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Re: Alcohol

Geodyssey
 

Best substitute for 90% isopropyl is 99% isopropyl alcohol. Why pay for water dilution if you don't need it?

Ask a pharmacist to order, or from Amazon. Etc..

Robert Simpson
ADMIN: RPM updates

Aley, Jeff A
 

Folks,

 

               This list is not a COVID-19 list.  It is not a politics list.  It is a place where we can have a respite from the “real world” around us and focus on our hobby: Steam-Era Freight Cars.

 

               Those who persist in posting off-topic comments do so at their peril.  Note that I am not in the mood to post cute comments about the food in the STMFC jail.

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff Aley,

Deputy Moderator, RealSTMFC

 
Re: Priming w/Yellow

Jack Mullen
 

That covered well and looks really nice, Bill.  Sometimes it's difficult to get a sufficiently opaque finish with yellow paints. The yellow primer should really help with that problem. Looking forward to seeing the completed work.

Jack Mullen
Re: Model: CB&Q "Bomber Boxcar"

Scott Seders
 

Did these boxcars haul wing assemblies from Martin’s Baltimore plant to Omaha or did they originate somewhere else?

Scott Seders
Salisbury, MD 

On Mar 16, 2020, at 4:57 PM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:



The 1950 and 1955 ORER's show a number of 50 foot cars with 11-2 or 11-3 interior heights.
That's clearly extra tall for 1950's box cars!

Tim O'Connor


On 3/15/2020 9:02 PM, Nelson Moyer wrote:
The Burlington Bulletin on the extended roof XA-14D cars states that some served out they’re life without conversion to original height. I’m traveling, so I can’t access my source until next week.
Nelson Moyer

 On Mar 15, 2020, at 4:31 PM, al_brown03 <abrown@...> wrote:
I know of two sources on these:
 Culotta, "Freight Cars Reference Manual", v 1, p 192
 Masterson, Wagner, and Hoffman, RP CYC 12, pp 46-87 (see especially pp 78-83)
CB&Q class XA-14D (100 cars, 46650-46749) were built in the company shops in 1937-38. After Pearl Harbor, 60 of this class were rebuilt with 26" roof extensions, to carry wings and other parts for B-26 and B-29 bombers. The modified XA-14Ds were converted back to their original height during 1946. The Masterson article has two photos of CB&Q 46741 with its extended roof, and Culotta has a 1963 photo of the same car at its original height.
Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

Re: Priming w/Yellow

Allen Cain
 

Do not know where Bill got his but here is a search link for Amazon. Lots of colors to chose from:


Allen Cain 
Re: Priming w/Yellow

Bill Welch
 

Amazon is one source. . .

Bill Welch
Re: [ResinFreightCarBuilders] C&O 40' 1930 Automobile Boxcar

Richard Remiarz
 

Thanks Andy, Bill and Ted for the information. Fortunately I kept all of my old Mainline Modeler issues.  Looks like I need to send an order to Ted.  The decals in the kit didn’t look very sharp.

Sincerely,
Rich Remiarz


On Mar 16, 2020, at 7:48 PM, Andy Cich <ajc5150@...> wrote:

The C&O Historical Society Published a freight car book. Three pages are devoted to the 9500-9999 series cars. There are 5 photos and an equipment diagram. The five photos are a straight on side shot, a straight on A end shot, a straight on B end shot, a 3/4 A end shot, and a 3/4 B end shot.

Andy Cich 

Re: Priming w/Yellow

Todd Sullivan
 

Wow, Bill, that's a pretty smooth looking finish.  Nice model, too!  Where did you get the Badger primer?

Todd Sullivan
Re: C&O 40' 1930 Automobile Boxcar

william darnaby
 

There is an article on these cars in the 6/84 Mainline Modeler on page 55 with drawings and photos.

 

Bill Darnaby

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Remiarz
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 6:53 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io; ResinFreightCarBuilders@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] C&O 40' 1930 Automobile Boxcar

 

I just started building a Funaro & Camerlengo C&O 1930 automobile boxcar kit.  In looking through my reference materials, I have found almost no information on these cars.  I thought I remembered an article in a publication sometime in the last few years (which means it was probably 5-10 years ago) about these cars and building this kit, but haven't been able to find anything.   Any help getting more information on these cars and this kit would be appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Rich Remiarz

Vadnais Heights, MN
C&O 40' 1930 Automobile Boxcar

Richard Remiarz
 

I just started building a Funaro & Camerlengo C&O 1930 automobile boxcar kit.  In looking through my reference materials, I have found almost no information on these cars.  I thought I remembered an article in a publication sometime in the last few years (which means it was probably 5-10 years ago) about these cars and building this kit, but haven't been able to find anything.   Any help getting more information on these cars and this kit would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Rich Remiarz
Vadnais Heights, MN
Re: RPM updates

BRIAN PAUL EHNI
 

That’s right. Toss a Molotov cocktail and then feign offense. 

Thanks!
Brian Ehni 
(Sent from my iPhone)

On Mar 16, 2020, at 6:48 PM, mel perry <clipper841@...> wrote:


gary:
this is a free country, snd i suggest this
conversation be tsken offline, we each
have each others address, end of thread
:-)
mel perry

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 4:45 PM Gary Roe <wabashrr@...> wrote:
Keep your political comments to yourself Mel.

gary roe
quincy, illinois




On Monday, March 16, 2020, 6:33:02 PM CDT, mel perry <clipper841@...> wrote:


walter:
you are obviously missing part of this
thread, don't know what to tell you, and
as far as that tree dweller in washington
in concerned, once he starts "acting" like
such, than he will be given the respect
:-)
mel perry

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 4:10 PM Walter Cox via Groups.Io <WaltGCox=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Sorry Mel,
I didn't see any reference in that post to any upcoming show. Shouldn't present circumstances  and a backhanded slap at the President be off limits? 
Walter
In a message dated 3/16/2020 6:18:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, clipper841@... writes:

walter:
the discussion was about upcoming
shows, and the present circumstances
mel perry

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 3:11 PM Walter Cox via Groups.Io <WaltGCox@...> wrote:
What does this last post have to do with Steam Era  Freight Cars prior to 1960?

In a message dated 3/15/2020 8:24:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, clipper841@... writes:

not to rain on anyoes parade, but consider what the chinese had to do,
one they figured out what they were
dealing with, quarentined a city.of
millions, quarentined half a province,
daily mandatory randon screening,
and  by some trump miracle, all if this
is not going to transpire, according to
the exalted one, this is going to get lot
worse, before long, we don't even have
enough test kits for the actual sick,
this is not going to disappear overnight
or in weeks, don't be surprised when
it does get worse, and definitely don't
make any plans for this year, mandatory
quatentine is just around the corner
mel perry

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020, 5:11 PM Dave Owens <daowens@...> wrote:
In response to Tim's question,
NERPM is still on for now.
We are carefully following developments and will of course follow the
advice of health and government officials.
Our meet is at the end of May and the situation may change.
You can get the latest updates on our facebook page and our website:
www.nerpm.org
www.facebook.com/NERPM

Dave Owens
NERPM organizer
West Hartford, Conn.

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 7:18 PM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
>
>
> What about nerpm?
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: eric@...
> To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
> Sent: 2020-03-15 7:15:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] RPM updates
>
> A saw a post on Facebook earlier that the Savannah RPM has cancelled.
>
> Eric Hansmann
> Murfreesboro, TN
>
> On Mar 15, 2020, at 5:49 PM, G.J. Irwin <groups@...> wrote:
>
> In case anyone missed the Special Notice posted here, the Toronto RPM has in fact been postponed.
>
> George Irwin
>
>
>
>
> --
> Tim O'Connor
> Sterling, Massachusetts
>



 
Re: RPM updates

mel perry
 

gary:
this is a free country, snd i suggest this
conversation be tsken offline, we each
have each others address, end of thread
:-)
mel perry

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 4:45 PM Gary Roe <wabashrr@...> wrote:
Keep your political comments to yourself Mel.

gary roe
quincy, illinois




On Monday, March 16, 2020, 6:33:02 PM CDT, mel perry <clipper841@...> wrote:


walter:
you are obviously missing part of this
thread, don't know what to tell you, and
as far as that tree dweller in washington
in concerned, once he starts "acting" like
such, than he will be given the respect
:-)
mel perry

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 4:10 PM Walter Cox via Groups.Io <WaltGCox=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Sorry Mel,
I didn't see any reference in that post to any upcoming show. Shouldn't present circumstances  and a backhanded slap at the President be off limits? 
Walter
In a message dated 3/16/2020 6:18:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, clipper841@... writes:

walter:
the discussion was about upcoming
shows, and the present circumstances
mel perry

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 3:11 PM Walter Cox via Groups.Io <WaltGCox@...> wrote:
What does this last post have to do with Steam Era  Freight Cars prior to 1960?

In a message dated 3/15/2020 8:24:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, clipper841@... writes:

not to rain on anyoes parade, but consider what the chinese had to do,
one they figured out what they were
dealing with, quarentined a city.of
millions, quarentined half a province,
daily mandatory randon screening,
and  by some trump miracle, all if this
is not going to transpire, according to
the exalted one, this is going to get lot
worse, before long, we don't even have
enough test kits for the actual sick,
this is not going to disappear overnight
or in weeks, don't be surprised when
it does get worse, and definitely don't
make any plans for this year, mandatory
quatentine is just around the corner
mel perry

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020, 5:11 PM Dave Owens <daowens@...> wrote:
In response to Tim's question,
NERPM is still on for now.
We are carefully following developments and will of course follow the
advice of health and government officials.
Our meet is at the end of May and the situation may change.
You can get the latest updates on our facebook page and our website:
www.nerpm.org
www.facebook.com/NERPM

Dave Owens
NERPM organizer
West Hartford, Conn.

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 7:18 PM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
>
>
> What about nerpm?
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: eric@...
> To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
> Sent: 2020-03-15 7:15:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] RPM updates
>
> A saw a post on Facebook earlier that the Savannah RPM has cancelled.
>
> Eric Hansmann
> Murfreesboro, TN
>
> On Mar 15, 2020, at 5:49 PM, G.J. Irwin <groups@...> wrote:
>
> In case anyone missed the Special Notice posted here, the Toronto RPM has in fact been postponed.
>
> George Irwin
>
>
>
>
> --
> Tim O'Connor
> Sterling, Massachusetts
>



 
Re: RPM updates

Gary Roe
 

Keep your political comments to yourself Mel.

gary roe
quincy, illinois




On Monday, March 16, 2020, 6:33:02 PM CDT, mel perry <clipper841@...> wrote:


walter:
you are obviously missing part of this
thread, don't know what to tell you, and
as far as that tree dweller in washington
in concerned, once he starts "acting" like
such, than he will be given the respect
:-)
mel perry

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 4:10 PM Walter Cox via Groups.Io <WaltGCox=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Sorry Mel,
I didn't see any reference in that post to any upcoming show. Shouldn't present circumstances  and a backhanded slap at the President be off limits? 
Walter
In a message dated 3/16/2020 6:18:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, clipper841@... writes:

walter:
the discussion was about upcoming
shows, and the present circumstances
mel perry

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 3:11 PM Walter Cox via Groups.Io <WaltGCox@...> wrote:
What does this last post have to do with Steam Era  Freight Cars prior to 1960?

In a message dated 3/15/2020 8:24:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, clipper841@... writes:

not to rain on anyoes parade, but consider what the chinese had to do,
one they figured out what they were
dealing with, quarentined a city.of
millions, quarentined half a province,
daily mandatory randon screening,
and  by some trump miracle, all if this
is not going to transpire, according to
the exalted one, this is going to get lot
worse, before long, we don't even have
enough test kits for the actual sick,
this is not going to disappear overnight
or in weeks, don't be surprised when
it does get worse, and definitely don't
make any plans for this year, mandatory
quatentine is just around the corner
mel perry

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020, 5:11 PM Dave Owens <daowens@...> wrote:
In response to Tim's question,
NERPM is still on for now.
We are carefully following developments and will of course follow the
advice of health and government officials.
Our meet is at the end of May and the situation may change.
You can get the latest updates on our facebook page and our website:
www.nerpm.org
www.facebook.com/NERPM

Dave Owens
NERPM organizer
West Hartford, Conn.

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 7:18 PM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
>
>
> What about nerpm?
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: eric@...
> To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
> Sent: 2020-03-15 7:15:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] RPM updates
>
> A saw a post on Facebook earlier that the Savannah RPM has cancelled.
>
> Eric Hansmann
> Murfreesboro, TN
>
> On Mar 15, 2020, at 5:49 PM, G.J. Irwin <groups@...> wrote:
>
> In case anyone missed the Special Notice posted here, the Toronto RPM has in fact been postponed.
>
> George Irwin
>
>
>
>
> --
> Tim O'Connor
> Sterling, Massachusetts
>



 
Re: RPM updates

mel perry
 

walter:
you are obviously missing part of this
thread, don't know what to tell you, and
as far as that tree dweller in washington
in concerned, once he starts "acting" like
such, than he will be given the respect
:-)
mel perry

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 4:10 PM Walter Cox via Groups.Io <WaltGCox=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Sorry Mel,
I didn't see any reference in that post to any upcoming show. Shouldn't present circumstances  and a backhanded slap at the President be off limits? 
Walter
In a message dated 3/16/2020 6:18:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, clipper841@... writes:

walter:
the discussion was about upcoming
shows, and the present circumstances
mel perry

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 3:11 PM Walter Cox via Groups.Io <WaltGCox@...> wrote:
What does this last post have to do with Steam Era  Freight Cars prior to 1960?

In a message dated 3/15/2020 8:24:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, clipper841@... writes:

not to rain on anyoes parade, but consider what the chinese had to do,
one they figured out what they were
dealing with, quarentined a city.of
millions, quarentined half a province,
daily mandatory randon screening,
and  by some trump miracle, all if this
is not going to transpire, according to
the exalted one, this is going to get lot
worse, before long, we don't even have
enough test kits for the actual sick,
this is not going to disappear overnight
or in weeks, don't be surprised when
it does get worse, and definitely don't
make any plans for this year, mandatory
quatentine is just around the corner
mel perry

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020, 5:11 PM Dave Owens <daowens@...> wrote:
In response to Tim's question,
NERPM is still on for now.
We are carefully following developments and will of course follow the
advice of health and government officials.
Our meet is at the end of May and the situation may change.
You can get the latest updates on our facebook page and our website:
www.nerpm.org
www.facebook.com/NERPM

Dave Owens
NERPM organizer
West Hartford, Conn.

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 7:18 PM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
>
>
> What about nerpm?
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: eric@...
> To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
> Sent: 2020-03-15 7:15:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] RPM updates
>
> A saw a post on Facebook earlier that the Savannah RPM has cancelled.
>
> Eric Hansmann
> Murfreesboro, TN
>
> On Mar 15, 2020, at 5:49 PM, G.J. Irwin <groups@...> wrote:
>
> In case anyone missed the Special Notice posted here, the Toronto RPM has in fact been postponed.
>
> George Irwin
>
>
>
>
> --
> Tim O'Connor
> Sterling, Massachusetts
>



 
Re: RPM updates

Walter Cox
 


Sorry Mel,
I didn't see any reference in that post to any upcoming show. Shouldn't present circumstances  and a backhanded slap at the President be off limits? 
Walter

In a message dated 3/16/2020 6:18:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, clipper841@... writes:

walter:
the discussion was about upcoming
shows, and the present circumstances
mel perry

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 3:11 PM Walter Cox via Groups.Io <WaltGCox=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
What does this last post have to do with Steam Era  Freight Cars prior to 1960?

In a message dated 3/15/2020 8:24:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, clipper841@... writes:

not to rain on anyoes parade, but consider what the chinese had to do,
one they figured out what they were
dealing with, quarentined a city.of
millions, quarentined half a province,
daily mandatory randon screening,
and  by some trump miracle, all if this
is not going to transpire, according to
the exalted one, this is going to get lot
worse, before long, we don't even have
enough test kits for the actual sick,
this is not going to disappear overnight
or in weeks, don't be surprised when
it does get worse, and definitely don't
make any plans for this year, mandatory
quatentine is just around the corner
mel perry

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020, 5:11 PM Dave Owens <daowens@...> wrote:
In response to Tim's question,
NERPM is still on for now.
We are carefully following developments and will of course follow the
advice of health and government officials.
Our meet is at the end of May and the situation may change.
You can get the latest updates on our facebook page and our website:
www.nerpm.org
www.facebook.com/NERPM

Dave Owens
NERPM organizer
West Hartford, Conn.

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 7:18 PM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
>
>
> What about nerpm?
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: eric@...
> To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
> Sent: 2020-03-15 7:15:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] RPM updates
>
> A saw a post on Facebook earlier that the Savannah RPM has cancelled.
>
> Eric Hansmann
> Murfreesboro, TN
>
> On Mar 15, 2020, at 5:49 PM, G.J. Irwin <groups@...> wrote:
>
> In case anyone missed the Special Notice posted here, the Toronto RPM has in fact been postponed.
>
> George Irwin
>
>
>
>
> --
> Tim O'Connor
> Sterling, Massachusetts
>



 
Re: Soo Line boxcar

Dennis Storzek
 

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 01:19 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
That strikes me as some kind of slack adjuster. Is that what it is?
Do you mean this? Brake Booster

Near as can tell its main function is to double the power available from a vertical staff hand brake by making the hand brake chain into a two part line; note that after the chain winds through the mechanism it attaches to a bracket on the centersill. How it's any better than the simple pulley often used for this is anyone's guess, although I've always thought the slope of the bar it rides on would ensure that it rattled itself into release position after the brake pawl was released, not that I think that was ever a problem with the pulley system. Actually, I've always felt it was a solution in search of a problem, and I think the railroad industry quickly came to the same conclusion, because they were not common. Maybe someday I'll get someone out at IRM to wind down the handbrake on that car and watch what it actually does.

Dennis Storzek
Priming w/Yellow

Bill Welch
 

Just primed my M-K-T company built War Emergency boxcar w/Badger's Neutral Yellow primer.

Bill Welch
Re: Drawings for Mather Patent boxcars

Bud Rindfleisch
 

Mel Perry, thanks for your response, Claus Schlund already sent me some scans.
    Bud Rindfleisch
Re: RPM updates

mel perry
 

walter:
the discussion was about upcoming
shows, and the present circumstances
mel perry


On Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 3:11 PM Walter Cox via Groups.Io <WaltGCox=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
What does this last post have to do with Steam Era  Freight Cars prior to 1960?

In a message dated 3/15/2020 8:24:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, clipper841@... writes:

not to rain on anyoes parade, but consider what the chinese had to do,
one they figured out what they were
dealing with, quarentined a city.of
millions, quarentined half a province,
daily mandatory randon screening,
and  by some trump miracle, all if this
is not going to transpire, according to
the exalted one, this is going to get lot
worse, before long, we don't even have
enough test kits for the actual sick,
this is not going to disappear overnight
or in weeks, don't be surprised when
it does get worse, and definitely don't
make any plans for this year, mandatory
quatentine is just around the corner
mel perry

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020, 5:11 PM Dave Owens <daowens@...> wrote:
In response to Tim's question,
NERPM is still on for now.
We are carefully following developments and will of course follow the
advice of health and government officials.
Our meet is at the end of May and the situation may change.
You can get the latest updates on our facebook page and our website:
www.nerpm.org
www.facebook.com/NERPM

Dave Owens
NERPM organizer
West Hartford, Conn.

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 7:18 PM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
>
>
> What about nerpm?
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: eric@...
> To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
> Sent: 2020-03-15 7:15:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] RPM updates
>
> A saw a post on Facebook earlier that the Savannah RPM has cancelled.
>
> Eric Hansmann
> Murfreesboro, TN
>
> On Mar 15, 2020, at 5:49 PM, G.J. Irwin <groups@...> wrote:
>
> In case anyone missed the Special Notice posted here, the Toronto RPM has in fact been postponed.
>
> George Irwin
>
>
>
>
> --
> Tim O'Connor
> Sterling, Massachusetts
>



Re: RPM updates

Walter Cox
 

What does this last post have to do with Steam Era  Freight Cars prior to 1960?

In a message dated 3/15/2020 8:24:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, clipper841@... writes:

not to rain on anyoes parade, but consider what the chinese had to do,
one they figured out what they were
dealing with, quarentined a city.of
millions, quarentined half a province,
daily mandatory randon screening,
and  by some trump miracle, all if this
is not going to transpire, according to
the exalted one, this is going to get lot
worse, before long, we don't even have
enough test kits for the actual sick,
this is not going to disappear overnight
or in weeks, don't be surprised when
it does get worse, and definitely don't
make any plans for this year, mandatory
quatentine is just around the corner
mel perry

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020, 5:11 PM Dave Owens <daowens@...> wrote:
In response to Tim's question,
NERPM is still on for now.
We are carefully following developments and will of course follow the
advice of health and government officials.
Our meet is at the end of May and the situation may change.
You can get the latest updates on our facebook page and our website:
www.nerpm.org
www.facebook.com/NERPM

Dave Owens
NERPM organizer
West Hartford, Conn.

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 7:18 PM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
>
>
> What about nerpm?
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: eric@...
> To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
> Sent: 2020-03-15 7:15:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] RPM updates
>
> A saw a post on Facebook earlier that the Savannah RPM has cancelled.
>
> Eric Hansmann
> Murfreesboro, TN
>
> On Mar 15, 2020, at 5:49 PM, G.J. Irwin <groups@...> wrote:
>
> In case anyone missed the Special Notice posted here, the Toronto RPM has in fact been postponed.
>
> George Irwin
>
>
>
>
> --
> Tim O'Connor
> Sterling, Massachusetts
>



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