David
 

I'm inclined to think this is someone's outside metal roof, and not any sort of all-steel roof.

David Thompson


Re: Hutchins Dry Lading Roof?

Dennis Storzek
 

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 12:23 PM, Gene Deimling wrote:
It appears to be a Viking roof similar to those used on SP boxcars
Yeah, it does, but I don't think the Viking name was in use in 1916, being a trade name Chicago-Cleveland transitioned to some time around WWII.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Soo Line boxcar

Richard Remiarz
 

Elliot,

I used Campbell Scale Models chain, which is 42 links per inch.  I used 1x6 styrene for the brake levers, and 0.012 wire with clevises made from Grandt Line turnbuckles for the brake rods.

Rich Remiarz
Vadnais Heights, MN


On Mar 13, 2020, at 11:40 AM, Elliot Courtney via Groups.Io <ecourtne@...> wrote:



Great model! What size chain and brass strip do you need for the brake cylinder pulley assembly? My sunshine kit of the soo sawtooth did not include either. 

Thanks,
Elliot 


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SPECIAL NOTICE – Toronto Railway Prototype Modellers Meet postponement

 

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Re: Hutchins Dry Lading Roof?

Gene Deimling
 

It appears to be a Viking roof similar to those used on SP boxcars

Gene Deimling 


Re: RPM updates

John Sykes III
 

The Valley Forge RPM has been cancelled due to Corona virus.

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