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Re: Walthers #932-5850 Single Sheathed Auto boxcar #932-5850

Tim O'Connor
 


I remember when these cars came out that my friend Leo Landry figured out how to cut
them up to make 40 foot cars for some road or other. So the kits have their uses! :-)

Tim O'Connor






On 3/27/2020 7:49 AM, Benjamin Hom wrote:
Don Valentine asked:
"Does anyone here know the prototype for Walthers #932-5850 series 50 ft. Auto box? Also, if a prototype(s) is known how does the accuracy of the model stack up?"

Check the group archives as this model has been discussed before.  Long story short, Walthers quickly tooled this model to compete with MDC's much supeior and accurate line of 50 ft SS auto boxcars.  It really doesn't really model any prototype, with the end door being particularly bad with its giant hinges that stick out on the sides of the car.  See Richard Hendrickson's articles in the July 1995 and July 1996 issues of Railmodel Journal for more information.


Ben Hom


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Intermountain Deco end XM'x and others For Sale

Tim O'Connor
 


I'd forgotten about the Branchline cars! Yes, they did the scheme, and yes, those also
were incorrect because of the ends.

Tim O'Connor


On 3/28/2020 11:39 AM, Drew M. via Groups.Io wrote:
Des Plaines did the A&EC scheme with tobacco leaf scheme on a Viking roof car and Branchline also offered same on a Yardmaster series kit.

Drew Marshall in soggy Philly, PA

Modeling the pre-Depression years.

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On Mar 27, 2020, at 19:39, "David via Groups.Io" <yahoo.com@groups.io target=_blank>jaydeet2001=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
You're a year too early. Southern sent 100 of their AAR '37 boxes to 
A&EC in 1954. This may be the first time Intermountain has run the A&EC 
scheme, but I know it's been done before in HO (probably by Red Caboose, 
or maybe Des Plaines?).

David Thompson


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: A&EC box cars (was Intermountain Deco end XM)

Tim O'Connor
 

Francis

The "S" and "W" both refer to the shape of interior corner POSTS applied to the cars.
They also happen to be reflected in the shape of the overlap on the ends - a "square"
shape and a "round" shape respectively.

As I wrote, IRC does not make the correct end. Early "1937 AAR" standard box cars built
for the Southern, Southern Pacific, and others, had the S corner posts.

Tim O'Connor

On 3/28/2020 11:47 AM, rdgbuff56 via Groups.Io wrote:
I have heard of square-corned ends, I believe W corner ends, terminating and non-terminating ends. I have never heard of S cornered ends. Are they W ends with different name? Basic appearance - round cornered.

Francis A. Pehowic, Jr.
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*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


Great Northern 50-foot rebuild #39345—Was Walthers #932-5850 Single Sheathed Auto boxcar #39345—was #932-5850

Bill Welch
 

Bill, that is a splendid model.  Please tell us more about how you built the rest of it.

Doug Polinder
Poquoson VA

Thank you for your kind words Doug and for possibly overlooking my attempt at peeling paint on the roof that looks to me more like bird droppings. The superstructure is a set of resin casting I purchased from Andy Carlson in the mid-1990's and are patterns done by a very good friend of his using pieces of C&BT Car Shops 40-foot boxcars to make the parts. It represents a steel re-build of one of the GN's 50-ft SS boxcars. I am pretty sure it was inspired by a photo in an early RMJ article. I believe the decals are Champ. I do remember having to use pieces or bits of green decal material to come up with the correct looking "DF" symbol. Paint is either Badger's "Modelflex" or predessor Accuflex paint. I built it over 20 years ago so am a little foggy on the details but I am certain about the highlight I have written here. Hope this answers your question Doug.

Bill Welch


Re: A&EC box cars (was Intermountain Deco end XM)

rdgbuff56
 

I have heard of square-corned ends, I believe W corner ends, terminating and non-terminating ends. I have never heard of S cornered ends. Are they W ends with different name? Basic appearance - round cornered.

Francis A. Pehowic, Jr.

On Saturday, March 28, 2020, 11:36:16 AM EDT, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@comcast.net> wrote:






The Intermountain cars must be incorrect, since IRC does not make the
S-corner ends.

Tim O'Connor


On 3/27/2020 7:38 PM, David via Groups.Io wrote:
You're a year too early. Southern sent 100 of their AAR '37 boxes to
A&EC in 1954. This may be the first time Intermountain has run the
A&EC scheme, but I know it's been done before in HO (probably by Red
Caboose, or maybe Des Plaines?).

David Thompson

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*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


Re: RPM Chicagoland News

Tim O'Connor
 


That's very optimistic of him. I hope he's right. Personally, I think 2020 is over.
Plan to have fun in 2021 instead! Think of all the fresh models we'll see in 2021 !

Tim O'




On 3/27/2020 6:03 AM, Jeremy Dummler wrote:
We are excited to share that Frank Hodina has found a new location for RPM Chicagoland! The event will be held on Friday evening, October 30 and during the day on Saturday, October 31 at the Northern Illinois University Naperville Conference Center in Naperville, Illinois. Registration and event details will be coming soon to the website. Updates will also be posted on the RPM Chicagoland Facebook page as we make preparations for the 27th RPM Chicagoland event.
The RPM Chicagoland Team


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Intermountain Deco end XM'x and others For Sale

Drew M.
 

Des Plaines did the A&EC scheme with tobacco leaf scheme on a Viking roof car and Branchline also offered same on a Yardmaster series kit.

Drew Marshall in soggy Philly, PA

Modeling the pre-Depression years.

Sent from TypeApp

On Mar 27, 2020, at 19:39, "David via Groups.Io" <yahoo.com@groups.io target=_blank>jaydeet2001=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
You're a year too early. Southern sent 100 of their AAR '37 boxes to 
A&EC in 1954. This may be the first time Intermountain has run the A&EC
scheme, but I know it's been done before in HO (probably by Red Caboose,
or maybe Des Plaines?).

David Thompson




Re: A&EC box cars (was Intermountain Deco end XM)

Tim O'Connor
 

The Intermountain cars must be incorrect, since IRC does not make the S-corner ends.

Tim O'Connor

On 3/27/2020 7:38 PM, David via Groups.Io wrote:
You're a year too early. Southern sent 100 of their AAR '37 boxes to A&EC in 1954. This may be the first time Intermountain has run the A&EC scheme, but I know it's been done before in HO (probably by Red Caboose, or maybe Des Plaines?).

David Thompson
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*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


Re: Intermountain Deco end XM'x and others For Sale

James E Kubanick
 

It was done by DesPlaines.

Jim Kubanick
Morgantown WV

On Saturday, March 28, 2020, 1:56:20 AM EDT, Ed Hawkins <hawk0621@...> wrote:




On Mar 27, 2020, at 6:38 PM, David via Groups.Io <jaydeet2001@...> wrote:

You're a year too early. Southern sent 100 of their AAR '37 boxes to A&EC in 1954. This may be the first time Intermountain has run the A&EC scheme, but I know it's been done before in HO (probably by Red Caboose, or maybe Des Plaines?).

David,
Des Plaines Hobbies offered the special run of A&EC models that were made by Innovative Model Works (IMWX). The kit I purchased is catalogue no. DPH193, A&EC 1045, having square-corner 4-5 Dreadnaught ends and HE. 3-54 reweigh stencils. It was formerly a Southern car built in 1938. 

The model came with a wood running board, whereas the A&EC cars received replacement Morton running boards. 

The IMWX tooling was later sold to Red Caboose ca. 1996, however, I have found no evidence from Red Caboose product lists that the company ever offered the A&EC model. 
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: Walthers #932-5850 Single Sheathed Auto boxcar #932-5850

Doug Polinder
 

Bill, that is a splendid model.  Please tell us more about how you built the rest of it.

Doug Polinder
Poquoson VA


Re: Intermountain Deco end XM'x and others For Sale

Ed Hawkins
 



On Mar 27, 2020, at 6:38 PM, David via Groups.Io <jaydeet2001@...> wrote:

You're a year too early. Southern sent 100 of their AAR '37 boxes to A&EC in 1954. This may be the first time Intermountain has run the A&EC scheme, but I know it's been done before in HO (probably by Red Caboose, or maybe Des Plaines?).

David,
Des Plaines Hobbies offered the special run of A&EC models that were made by Innovative Model Works (IMWX). The kit I purchased is catalogue no. DPH193, A&EC 1045, having square-corner 4-5 Dreadnaught ends and HE. 3-54 reweigh stencils. It was formerly a Southern car built in 1938. 

The model came with a wood running board, whereas the A&EC cars received replacement Morton running boards. 

The IMWX tooling was later sold to Red Caboose ca. 1996, however, I have found no evidence from Red Caboose product lists that the company ever offered the A&EC model. 
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: Intermountain Deco end XM'x and others For Sale

Tony Thompson
 

David Thompson wrote:

You're a year too early. Southern sent 100 of their AAR '37 boxes to A&EC in 1954.
Might as well be a decade.

Tony Thompson
tony@signaturepress.com


Intermountain Deco end XM'x and others For Sale

David
 

You're a year too early. Southern sent 100 of their AAR '37 boxes to A&EC in 1954. This may be the first time Intermountain has run the A&EC scheme, but I know it's been done before in HO (probably by Red Caboose, or maybe Des Plaines?).

David Thompson


Re: The Great Yellow Fleet

Tony Thompson
 

Ryan Laroche wrote:

I was able to find some of your's and Richard's comments in the list archive. Its good to know which parts are more accurate then others. The book still has a place on my bookshelf next to later and dare I say better resources.

     John White's historical writing is simply excellent, and in TGYF the text, at least prior to 1930, is entirely reliable.(For later years, Duke even added text.)  But Duke added a lot of the photos throughout the book and wrote the captions, so unfortunately you cannot necessarily trust ANY figure caption in the book.
      It's too bad, as this book would be a great resource if done as John White intended. OTOH, as Duke perceived, it would have had lesser sales appeal if it tapered off in the 1920s, which is where White's personal interests tapered off.

Tony Thompson




Re: The Great Yellow Fleet

Ryan Laroche
 

Tony, 

Thank you, I will seek out both of those issues. 

I was able to find some of your's and Richard's comments in the list archive. Its good to know which parts are more accurate then others. The book still has a place on my bookshelf next to later and dare I say better resources.

Ryan


SOLD: Sunshine Resin NP 14000-14499 box car kit

Andy Carlson
 

A fast sell to one of our own! The car has been sold. Thanks,

-Andy Carlson    Ojai CA



Hello-

Offering for sale; I have a new, never removed from box HO Sunshine Models kit #52.6 Northern Pacific single sheathed 40' box car kit. This version has lettering for "1950s-1960s Main Street". This was purchased from Martin when he was shipping in the boxes with labels taped on. Martin's tape sealing of the box lid is intact, insuring that this kit has not been opened.


Offered for $55 and I pay shipping. It will be Kraft wrapped before mailing.
I accept checks and money orders. With a small fee PayPal is welcomed. Contact me off-list (Please) for details at <midcentury@...>
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson, Ojai, CA.


Re: The Great Yellow Fleet

Tony Thompson
 

Ryan Laroche wrote:

Tony Thompson wrote:
 I can supply citations of the some scathing reviews of the book at the time it came out, if you like.

I for one would be very interested.

       Richard Hendrickson reviewed White's book in the old _Santa Fe Modeler_ magazine of the Santa Fe Modelers Organization, in the spring 1987 issue, pp. 24-26; I reviewed it in _The Streamliner_ magazine, the UPHS publication, in the October 1986 issue, pp. 36, 37.
        I don't know whether either one is available on line.

Tony Thompson




Re: Intermountain Deco end XM'x and others For Sale

Tony Thompson
 

Ted Schnepf wrote:

Other cars include . . . Atlantic & East Carolina with an attractive herald. 

     It is indeed an attractive herald. However. Can't speak for other eras, but in my modeling year of 1953, the ORER entry for A&EC says that "freight cars owned are not employed in interstate commerce." 

Tony Thompson




Re: Walthers #932-5850 Single Sheathed Auto boxcar #932-5850

Steve and Barb Hile
 

A long, long time ago, I addressed this issue by shortening the Walthers car to 40 feet and using the auto door end from a Funaro & Carmelengo kit, since it came with a spare end, anyway.  The result was pretty reasonable.

Steve Hile

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Welch
Sent: Mar 27, 2020 11:40 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Walthers #932-5850 Single Sheathed Auto boxcar

Even rubbish can have utility. The fishbelly centersill was used for this model.

Bill Welch


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Two recent resin builds

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Nice cars, Jim!  I really like the differential board weathering.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Brewer
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:00 PM
To: ResinFreightCa. <resinfreightcarbuilders@groups.io>; main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Two recent resin builds

 

I took a break from working on the layout after the first of the year and decided to build some steam era freight cars. I completed two plastic kits and two resin kits.

BS 6528 is a 10' IH War Emergency Boxcar offered by Sunshine as Kit No. 29.2. I have others of this series from Sunshine in my stash and hope to get to them soon. This kit was a delight to build as everything just seemed to fit together well. I did substitute a Kadee running board for the kit supplied etched part.

CB&Q 46840 is Sunshine Kit No. 22.3 and represents a CB&Q XA-14C class boxcar. This car is the “plain Jane” of this group of cars, many of which were rebuilt to become the “Bomber Box Cars” that were recently discussed on the Steam Era Freight Car List. I did have to overcoat the kit supplied decals with several coats of Microscale Liquid Decal Film.

Weathering on both cars was done with Pan Pastels. 

Jim Brewer

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