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Re: Accurail kit 4498

Dave Parker
 

At the risk of piling on: Clark, I assume that you have a 4598 (there is no 4500 series).  I agree with everything that Ben and  Bill have said.  Plus, the Accurail cars have a fish-belly center sill, also wrong for the USRA SS cars.

The only one of these models that I know to be prototypical is the 4100 series which, with a little work, makes a decent model of some CN cars built ca. 1918-27 (see attached).  The Hendrickson article in the Feb 1993 RMJ provides the details, along with some alternate roads for which the model can work, perhaps as a "close enough " stand-in.

If I had a 4500-series kit, I'd shed it at the next swap meet.  The Tichy USRA kit is about the same $$, and vastly superior.

--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


dimensional standard?

Schuyler Larrabee
 

I’ve always eyeballed the offset from the car centerline for the air hose brackets.  It’s usually been known to not be accurate anyway, since the coupler pocket’s too wide to allow it to be properly located.

 

But now that Kadee 262 Narrow Whisker pockets allow us to get a lot closer to reality, I’m moved to ask if there was (is?) an AAR standard dimension.  What can the members of this list tell me?

Schuyler


Re: Accurail kit 4498

Bill Welch
 

I may be wrong but I do not think there was an exact prototype with the combination of details this molding has: Hutchins roof; Z-braces; steel ends; steel doors; and eight evenly spaced panels.

Bill Welch


Re: Accurail kit 4498

Benjamin Hom
 

Clark Propst wrote:
"I have an Accurail kit #4498. It a single sheathed car and has 7/8 ends and a steel corrugated door. I've asked before what I can model with it and only was given a vague possibility for CN. I found a set of Tichy USRA style ends. I believe the ends would be easier to replace than the door? Did another one besides the Pennsy put steel corrugated doors on their USRA box cars? Would like to do something with this kit!"

If you take this course of action, you'll be doing a bunch of work to create a foobie.  The 5/5/5 Murphy corrugated ends plus the z-section truss members of the Accurail model will NOT accurately model anything, much less any USRA SS boxcar, which had pressed steel truss members.

A quick look at RMJ and MRG articles turned up a photo of DMIR 3328 (pg 11) at this link: 


Ben Hom





Re: Westerfield NB box car

Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 


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Re: Westerfield NB box car
From: Brian Carlson
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 09:53:25 PDT

I have the same photo but it’s labeled Gardenville (Buffalo) yard 1953. 

Brian J. Carlson
That sounds a lot more like it Brian. The B&A's Beacon Park Yard never looked like the photo
in my lifetime and I'm a war baby.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Accurail kit 4498

Clark Propst
 

I have an Accurail kit #4498. It a single sheathed car and has 7/8 ends and a steel corrugated door. I've asked before what I can model with it and only was given a vague possibility for CN. I found a set of Tichy USRA style ends. I believe the ends would be easier to replace than the door? Did another one besides the Pennsy put steel corrugated doors on their USRA box cars? Would like to do something with this kit!
Thanks!!
CW Propst 


Re: SP 26571 with 5/4/5/3 end

Tony Thompson
 

Richard Townsend wrote:

Thanks, Bill. But I'm going to have to sell some toilet paper to pay for it.

   Nice one!

Tony Thompson




Re: SP 26571 with 5/4/5/3 end

Richard Townsend
 

Thanks, Bill. But I'm going to have to sell some toilet paper to pay for it.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


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Re: SP 26571 with 5/4/5/3 end

Tony Thompson
 

Schuyler Larrabee wrote:

Time to reissue, Tony!

    I understand that it looks that way. But as few as a dozen eager buyers, who suffice to drive up the price of used books, will not be very helpful in a print run which has to exceed 750 units to be financially practical. Signature Press has been through this before, and knows well that eBay or ABE Books prices are not good indicators of printing decisions.
    We primarily judge the decision on reprinting on the basis of the sales rate at the time the book went OOP. If it was very low, as it was for this Volume 3, there will be only a tiny bulge of sales of a reprint. No need to ask me how I know.

Tony Thompson




Re: SP 26571 with 5/4/5/3 end

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Time to reissue, Tony!

 

Schuyler

(but not for me . . .)

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill J. via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 2:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] SP 26571 with 5/4/5/3 end

 

Found Volume 3 on bookfinder:

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Get a second mortgage and buy it!

Bill Jolitz


Re: SP 26571 with 5/4/5/3 end

Tony Thompson
 


Re: SP 26571 with 5/4/5/3 end

Bill J.
 


Re: Westerfield NB box car

Todd Sullivan
 

Thanks, Ben.  Duly noted!

Todd Sullivan


Re: Westerfield NB box car

Benjamin Hom
 

Todd Sullivan wrote:
"Thanks, I'm sure you are correct.  I'll change the note on my e-copy to reflect that.  I never thought it looked like Boston."

Captioned as Buffalo here:


Ben Hom


Re: Westerfield NB box car

Todd Sullivan
 

Brian,

Thanks, I'm sure you are correct.  I'll change the note on my e-copy to reflect that.  I never thought it looked like Boston.

Todd Sullivan


Re: Westerfield NB box car

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Todd and Clark,

In the distance is what appears to be an L&N PS-1 boxcar, probably 5141. These were delivered in March 1952. Hope this helps.

Yours Aye,

Garth Groff  🦆


On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 12:24 PM Todd Sullivan via Groups.Io <sullivant41=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Clark,

I think you are right about the roofs not all being replaced.  I've attached (I hope) a photo from somewhere online that is of the NYC / B&A yard in Boston with lots of NYC boxcars, including both kinds made by Westerfield.  There are a variety of roofs, including the original.  I believe the photo dates to the early or mid-1950s.

Todd Sullivan

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Re: Westerfield NB box car

Brian Carlson
 

I have the same photo but it’s labeled Gardenville (Buffalo) yard 1953. 

Brian J. Carlson 

On Mar 24, 2020, at 12:24 PM, Todd Sullivan via Groups.Io <sullivant41@...> wrote:

Hi Clark,

I think you are right about the roofs not all being replaced.  I've attached (I hope) a photo from somewhere online that is of the NYC / B&A yard in Boston with lots of NYC boxcars, including both kinds made by Westerfield.  There are a variety of roofs, including the original.  I believe the photo dates to the early or mid-1950s.

Todd Sullivan
<NYC Yard Boston lots of boxcars.jpg>


Re: Tools for photo etched ladder assembly

Lester Breuer
 

Malcolm I use Ca to attach the rungs.  I hold the jig downward when applied so the CA does not run back into the jig attaching stile to jig.  As they say, “ Ask me how I know?”  And, to date no problem with the CA failing on the rungs.   Soldering as you did can be used.
Lester Breuer


Re: Westerfield NB box car

Todd Sullivan
 

Hi Clark,

I think you are right about the roofs not all being replaced.  I've attached (I hope) a photo from somewhere online that is of the NYC / B&A yard in Boston with lots of NYC boxcars, including both kinds made by Westerfield.  There are a variety of roofs, including the original.  I believe the photo dates to the early or mid-1950s.

Todd Sullivan


Re: Tools for photo etched ladder assembly

william darnaby
 

Because of the number of Yarmouth kits I acquired I eventually broke down a got one the fret bending tools for the stiles so now I had to assemble ladders.  I went with soldering.  Years ago I bought one of the soldering pads offered by Micro-Mark designed to hold parts while soldering.  The pad becomes it’s own jig in a sense as the rungs poke through the holes in the stiles and into the pad.  The ladder can be completely assembled out of the loose rungs and stiles on he pad and then a quick touch of the soldering iron at each rung attaches the rungs into a rigid structure.

 

Bill Darnaby

 

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