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Re: The Great Yellow Fleet

Tony Thompson
 

Ryan Laroche wrote:

I was able to find some of your's and Richard's comments in the list archive. Its good to know which parts are more accurate then others. The book still has a place on my bookshelf next to later and dare I say better resources.

     John White's historical writing is simply excellent, and in TGYF the text, at least prior to 1930, is entirely reliable.(For later years, Duke even added text.)  But Duke added a lot of the photos throughout the book and wrote the captions, so unfortunately you cannot necessarily trust ANY figure caption in the book.
      It's too bad, as this book would be a great resource if done as John White intended. OTOH, as Duke perceived, it would have had lesser sales appeal if it tapered off in the 1920s, which is where White's personal interests tapered off.

Tony Thompson




Re: The Great Yellow Fleet

Ryan Laroche
 

Tony, 

Thank you, I will seek out both of those issues. 

I was able to find some of your's and Richard's comments in the list archive. Its good to know which parts are more accurate then others. The book still has a place on my bookshelf next to later and dare I say better resources.

Ryan


SOLD: Sunshine Resin NP 14000-14499 box car kit

Andy Carlson
 

A fast sell to one of our own! The car has been sold. Thanks,

-Andy Carlson    Ojai CA



Hello-

Offering for sale; I have a new, never removed from box HO Sunshine Models kit #52.6 Northern Pacific single sheathed 40' box car kit. This version has lettering for "1950s-1960s Main Street". This was purchased from Martin when he was shipping in the boxes with labels taped on. Martin's tape sealing of the box lid is intact, insuring that this kit has not been opened.


Offered for $55 and I pay shipping. It will be Kraft wrapped before mailing.
I accept checks and money orders. With a small fee PayPal is welcomed. Contact me off-list (Please) for details at <midcentury@...>
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson, Ojai, CA.


Re: The Great Yellow Fleet

Tony Thompson
 

Ryan Laroche wrote:

Tony Thompson wrote:
 I can supply citations of the some scathing reviews of the book at the time it came out, if you like.

I for one would be very interested.

       Richard Hendrickson reviewed White's book in the old _Santa Fe Modeler_ magazine of the Santa Fe Modelers Organization, in the spring 1987 issue, pp. 24-26; I reviewed it in _The Streamliner_ magazine, the UPHS publication, in the October 1986 issue, pp. 36, 37.
        I don't know whether either one is available on line.

Tony Thompson




Re: Intermountain Deco end XM'x and others For Sale

Tony Thompson
 

Ted Schnepf wrote:

Other cars include . . . Atlantic & East Carolina with an attractive herald. 

     It is indeed an attractive herald. However. Can't speak for other eras, but in my modeling year of 1953, the ORER entry for A&EC says that "freight cars owned are not employed in interstate commerce." 

Tony Thompson




Re: Walthers #932-5850 Single Sheathed Auto boxcar #932-5850

Steve and Barb Hile
 

A long, long time ago, I addressed this issue by shortening the Walthers car to 40 feet and using the auto door end from a Funaro & Carmelengo kit, since it came with a spare end, anyway.  The result was pretty reasonable.

Steve Hile

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Welch
Sent: Mar 27, 2020 11:40 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Walthers #932-5850 Single Sheathed Auto boxcar

Even rubbish can have utility. The fishbelly centersill was used for this model.

Bill Welch


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Two recent resin builds

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Nice cars, Jim!  I really like the differential board weathering.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Brewer
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:00 PM
To: ResinFreightCa. <resinfreightcarbuilders@groups.io>; main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Two recent resin builds

 

I took a break from working on the layout after the first of the year and decided to build some steam era freight cars. I completed two plastic kits and two resin kits.

BS 6528 is a 10' IH War Emergency Boxcar offered by Sunshine as Kit No. 29.2. I have others of this series from Sunshine in my stash and hope to get to them soon. This kit was a delight to build as everything just seemed to fit together well. I did substitute a Kadee running board for the kit supplied etched part.

CB&Q 46840 is Sunshine Kit No. 22.3 and represents a CB&Q XA-14C class boxcar. This car is the “plain Jane” of this group of cars, many of which were rebuilt to become the “Bomber Box Cars” that were recently discussed on the Steam Era Freight Car List. I did have to overcoat the kit supplied decals with several coats of Microscale Liquid Decal Film.

Weathering on both cars was done with Pan Pastels. 

Jim Brewer


Two recent resin builds

James Brewer
 

I took a break from working on the layout after the first of the year and decided to build some steam era freight cars. I completed two plastic kits and two resin kits.

BS 6528 is a 10' IH War Emergency Boxcar offered by Sunshine as Kit No. 29.2. I have others of this series from Sunshine in my stash and hope to get to them soon. This kit was a delight to build as everything just seemed to fit together well. I did substitute a Kadee running board for the kit supplied etched part.

CB&Q 46840 is Sunshine Kit No. 22.3 and represents a CB&Q XA-14C class boxcar. This car is the “plain Jane” of this group of cars, many of which were rebuilt to become the “Bomber Box Cars” that were recently discussed on the Steam Era Freight Car List. I did have to overcoat the kit supplied decals with several coats of Microscale Liquid Decal Film.

Weathering on both cars was done with Pan Pastels. 

Jim Brewer


Re: X23 lettering

radiodial868
 

4+ years to finish a resin project?  I have a couple of those, but do get them done eventually,too.  Usually as you note, when certain data or parts becomes available.  Really nice build of a car you don't normally see, and with character that makes it stand out. Plus I have a liking for single sheaths anyway.
-------------------
RJ Dial

Mendocino, CA


Re: Walthers #932-5850 Single Sheathed Auto boxcar #932-5850

O Fenton Wells
 

Very nicely done Bill
Fenton

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 12:41 PM Bill Welch <fgexbill@...> wrote:
Even rubbish can have utility. The fishbelly centersill was used for this model.

Bill Welch



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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Walthers #932-5850 Single Sheathed Auto boxcar #932-5850

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Wow, beautiful car, Bill!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Welch
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:41 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Walthers #932-5850 Single Sheathed Auto boxcar

 

Even rubbish can have utility. The fishbelly centersill was used for this model.

Bill Welch


Northern Pacific Livestock Forms

Bob Chaparro
 


Re: Walthers #932-5850 Single Sheathed Auto boxcar #932-5850

Bill Welch
 

Even rubbish can have utility. The fishbelly centersill was used for this model.

Bill Welch


Re: Some Good Photos of Wrecks with Freight Cars in them

Jim Betz
 

Charlie,
  Thanks for those - and for the shots of animals following the
ones of the train(s) - certainly demonstrates that the laws of
physics don't change.
                                                        - Jim


Offered: Sunshine Resin NP 14000-14499 box car kit

Andy Carlson
 


Hello-

Offering for sale; I have a new, never removed from box HO Sunshine Models kit #52.6 Northern Pacific single sheathed 40' box car kit. This version has lettering for "1950s-1960s Main Street". This was purchased from Martin when he was shipping in the boxes with labels taped on. Martin's tape sealing of the box lid is intact, insuring that this kit has not been opened.

Offered for $55 and I pay shipping. It will be Kraft wrapped before mailing.
I accept checks and money orders. With a small fee PayPal is welcomed. Contact me off-list (Please) for details at <midcentury@...>
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson, Ojai, CA.


Re: The Great Yellow Fleet

Ryan Laroche
 

Tony Thompson wrote:
 I can supply citations of the some scathing reviews of the book at the time it came out, if you like.
I for one would be very interested.

Thanks either way,
Ryan Laroche
Red Deer County, AB


Re: Walthers #932-5850 Single Sheathed Auto boxcar #932-5850

Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

I asked:
  "Does anyone here know the prototype for Walthers #932-5850 series 50 ft. Auto box?"
  And Bill Welch replied:
"In a word: Rubbish. Sorry to disappoint" . .
 
    And Ben Hom was Kind enough to pointout the two articles from Richard Hendrickson in the
July 1996 and July 1997 issues of RMJ, the first dealing with the similar MDC model and the
latter the Walthers version. Fortunately I had long since photocopied both articles and placed
them in protective sleeves in three ring binders that I use for such things so both are here at 
hand. I was hoping that some new or additional information on the Walthers version in
particular migh have been unearthed in the last 26 years but perhaps not. 

   In all due respect, Bill, iyour response didn't disappoint me. You simply summed up your feelings 
in one word the way I've been known to do myself on more than one occasion. If one were to use 
the end door supplied with the Walthers kit without considerably reworking it I'd have to agree but 
if one can find a prototype and use the Walthers car with two standard ends "rubbish" might be a
bit strong. Clearly I have some more research to do but thanks to both of you for your replies.

Cordially, Don Valentine




Re: Intermountain Deco end XM'x and others For Sale

Ted Schnepf
 






Hello Everyone,

the new Deco end cars from Intermountain have sold very well this past week, and I have another shipment on hand, so if you missed the first round, you get a second chance..

Included are 3 boxcars with the distinctive Deco ends. They are a B&O ( with the capital herald),  C&O original paint and C&O "For Progress" lettering.  Each come in 6 numbers

Other cars include the C&EI yellow with blue lettering and single digit numbers and different slogans for passenger trains (five numbers).  A couple unique shortlines. Copper Range from Michigan's upper peninsula and Atlantic & East Carolina with an attractive herald. Two Canadian cars with NSC-2 ends for Ontario Northland and CN.  And then to round out the shipment new cars for Lackwana and NYC in Jade green,

All cars are new for IM.

All are at discounted pricing.  Inquire off list.

And don't for get the shippers guides at my website. the newest being Louisville and Nashville RR and Chicago North Western and many others from all parts of the country.
http://railsunlimited.ribbonrail.com/Books/shippers.html

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Ted Schnepf
126 Will Scarlet
,Elgin, Ill. 60120

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Re: Walthers #932-5850 Single Sheathed Auto boxcar #932-5850

Bill Welch
 

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 07:33 AM, Donald B. Valentine wrote:
Hello folks,
 
    Does anyone here know the prototype for Walthers #932-5850 series 50 ft. Auto box?
Don Valentine
In a word: Rubbish

Sorry to disappoint. . .
Bill Welch
 


Re: Walthers #932-5850 Single Sheathed Auto boxcar #932-5850

Benjamin Hom
 

Don Valentine asked:
"Does anyone here know the prototype for Walthers #932-5850 series 50 ft. Auto box? Also, if a prototype(s) is known how does the accuracy of the model stack up?"

Check the group archives as this model has been discussed before.  Long story short, Walthers quickly tooled this model to compete with MDC's much supeior and accurate line of 50 ft SS auto boxcars.  It really doesn't really model any prototype, with the end door being particularly bad with its giant hinges that stick out on the sides of the car.  See Richard Hendrickson's articles in the July 1995 and July 1996 issues of Railmodel Journal for more information.


Ben Hom



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