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Re: Poorly Secured Load?

Charlie Vlk
 

All-
Looks like the photos were taken on the CB&Q (FTs in the background of one of the photos) likely in conjunction with damage claim.  Not the band shifting causing wearing off of the paint and maybe some pressure on the end blocking.
Charlie Vlk


On Apr 10, 2020, at 1:20 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:



Poorly Secured Load?

Two 1952 photos of the same load from the Tacoma Public Library Digital Collections:

http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061coll21/id/33748/rec/109

http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061coll21/id/34113/rec/103

I was a bit surprised to see that this large storage tank load was only secured by two steel bands/rods. Even with the bottom blocking I would think a third band/rod would be needed to provide extra security should one of the other two fail.

Opinions?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: C&O 9827

Jim Betz
 

Rich,
  VERY nicely done.  Thanks for sharing.  Stay well.    - Jim Betz


Re: AFE building NP car from LV Car

william darnaby
 

Some 40 years ago at an NMRA regional convention clinic Tony Koester remarked that “there is a prototype for everything but I reserve the right to laugh”.  For some reason that has stuck with me.

 

Bill Darnaby

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Benjamin Hom
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 3:08 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io; main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] AFE building NP car from LV Car

 

Tony Thompson wrote:

"There certainly is a prototype for a lot of odd things, but hardly 'anything.' And I will repeat my own personal mantra, that it's wise to model the typical and the commonplace, and restrain your modeler's joy in modeling the weird, the rare, and the one-off. That is, of course, if you are seeking to model reality."

 

"Modeling all of the exceptions does not make an exceptional layout." - John Nehrich

 

 

Ben Hom


Re: Hooker Chemical, Tacoma

Douglas Harding
 

I have toured the SS Jeremiah O’Brien. Great history lesson about the role and importance of the Liberty Ships and a lot fun.

 

For steam era freight car interests, the O’Brien is birthed within sight of the State Belt Railroad of San Francisco. Also a must for history buffs.

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bruce Smith
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 6:30 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Hooker Chemical, Tacoma

 

Really Don? 

 

Try the S,S, Jeremiah O'Brien 😉  https://www.ssjeremiahobrien.org

 

There is one on each coast. Indeed each of these ships struggles, because they are now approaching 80 years old, and a ship build in 7 days was never designed to last that long.  Not to mention ANY ship requires significant ongoing investment (def of "boat" - "a hole into the water into which you pour money")

 

So no, no east/west bias to be seen here.

 

Regards,

Bruce

 

 


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Donald B. Valentine via groups.io <riverman_vt@...>
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 6:13 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Hooker Chemical, Tacoma

 

     What a shame to cut up the Liberty Ships. I gather there was no interest on the Left Coast to restore one 

as has been done on the East Coast with the John W. Brown out of Baltimore on which crusies are offered or 

even just tours such as on the DDE USS Slater in Albany, NY or the USS Kidd in Baton Rouge, LA. IIRC there

is also a WW II flat top in NYC.

 

Cordially, Don Valentine

 


Re: C&O 9827

Eric Hansmann
 

Nice work on  that car, Rich! Thanks for sharing.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Remiarz
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 6:57 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io; ResinFreightCarBuilders@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] C&O 9827

 

Last month I asked for information on the C&O 1930 40' automobile boxcars.  Thank you to everyone that responded.  The information provided was very helpful.  I just completed the car today. 

 

This is a F&C one-piece body kit.  I added TMW Buckeye trucks, Red Caboose 7 rung ladders, DA tackboards, DA roping rings, HiTech Details air hoses and brackets, DA coupler cut levers, Yarmouth cut lever brackets and brake levers, with Grandt Line turnbuckles and DA chain used on the brake gear.  I used TruColor TCP-219 C&O Freight Car Red paint with Speedwitch decals.  Since the car was repainted only 10 months before the date I model, a light coat of weathering was applied using Pan Pastel Raw Umber and Neutral Grey Extra Dark.

 

Sincerely,

Rich Remiarz

Vadnais Heights, MN

 


Re: Hooker Chemical, Tacoma

maynard stowe
 

Don,
There is a Liberty Ship in San Francisco and a Victory Ship---a more modern successor to the Liberty Ship --in Richmond and may be more on the coast.
Maynard Stowe


Re: C&O 9827

O Fenton Wells
 

Nicely done
Good finish on the model
Fenton

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 7:57 PM Richard Remiarz <rremiarz@...> wrote:
Last month I asked for information on the C&O 1930 40' automobile boxcars.  Thank you to everyone that responded.  The information provided was very helpful.  I just completed the car today. 

This is a F&C one-piece body kit.  I added TMW Buckeye trucks, Red Caboose 7 rung ladders, DA tackboards, DA roping rings, HiTech Details air hoses and brackets, DA coupler cut levers, Yarmouth cut lever brackets and brake levers, with Grandt Line turnbuckles and DA chain used on the brake gear.  I used TruColor TCP-219 C&O Freight Car Red paint with Speedwitch decals.  Since the car was repainted only 10 months before the date I model, a light coat of weathering was applied using Pan Pastel Raw Umber and Neutral Grey Extra Dark.

Sincerely,
Rich Remiarz
Vadnais Heights, MN



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250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
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C&O 9827

Richard Remiarz
 

Last month I asked for information on the C&O 1930 40' automobile boxcars.  Thank you to everyone that responded.  The information provided was very helpful.  I just completed the car today. 

This is a F&C one-piece body kit.  I added TMW Buckeye trucks, Red Caboose 7 rung ladders, DA tackboards, DA roping rings, HiTech Details air hoses and brackets, DA coupler cut levers, Yarmouth cut lever brackets and brake levers, with Grandt Line turnbuckles and DA chain used on the brake gear.  I used TruColor TCP-219 C&O Freight Car Red paint with Speedwitch decals.  Since the car was repainted only 10 months before the date I model, a light coat of weathering was applied using Pan Pastel Raw Umber and Neutral Grey Extra Dark.

Sincerely,
Rich Remiarz
Vadnais Heights, MN


Re: Hooker Chemical, Tacoma

Bruce Smith
 

Really Don? 

Try the S,S, Jeremiah O'Brien 😉  https://www.ssjeremiahobrien.org

There is one on each coast. Indeed each of these ships struggles, because they are now approaching 80 years old, and a ship build in 7 days was never designed to last that long.  Not to mention ANY ship requires significant ongoing investment (def of "boat" - "a hole into the water into which you pour money")

So no, no east/west bias to be seen here.

Regards,
Bruce



From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Donald B. Valentine via groups.io <riverman_vt@...>
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 6:13 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Hooker Chemical, Tacoma
 
     What a shame to cut up the Liberty Ships. I gather there was no interest on the Left Coast to restore one 
as has been done on the East Coast with the John W. Brown out of Baltimore on which crusies are offered or 
even just tours such as on the DDE USS Slater in Albany, NY or the USS Kidd in Baton Rouge, LA. IIRC there
is also a WW II flat top in NYC.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: Hooker Chemical, Tacoma

Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

     What a shame to cut up the Liberty Ships. I gather there was no interest on the Left Coast to restore one 
as has been done on the East Coast with the John W. Brown out of Baltimore on which crusies are offered or 
even just tours such as on the DDE USS Slater in Albany, NY or the USS Kidd in Baton Rouge, LA. IIRC there
is also a WW II flat top in NYC.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: Erie RR track scale abbreviations

Jack Mullen
 

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 01:09 PM, lrkdbn wrote:
What would be some Erie track scale abbreviations ca.1930?
One of the great resources in the group's files is a spreadsheet  of many reweigh scale codes. You can find it titled "Station & reweigh symbols.xls" , or this link should the you there:
https://realstmfc.groups.io/g/main/files/Station%20&%20Reweigh%20Symbols.xls

Jack Mullen


Re: Rapido HO cars for sale

Nelson Moyer
 

Rapido announced a third run of their meat reefers, and they're taking orders for four packs with new paint schemes. The red Swift scheme is in this run.

Nelson Moyer

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ted Schnepf
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 5:07 PM
To: STMFC <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Rapido HO cars for sale

Hello,

All this meat train talk had me check stock and can offer two Rapido 37' meet reefers. There is one Dugdale and one Wimp packing.

Also from Rapido is the NP 40' double sheathed boxcar, with radial roof. Four car numbers to choose from. Pre War version.

Contact me offf list for any of these cars.

Rails Unlimited
Ted Schnepf
126 Will Scarlet,
Elgin, Ill. 60120

847=697-5353


Re: AFE building NP car from LV Car

Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

Hello Brian,

   Good to see that you are back with us!

My best, Don Valentine
   


Rapido HO cars for sale

Ted Schnepf
 

Hello,

All this meat train talk had me check stock and can offer two Rapido 37' meet reefers. There is one Dugdale and one Wimp packing.

Also from Rapido is the NP 40' double sheathed boxcar, with radial roof. Four car numbers to choose from. Pre War version.

Contact me offf list for any of these cars.

Rails Unlimited
Ted Schnepf
126 Will Scarlet,
Elgin, Ill. 60120

847=697-5353


Re: Adding some color to the fright car roster UP #57068

O Fenton Wells
 

I believe it was 1947


On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 4:53 PM Donald B. Valentine via groups.io <riverman_vt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
    NIce touch with the replaced plamnk, Fenton. I've done that for years with box car and reefer sheathing.
No reason not to apply the same technique here. Your comment about white lettering raises a question,
however. When di the UP change from white to tellow freight car lettering? That's something I need to pay
more attention to with a cut-off date of 31 Dec. 1948, a eriod of many such chanes.

Cordially, Don Valentine



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Re: Adding some color to the fright car roster UP #57068

gtws00
 

That car really turned out nice. 
George Toman


Re: Adding some color to the fright car roster UP #57068

Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

    NIce touch with the replaced plamnk, Fenton. I've done that for years with box car and reefer sheathing.
No reason not to apply the same technique here. Your comment about white lettering raises a question,
however. When di the UP change from white to tellow freight car lettering? That's something I need to pay
more attention to with a cut-off date of 31 Dec. 1948, a eriod of many such chanes.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Erie RR track scale abbreviations

David
 

Here's a 1917-built car reweighed at "BFO":

http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-12-09-19/X4529.jpg

David Thompson


Re: Poorly Secured Load?

Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

   I'll go a bit further than Ron's suggestion that there is a "Do  ot Hump" placard, or will be before it
leaves town, on this load. Given the width of the tank, as evidenced by the inward taper of the tie 
down bamds, one wonders if this car wold be moved in regualr service or as a "High Wide" move.
The blocking looks substantial which might mean that the bands are perfectly adequate if their 
strength were known. Bob suggests the need for a third one. Where? In the middle? The ability
of another band in the middle would be badly compromised if ether of the end bands failed. I'd 
prefer to see a double band on each end if there were any doubt at all, which there is with me, 
about the two present but that may come from my 35 years of insuring railroads.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Erie RR track scale abbreviations

lrkdbn
 

Dear group.
I am currently finishing a Westerfield Erie Dominion Fowler box car. What would be some Erie track scale abbreviations ca.1930?
Thanks for any help you can give
Stay Safe!!!
LR King <lrkdbn@...>

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