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Re: Westerfield NB box car

mel perry
 

thank you all very much
:-)
sent from solitary
mel perry

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020, 3:04 PM Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
Mel,

No. It proceeded the X29. These, as discussed earlier in this thread, are the NYC "USRA" steel boxcars. 

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Westerfield NB box car
 
out of curiousity, is this car a derivative
of the X29?
thanks
sent from solitary
:-)
mel perry

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020, 11:37 AM Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:
I won a Westerfield NB box car as a door prize at CCB. Started on the kit this morning. Beautiful one piece body model BTW. Chances of seeing one of these cars around here are slim to none.There's plenty of info on NYC cars in the history sheets supplied. Don't know just how close this model is to them, but I'm guess it's the same.  I model 48-50 so I'm guessing  the NYC roofs were replaced? The Hannibal Connecting had the same cars as the NB. 'Might' be a better chance of seeing one of those here? Can I do a NYC car with a flat panel roof and three panel door?
Thanks, 
CW Propst


Re: Westerfield NB box car

Bruce Smith
 

Mel,

No. It proceeded the X29. These, as discussed earlier in this thread, are the NYC "USRA" steel boxcars. 

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of mel perry <clipper841@...>
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 4:34 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Westerfield NB box car
 
out of curiousity, is this car a derivative
of the X29?
thanks
sent from solitary
:-)
mel perry

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020, 11:37 AM Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:
I won a Westerfield NB box car as a door prize at CCB. Started on the kit this morning. Beautiful one piece body model BTW. Chances of seeing one of these cars around here are slim to none.There's plenty of info on NYC cars in the history sheets supplied. Don't know just how close this model is to them, but I'm guess it's the same.  I model 48-50 so I'm guessing  the NYC roofs were replaced? The Hannibal Connecting had the same cars as the NB. 'Might' be a better chance of seeing one of those here? Can I do a NYC car with a flat panel roof and three panel door?
Thanks, 
CW Propst


Re: Westerfield NB box car

Ken
 

Mel,
Six side posts per side instead of eight on X-29.
 
Ken Gross


Re: Some Good Photos of Wrecks with Freight Cars in them

Brent Greer
 

Thank you for sharing this photo.  I am hoping to get our friend Dr. Dave Campbell to produce these ends for me. They are a proprietary ACF end and in addition to SSW, I have photos and drawings of them being applied to N&W boxcars and stock cars (so I will be needing lots of these)

Brent



Dr. J. Brent Greer


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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Some Good Photos of Wrecks with Freight Cars in them
 
I think photo is attached.

Brian


Re: Westerfield NB box car

mel perry
 

out of curiousity, is this car a derivative
of the X29?
thanks
sent from solitary
:-)
mel perry

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020, 11:37 AM Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:
I won a Westerfield NB box car as a door prize at CCB. Started on the kit this morning. Beautiful one piece body model BTW. Chances of seeing one of these cars around here are slim to none.There's plenty of info on NYC cars in the history sheets supplied. Don't know just how close this model is to them, but I'm guess it's the same.  I model 48-50 so I'm guessing  the NYC roofs were replaced? The Hannibal Connecting had the same cars as the NB. 'Might' be a better chance of seeing one of those here? Can I do a NYC car with a flat panel roof and three panel door?
Thanks, 
CW Propst


IM Deco End Car Question

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
 

Friends,

I just received my Deco end C&O "For Progress" car from Ted Schnepf (Thanks again Ted). It is a  lot better assembled than the NS car I bought elsewhere a couple of years ago, with its running board looking like a washboard).

Question: My car has a circle with a line through the center in the middle of the door. AFAIK, this indicates some sort of tie-down devices. I see nothing about these cars being in any special service in my ORER. Any comments?

The car is reweigh 4-1949, which I presume is when these were repainted. I need to change this date, but that is a small thing. 

Yours Aye,

Mungo Napier, Laird of Mallard Lodge  🦆


Re: Westerfield NB box car

Ken
 

Hello, Clark and STMFC group!
 
Here is my Westerfield NB boxcar built some years ago.
There is a great article on these cars and other USRA derivative steel boxcars by Eric Neubauer in the January 1995 RMC.
Ken Gross
 


Re: RPM Chicagoland News

Tom Madden
 

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 09:43 AM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

That's very optimistic of him. I hope he's right. Personally, I think 2020 is over.
Plan to have fun in 2021 instead! Think of all the fresh models we'll see in 2021 !
As as far as I know it's planned as a one day (Saturday) local meet with setup on Friday evening - the building isn't accessible until 4 pm. Don't think they expect anyone to travel a long distance to it, if traveling is even wise by then. The Sheraton - Lisle would rather do weddings on Saturdays than conventions so they've priced themselves out of range for meets like ours. And since the contract was up after last years meet, the Sheraton had already scheduled events for the weekend we would have been using this year. The virus changes everything of course, and I agree with Tim and Dick.

Tom Madden





On 3/27/2020 6:03 AM, Jeremy Dummler wrote:

We are excited to share that Frank Hodina has found a new location for RPM Chicagoland! The event will be held on Friday evening, October 30 and during the day on Saturday, October 31 at the Northern Illinois University Naperville Conference Center in Naperville, Illinois. Registration and event details will be coming soon to the website. Updates will also be posted on the RPM Chicagoland Facebook page as we make preparations for the 27th RPM Chicagoland event.
 
The RPM Chicagoland Team

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Some Good Photos of Wrecks with Freight Cars in them

brianleppert@att.net
 

I think photo is attached.

Brian


Re: Some Good Photos of Wrecks with Freight Cars in them

brianleppert@att.net
 

Very interesting end on the SSW boxcar on page 9.

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV


Re: A&EC box cars (was Intermountain Deco end XM)

Tim O'Connor
 


Thanks for the correction Ed !

To add to your list - 936, 1019 & 1020 also had round corner ends.

The other photos I have are all duplicates of yours.

Tim O'Connor

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On 3/28/2020 3:57 PM, Ed Hawkins wrote:
On Mar 28, 2020, at 11:03 AM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

I'd forgotten about the Branchline cars! Yes, they did the scheme, and yes, those also
were incorrect because of the ends.

Tim (off list),
Not all of the A&EC box cars had square-corner Dreadnaught ends. Some that A&EC received were built in 1941 with “W”-section/round-corner Dreadnaught ends. It would take company records to know the origin of all cars as they were mixed.

Here’s a list of 10 photos I have. Perhaps you have others that can be added. 

Square-corner ends: 992, 1015, 1030, 1038, 1044, 1045, 1080

Round-corner ends: 1039, 1081, 1096

Ed



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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: RPM Chicagoland News

mel perry
 

dick:
yes please
thanks
mel perry

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020, 12:43 PM Dick Harley via Groups.Io <dick.harley4up=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Hate to say this, but I think I am done traveling until there is a proven vaccine for COVID-19 - or it stops on its own (seems unlikely).

Freight car research does continue.  Just finished a full roster spreadsheet of UP class A-50-17 auto cars. 
Contact me off list, if you are interested.

Stay Safe & Healthy,
Dick Harley
Laguna Beach,  CA


Re: Some Good Photos of Wrecks with Freight Cars in them

Todd Sullivan
 

Not only that, but when they wrecked something back then - autos and trains - they really destroyed them!  Glad my car is a lot more robust than those tin lizzies of the 1930s.

Todd Sullivan


Re: RPM Chicagoland News

Dick Harley
 


Hate to say this, but I think I am done traveling until there is a proven vaccine for COVID-19 - or it stops on its own (seems unlikely).

Freight car research does continue.  Just finished a full roster spreadsheet of UP class A-50-17 auto cars. 
Contact me off list, if you are interested.

Stay Safe & Healthy,
Dick Harley
Laguna Beach,  CA


Re: Westerfield NB box car

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Thank you Ben!

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Benjamin Hom
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Westerfield NB box car

 

Schuyler Larrabee wrote:
"...the date on the HC car in photo you attached is 8-49.  Is that the date that the HC would have acquired these cars?" 

 

No.  Universal Cement sold the cars to NB and HC in 1935-36.

 

 

Ben Hom


Santa Fe boxcar 274470

Lester Breuer
 

I have completed the build of Yarmouth Model Works resin Santa Fe boxcar, 274470, Santa Fe class Bx48.  If you are interested in the build of this car including addition of details not in the kit, photos and writeup of the build process including painting are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you would like to take a look please do at the following link:

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/
 

Lester Breuer


Re: Westerfield NB box car

Benjamin Hom
 

Schuyler Larrabee wrote:
"...the date on the HC car in photo you attached is 8-49.  Is that the date that the HC would have acquired these cars?" 

No.  Universal Cement sold the cars to NB and HC in 1935-36.


Ben Hom


Re: Westerfield NB box car

Schuyler Larrabee
 

So Tim, the date on the HC car in photo you attached is 8-49.  Is that the date that the HC would have acquired these cars?

 

Excellent photo, BTW.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 12:15 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Westerfield NB box car

 


Some NB cars lasted to the 1970's and in THOSE days they could appear just
about anywhere. I have pictures from way out west. Here's the only HC photo
that I've seen.




On 3/22/2020 4:28 PM, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford wrote:

Clark,

 

Both the HC and the N&B were chiefly cement carriers, so having their cars on your Iowa railroad would be like sending the proverbial "coals to Newcastle". I won't say it couldn't happen, but it would be a very rare event.

 

In my 1958 ORER, both lines have the same senior officers, and their business address was 1517 Frick Bldg., Pittsburg, PA. This perhaps accounts for having nearly identical boxcars.

 

Although it says nothing about the railroads, here is a Wikipedia page on the Frick Bldg. with some interesting bits of history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frick_Building .

 

Yours Aye,

Garth Groff  
🦆

 

 

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 2:37 PM Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:

I won a Westerfield NB box car as a door prize at CCB. Started on the kit this morning. Beautiful one piece body model BTW. Chances of seeing one of these cars around here are slim to none.There's plenty of info on NYC cars in the history sheets supplied. Don't know just how close this model is to them, but I'm guess it's the same.  I model 48-50 so I'm guessing  the NYC roofs were replaced? The Hannibal Connecting had the same cars as the NB. 'Might' be a better chance of seeing one of those here? Can I do a NYC car with a flat panel roof and three panel door?
Thanks, 
CW Propst

 


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: RPM Chicagoland News

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Very sadly, I agree with Tim.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 11:44 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] RPM Chicagoland News

 


That's very optimistic of him. I hope he's right. Personally, I think 2020 is over.
Plan to have fun in 2021 instead! Think of all the fresh models we'll see in 2021 !

Tim O'




On 3/27/2020 6:03 AM, Jeremy Dummler wrote:

We are excited to share that Frank Hodina has found a new location for RPM Chicagoland! The event will be held on Friday evening, October 30 and during the day on Saturday, October 31 at the Northern Illinois University Naperville Conference Center in Naperville, Illinois. Registration and event details will be coming soon to the website. Updates will also be posted on the RPM Chicagoland Facebook page as we make preparations for the 27th RPM Chicagoland event.

The RPM Chicagoland Team

 


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Walthers #932-5850 Single Sheathed Auto boxcar #932-5850

O Fenton Wells
 

Looks good Al, an oldie but a goodie
Fenton

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 12:57 PM al_brown03 <abrown@...> wrote:
Some years ago I detailed up one of these for the Illinois Central 40250 series. Photo attached.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.



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