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Re: C&O 40' 1930 Automobile Boxcar
william darnaby
There is an article on these cars in the 6/84 Mainline Modeler on page 55 with drawings and photos.
Bill Darnaby
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Remiarz
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 6:53 PM To: RealSTMFC@groups.io; ResinFreightCarBuilders@groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] C&O 40' 1930 Automobile Boxcar
I just started building a Funaro & Camerlengo C&O 1930 automobile boxcar kit. In looking through my reference materials, I have found almost no information on these cars. I thought I remembered an article in a publication sometime in the last few years (which means it was probably 5-10 years ago) about these cars and building this kit, but haven't been able to find anything. Any help getting more information on these cars and this kit would be appreciated.
Thanks, Rich Remiarz Vadnais Heights, MN
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C&O 40' 1930 Automobile Boxcar
Richard Remiarz
I just started building a Funaro & Camerlengo C&O 1930 automobile boxcar kit. In looking through my reference materials, I have found almost no information on these cars. I thought I remembered an article in a publication sometime in the last few years
(which means it was probably 5-10 years ago) about these cars and building this kit, but haven't been able to find anything. Any help getting more information on these cars and this kit would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Rich Remiarz
Vadnais Heights, MN
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Re: RPM updates
That’s right. Toss a Molotov cocktail and then feign offense.
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Thanks! Brian Ehni (Sent from my iPhone)
On Mar 16, 2020, at 6:48 PM, mel perry <clipper841@...> wrote:
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Re: RPM updates
mel perry
gary: this is a free country, snd i suggest this conversation be tsken offline, we each have each others address, end of thread :-) mel perry
On Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 4:45 PM Gary Roe <wabashrr@...> wrote:
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Re: RPM updates
Gary Roe
Keep your political comments to yourself Mel. gary roe quincy, illinois
On Monday, March 16, 2020, 6:33:02 PM CDT, mel perry <clipper841@...> wrote:
walter: you are obviously missing part of this thread, don't know what to tell you, and as far as that tree dweller in washington in concerned, once he starts "acting" like such, than he will be given the respect :-) mel perry On Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 4:10 PM Walter Cox via Groups.Io <WaltGCox=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: RPM updates
mel perry
walter: you are obviously missing part of this thread, don't know what to tell you, and as far as that tree dweller in washington in concerned, once he starts "acting" like such, than he will be given the respect :-) mel perry
On Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 4:10 PM Walter Cox via Groups.Io <WaltGCox=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: RPM updates
Walter Cox
Sorry Mel,
I didn't see any reference in that post to any upcoming show. Shouldn't present circumstances and a backhanded slap at the President be off limits?
Walter
In a message dated 3/16/2020 6:18:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, clipper841@... writes:
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Re: Soo Line boxcar
Dennis Storzek
On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 01:19 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
That strikes me as some kind of slack adjuster. Is that what it is?Do you mean this? Brake Booster Near as can tell its main function is to double the power available from a vertical staff hand brake by making the hand brake chain into a two part line; note that after the chain winds through the mechanism it attaches to a bracket on the centersill. How it's any better than the simple pulley often used for this is anyone's guess, although I've always thought the slope of the bar it rides on would ensure that it rattled itself into release position after the brake pawl was released, not that I think that was ever a problem with the pulley system. Actually, I've always felt it was a solution in search of a problem, and I think the railroad industry quickly came to the same conclusion, because they were not common. Maybe someday I'll get someone out at IRM to wind down the handbrake on that car and watch what it actually does. Dennis Storzek
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Priming w/Yellow
Bill Welch
Just primed my M-K-T company built War Emergency boxcar w/Badger's Neutral Yellow primer.
Bill Welch
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Re: Drawings for Mather Patent boxcars
Bud Rindfleisch
Mel Perry, thanks for your response, Claus Schlund already sent me some scans. Bud Rindfleisch
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Re: RPM updates
mel perry
walter: the discussion was about upcoming shows, and the present circumstances mel perry
On Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 3:11 PM Walter Cox via Groups.Io <WaltGCox=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: RPM updates
Walter Cox
What does this last post have to do with Steam Era Freight Cars prior to 1960?
In a message dated 3/15/2020 8:24:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, clipper841@... writes:
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Re: Model: CB&Q "Bomber Boxcar"
The 1950 and 1955 ORER's show a number of 50 foot cars with 11-2 or 11-3 interior heights. That's clearly extra tall for 1950's box cars! Tim O'Connor
On 3/15/2020 9:02 PM, Nelson Moyer wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Soo Line boxcar
Cool pix. That strikes me as some kind of slack adjuster. Is that what it is? Tim O'Connor
On 3/14/2020 2:16 AM, Dennis Storzek wrote:
On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 08:47 PM, Richard Remiarz wrote: --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Illinois Central #11346 w/extras
Bill Welch
I started building this Funaro & Camerlengo kit over ten years ago and while it was not my intent to take so long, sometimes it can be advantageous. With this prototype I kept finding new photos to purchase and in this process I kept noticing details and this model features many improved details, now hidden under the paint. Among the photos I bought was a Jack Parker photo of #11346 from "Bob's Photos" that showed an interesting wood plank door repair and decided to add this that can now be seen in the photos. I made one for each side attached with brass pins made from .012 wire. They are detachable to allow for painting and eventual weathering. Then I decided to attempt making the remnants of the door papering visible in the prototype photo. inspired by a past article by Don Valentine I purchased some light brown cigarette papers. These proved to not be opaque, even when layered, so I brush painted the back sides with Badger"s Modelflex "Sand." I then cut up some scale 1 x 6 lumber into narrow furring strips. These might be a little oversize but I needed something I wide enough to drill a #80 hole successfully. Note there a no remnants to the right of the door: This is because they would have to removed so the door could be opened. These remnant parts are also pinned in place using .012 brass wire and will be removed while the car is weathered. Then they will be weathered. I used a urethane glue made by Ambroid that is no longer available to glue the wood and paper together. I wanted the remnants to look plausible so I shared photos with some modeling friends that I knew were familiar with grain shipping and sealing doors. I am pretty happy with the way the model remnants look. Jerry Glow made the decals for me about ten years ago too.
Bill Welch
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Re: Photo: Barrels in A Boxcar
Riverboy
I love these photos, but I kind of chuckled when I saw that beer barrels are being loaded onto a box car marked "Automobile". Is that encouraging drinking and driving?    Ok, maybe sort of lame, but I couldn't resist. But for real, the photos are very interesting. Especially the interior photo of how they are stacked and braced. Tod C Dwyer
On Monday, March 16, 2020, 12:43:45 PM EDT, Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:
Photo: Barrels in A Boxcar An undated photo from the Los Angeles City Public Library: https://tessa.lapl.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/photos/id/100971/rec/1247 Caption: "Barrels of liquor are stacked in a railroad car, ready to be transported. The number 1 is written on the top of each barrel." A good view of how these barrels were secured in a boxcar. It's possible these are beer barrels as they appear to be the same kind of barrels as shown in this photo, although the boxcar is not the same one: https://tessa.lapl.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/photos/id/103564/rec/16 Caption: "One man brings a barrel of Los Angeles Brewing Co. beer as two men roll the barrel on a railroad car. The barrels are stacked into the railroad car and later transported." Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photo: Barrels in A Boxcar
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Bob;
They all look like beer barrels. I cannot imagine shipping whiskey that way, but beer was often stacked and blocked like that. They did not ship beer long distances back then, but there were plenty of locations out in the high desert that took shipments of beer. Even Hemet!
I am familiar with Los Angeles Brewing from my early days living in LA. I even remember the abandoned siding running alongside the shipping building downtown. Not a real clean operation!
Great shots! Keep them coming!
Elden Gatwood
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 12:44 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photo: Barrels in A Boxcar
Photo: Barrels in A Boxcar An undated photo from the Los Angeles City Public Library: Blockedhttps://tessa.lapl.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/photos/id/100971/rec/1247 Caption: "Barrels of liquor are stacked in a railroad car, ready to be transported. The number 1 is written on the top of each barrel." A good view of how these barrels were secured in a boxcar. It's possible these are beer barrels as they appear to be the same kind of barrels as shown in this photo, although the boxcar is not the same one: Blockedhttps://tessa.lapl.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/photos/id/103564/rec/16 Caption: "One man brings a barrel of Los Angeles Brewing Co. beer as two men roll the barrel on a railroad car. The barrels are stacked into the railroad car and later transported." Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Model: CB&Q "Bomber Boxcar"
james murrie
The B-26 and later B-29 assembly plant was the Martin factory on what is now Offutt AFB(previously Fort Crook) south of Bellevue NE. The building was later made part of the base and called "Building C" when I was stationed there in the 1970s. You could still see the floors made out of wooden blocks. We used to go jogging on the lower floor (below ground level) in the winter. They had also put in a bowling alley and a lot of other things including a "Sattelite Control Squadron" that officially controlled weather satellites for AF Global Weather Central. On the other hand, we also had a strategic reconnaissance wing.
The big end doors at the end of what had been the assembly line rolled out into the end of the runway. One of the B-29s that dropped the atomic bomb was built there. It was very close to the tracks that ran south out of Omaha. I believe the official station name was Fort Crook even in the 1970s. Even though I was stationed at SAC HQ, I spent several nights in the building when I was tagged for Officer of the Day duty. Jim Murrie
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Photo: Barrels in A Boxcar
Photo: Barrels in A Boxcar An undated photo from the Los Angeles City Public Library: https://tessa.lapl.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/photos/id/100971/rec/1247 Caption: "Barrels of liquor are stacked in a railroad car, ready to be transported. The number 1 is written on the top of each barrel." A good view of how these barrels were secured in a boxcar. It's possible these are beer barrels as they appear to be the same kind of barrels as shown in this photo, although the boxcar is not the same one: https://tessa.lapl.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/photos/id/103564/rec/16 Caption: "One man brings a barrel of Los Angeles Brewing Co. beer as two men roll the barrel on a railroad car. The barrels are stacked into the railroad car and later transported." Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Photos of B&O M-8 box cars
Good Morning Fellow Shut-ins...
I am working on an overall history of the 21,000 class M-8 box cars built for the B&O, B&OSW, and P&W. The majority were built by Pullman as documented by Eric Neubauer. They were in service from 7-1896 to 1929 with original wood underframe. About 12,400 were rebuilt to steel center sills, M-8B, -8C, or underframe, M-8A, as well as US Safety Appliance Standards over 1912-1921. The last of these, #185901, M-8C, is listed in the 1-1940 B&O Summary of Equipment. These rebuilds were accomplished by the B&O and several commercial builders. It would be very helpful to me if some of you might share some photo scans and or point me to sources for same. Equipment diagrams indicate "iron roof". What did that look like? An additional 60 of M-8 dimensions were built as B&OSW 17700-17759 with double side doors over door openings of 10-0 and 10-8. What did these look like? They were renumbered to B&O 93000-93059 and rebuilt to steel center sills etc. as B&O 190600-190651. Some were also rebuilt to M-8B. Advance thanks for any help you can share with me, Eric Lombard At home in Homewood, IL
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