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Re: Priming w/Yellow
gtws00
I was looking to paint a Harvester/Combine model a bright shade of red that I custom mixed and a Cat D7 yellow as well. I could not get the red to look the way I wanted and tried an experiment using yellow, white and gray Badger Primer that I sprayed on a small styrene sheet. Attached are two photos showing the difference of covering the sheet with my red. I picked the neutral yellow for my base and have been now using it under my Boxcar Reds as well. I have been very pleased with the results so far. I have attached a photo of a brown I mixed and applied over the neutral yellow for my IC Mini-Kit as well.
Badger usually sells this primer at the Collinsville RPM a discounted price and comes in 12 colors. George Toman Willow Springs, IL
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Re: Photo: Barrels in A Boxcar
Mont Switzer
Clark,
I had never heard of shipping cement in barrels.
I know early cement loads shipped by truck consisted of bags stacked on flat bed trailers. I just figured rail shipments were bags stacked in boxcars.
What were the barrels made of?
Mont
Montford L. Switzer President Switzer Tank Lines, Inc. Fall Creek Leasing, LLC. (765) 836-2914
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Clark Propst
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 10:22 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Barrels in A Boxcar
Cement was shipped in barrels for years. Many company's logos were round to fit the top of a barrel. Cement was still being sold by the barrel into the 60s. Maybe the 70s? Four sacks of regular Portland cement equal a barrel. Works out
to 94 lbs per sack nowadays.
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Re: Photo: Barrels in A Boxcar
Clark Propst
Cement was shipped in barrels for years. Many company's logos were round to fit the top of a barrel. Cement was still being sold by the barrel into the 60s. Maybe the 70s? Four sacks of regular Portland cement equal a barrel. Works out to 94 lbs per sack nowadays.
CW Propst
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Re: New '37 AAR box cars with Deco and NSC-2 ends
Clark Propst
I built a C&O model years ago using a Des Plaines Viking roof kit. I used Keith Reterrer (sp) ends and doors. Also used his 3 panel doors on M&StL auto cars. Talked to Kieth about his castings at CCB. Sounded like he can still produce them. I think his are better looking than the IM model myself.
CW Propst
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Re: Model: CB&Q "Bomber Boxcar"
William Hirt
The track is still inside the Martin Bomber Building. I used to go regularly to Global Weather Central (or Center depending on the commander at the time) to coordinate backup activities. One day we had a fire alarm while I was there and I went with our hosts out to north side of the building. I had some time to look around because of that. The inside tracks and loading dock was still there. My grandfather worked there building bombers in World War II. Bil Hirt
On 3/16/2020 7:47 PM, John Larkin via
Groups.Io wrote:
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Re: Drawings for Mather Patent boxcars
Benjamin Scanlon
-- Ben Scanlon Tottenham, England
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Re: C&O 40' 1930 Automobile Boxcar
Eric Hansmann
I also built one of these C&O cars several years ago. https://i0.wp.com/designbuildop.hansmanns.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/20150805_candoxm.jpg
I finished it up in 2015, snapped a few photos, then shipped it off to a friend’s layout.
Wasn’t there a height issue with these models?
Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chuck Cover
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 8:28 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] C&O 40' 1930 Automobile Boxcar
Rich and all,
Attached are a couple of photos of the F&C built car sitting in Northumberland yard.
Chuck Cover Santa Fe, NM
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Re: C&O 40' 1930 Automobile Boxcar
Chuck Cover
Rich and all,
Attached are a couple of photos of the F&C built car sitting in Northumberland yard.
Chuck Cover Santa Fe, NM
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Re: Photo: Barrels in A Boxcar
Dennis Storzek
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 02:33 AM, Paul Woods wrote:
And a general question to the group: Presumably these loads would have required a decent sort of lock on the doors to prevent loss en-route....were they just a run-of-the-mill padlock type of affair or was there some standardisation, and were they applied by the railroad Agent or by the shipper?Car seals. A padlock can be picked, then snapped shut again after the pilferage is done, leaving the RR liable for the shortage. A car seal needs to be cut, leaving evidence of the deed. Security of shipments relied more on vigilant policing (which is why railroads had police departments) than strong locks. Subterfuge helped also; once sealed that carload of beer didn't look any different than a carload of anvils. Which is one of the reasons that all the gaudy brewery paint schemes disappeared from brewery owned cars early. Any value of advertising was more than offset by the increased pilferage that came with making the cars marked targets. Dennis Storzek
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Re: Priming w/Yellow
Bill Welch
I have no idea Scott.
Bill Welch
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Re: Model: CB&Q "Bomber Boxcar"
Scott
Tim can you post a few car numbers from the ORER of the 11ft cars please. I have a Bomber Boxcar in my stash would like to run it 1950ish.
Thanks Scott McDonald
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Re: Priming w/Yellow
Scott
Bill can you sand this primer or is it Vallejo that forms a tough film?
Scott McDonald
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Re: Priming w/Yellow
Bill Welch
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 01:42 AM, Aley, Jeff A wrote:
Jeff: Several thin coats. I was also priming another roof and the Klasing Brake Wheel for the model during the same session. This is an Acrylic so it drys pretty quickly so with thin coats I could get coverage I wanted in one AB session. I forgot to say that I sprayed with my Badger 155 Anthem AB w/.75mm needle/nozzle combo at 20 PSI. My modeling friend and list member George Toman put me onto the Neutral Yellow primer. he used it before painting with a Box Car Red and said he like the look of the BCR over the yellow. I plan to do this too on my WABASH war emergency build. Bill Welch
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Re: C&O 40' 1930 Automobile Boxcar
Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Richard, Please allow me to add to the other suggestions that this car (series 9500-9999) is covered on Plate 37 of FREIGHT CAR EQUIPMENT OF THE CHESAPEAKE & OHIO RAILWAY, AUGUST 1, 1937. The reprint with additions to the original work was edited Carl W. Shaver, and I believe is still available from Chesapeake & Ohio Historical Society. Plate 37 includes builder's photos taken from the side, as well as both ends, plus the general arrangement drawing. The end photos are slightly larger than an O-scale model, and show some really useful details. Yours Aye, Garth Groff 🦆
On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 7:53 PM Richard Remiarz <rremiarz@...> wrote:
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Re: Photo: Barrels in A Boxcar
Paul Woods <paul@...>
Bob, fantastic photos - thanks for sharing.
And a general question to the group: Presumably these loads would have required a decent sort of lock on the doors to prevent loss en-route....were they just a run-of-the-mill padlock type of affair or was there some standardisation, and were they applied by the railroad Agent or by the shipper? Regards Paul Woods Whangarei, NZ
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Re: Priming w/Yellow
Aley, Jeff A
Hi Bill,
How many coats of primer is on the model?
Thanks,
-Jeff
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On Behalf Of Bill Welch
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 3:54 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] Priming w/Yellow
Just primed my M-K-T company built War Emergency boxcar w/Badger's Neutral Yellow primer.
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Re: Model: CB&Q "Bomber Boxcar"
John Larkin
Jim, Thanks for the info. I've been trying to figure out where the tracks ran in and it appears to be from the northwest side of the base, just looking at the connecting railroad configuration and how it could have run into or next to (looks like something was there) the buildings. There is also a very short section of track left in place off the CB&Q line on the southeast side of the base, and what may be (from Google) a connection at the other end to the former MP that also served the buildings on the north. Our building is the oldest on base, and it includes a 3' thick brick wall inside. Evidently it had been a stable, a blacksmith shop and, according to an unofficial source, a train depot though I'm not sure where or how the track connection could have been made. No B-29s there any more though there are a couple of B-52s at the main entrance and a B-17 inside the base on the south side. Lot of history on that base, I'm just trying to get a handle on the railroad side of it. I only got stuck with Officer of the Day duty a couple of times, but overseas not there. John Larkin
On Monday, March 16, 2020, 12:27:02 PM CDT, james murrie via Groups.Io <bi291@...> wrote:
The B-26 and later B-29 assembly plant was the Martin factory on what is now Offutt AFB(previously Fort Crook) south of Bellevue NE. The building was later made part of the base and called "Building C" when I was stationed there in the 1970s. You could still see the floors made out of wooden blocks. We used to go jogging on the lower floor (below ground level) in the winter. They had also put in a bowling alley and a lot of other things including a "Sattelite Control Squadron" that officially controlled weather satellites for AF Global Weather Central. On the other hand, we also had a strategic reconnaissance wing. The big end doors at the end of what had been the assembly line rolled out into the end of the runway. One of the B-29s that dropped the atomic bomb was built there. It was very close to the tracks that ran south out of Omaha. I believe the official station name was Fort Crook even in the 1970s. Even though I was stationed at SAC HQ, I spent several nights in the building when I was tagged for Officer of the Day duty. Jim Murrie
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Re: New '37 AAR box cars with Deco and NSC-2 ends
golden1014
I don't intend for this to be a criticism, just an observation. I ordered an Intermountain C&O box car with Deco ends about eight months before I moved to Germany. That was in early 2015. It's taken five years for those models to come to market!
John Golden Ramstein-Miesenbach, Germany
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Re: New '37 AAR box cars with Deco and NSC-2 ends
Larry Wolohon
I rather doubt that you would hear from the new Caboose as the ownership is all new & all the personal there are all new. Larry Wolohon
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------ Original Message ------ From: Richard Townsend via Groups.Io To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Sent: March 14, 2020 at 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] New '37 AAR box cars with Deco and NSC-2 ends I wonder if I will hear from Caboose Hobbies. I put an order in before they closed down on Broadway.
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Re: Alcohol
Best substitute for 90% isopropyl is 99% isopropyl alcohol. Why pay for water dilution if you don't need it?
Ask a pharmacist to order, or from Amazon. Etc.. Robert Simpson
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