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Re: Adding some color to the fright car roster UP #57068

Ryan Mendell
 

Looks great Fenton.  I have one of these in my stash and a set of Teds decals.  Did you add any weights or is the car weight ok out of the box?

Ryan


On Apr 10, 2020, at 1:59 PM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

In an effort to add more color to my fleet I have revised a P2K flat car from black to the UP.  I have liked this car since I saw Bob Smaus version in MR a few years ago.  Then Ted's vol IV of Prototype Railroad Modeling highlighted these cars so off I went.  I modeled this as a 1951 repaint so no white lettering and used Ted's excellent decals.
This is my first use of the new Kadee flat car brake wheel and stem.  It is excellent and I highly recommend it.
I didn't put this on the resin builder site as it is a plastic car. Not sure where it goes, so here I am

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Re: Kadee brake wheel (was Adding some color to the fright car roster UP #57068)

Tim O'Connor
 

Those wheels were made for the Kadee skeleton log flats. I have a bunch of them.
They have been around for many years.

On 4/11/2020 2:53 AM, mvlandsw wrote:
Nice job on the car Fenton. Where did you get the Kadee brake wheel? I can't find it on their site. I wonder if making that part means a flatcar model is in the works.

Mark Vinski
--
*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


Re: Adding some color to the fright car roster UP #57068

John Barry
 

Fenton,

That's a scary good build. Don't you just hate the spell checker? Your subject line is Freudian......

John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736

On Saturday, April 11, 2020, 09:09:21 AM EDT, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:


Thanks for the nice comments Mark and everyone 
Fenton 


On Apr 11, 2020, at 9:06 AM, Srrfan1401 <srrfan1401@...> wrote:


Mark, you will have to wait for Kadee to open back up after the virus subsided. Then call them and ask for Sam and he will sell you some. They are excellent and come in one piece, wheel and stem altogether 
Fenton 


On Apr 11, 2020, at 2:54 AM, mvlandsw <mvlandsw@...> wrote:

Nice job on the car Fenton. Where did you get the Kadee brake wheel? I can't find it on their site. I wonder if making that part means a flatcar model is in the works.

Mark Vinski


Re: Adding some color to the fright car roster UP #57068

O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks for the nice comments Mark and everyone 
Fenton 


On Apr 11, 2020, at 9:06 AM, Srrfan1401 <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Mark, you will have to wait for Kadee to open back up after the virus subsided. Then call them and ask for Sam and he will sell you some. They are excellent and come in one piece, wheel and stem altogether 
Fenton 


On Apr 11, 2020, at 2:54 AM, mvlandsw <mvlandsw@...> wrote:

Nice job on the car Fenton. Where did you get the Kadee brake wheel? I can't find it on their site. I wonder if making that part means a flatcar model is in the works.

Mark Vinski


Re: Adding some color to the fright car roster UP #57068

O Fenton Wells
 

Mark, you will have to wait for Kadee to open back up after the virus subsided. Then call them and ask for Sam and he will sell you some. They are excellent and come in one piece, wheel and stem altogether 
Fenton 


On Apr 11, 2020, at 2:54 AM, mvlandsw <mvlandsw@...> wrote:

Nice job on the car Fenton. Where did you get the Kadee brake wheel? I can't find it on their site. I wonder if making that part means a flatcar model is in the works.

Mark Vinski


Re: C&O 9827

Paul Doggett
 

Rich 

Very nicely done it looks great.

Paul Doggett.   England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 11 Apr 2020, at 01:02, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:


Nicely done
Good finish on the model
Fenton

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 7:57 PM Richard Remiarz <rremiarz@...> wrote:
Last month I asked for information on the C&O 1930 40' automobile boxcars.  Thank you to everyone that responded.  The information provided was very helpful.  I just completed the car today. 

This is a F&C one-piece body kit.  I added TMW Buckeye trucks, Red Caboose 7 rung ladders, DA tackboards, DA roping rings, HiTech Details air hoses and brackets, DA coupler cut levers, Yarmouth cut lever brackets and brake levers, with Grandt Line turnbuckles and DA chain used on the brake gear.  I used TruColor TCP-219 C&O Freight Car Red paint with Speedwitch decals.  Since the car was repainted only 10 months before the date I model, a light coat of weathering was applied using Pan Pastel Raw Umber and Neutral Grey Extra Dark.

Sincerely,
Rich Remiarz
Vadnais Heights, MN



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: Adding some color to the fright car roster UP #57068

Mark Vinski
 

Nice job on the car Fenton. Where did you get the Kadee brake wheel? I can't find it on their site. I wonder if making that part means a flatcar model is in the works.

Mark Vinski


Re: C&O 9827

Schuyler Larrabee
 

NICE!

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Remiarz
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 7:57 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io; ResinFreightCarBuilders@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] C&O 9827

 

Last month I asked for information on the C&O 1930 40' automobile boxcars.  Thank you to everyone that responded.  The information provided was very helpful.  I just completed the car today. 

 

This is a F&C one-piece body kit.  I added TMW Buckeye trucks, Red Caboose 7 rung ladders, DA tackboards, DA roping rings, HiTech Details air hoses and brackets, DA coupler cut levers, Yarmouth cut lever brackets and brake levers, with Grandt Line turnbuckles and DA chain used on the brake gear.  I used TruColor TCP-219 C&O Freight Car Red paint with Speedwitch decals.  Since the car was repainted only 10 months before the date I model, a light coat of weathering was applied using Pan Pastel Raw Umber and Neutral Grey Extra Dark.

 

Sincerely,

Rich Remiarz

Vadnais Heights, MN

 


Re: Poorly Secured Load?

mel perry
 

looks like the load did shift, look at the
end blocking
mel perry


On Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 7:55 PM Charlie Vlk <cvlk@...> wrote:
All-
Looks like the photos were taken on the CB&Q (FTs in the background of one of the photos) likely in conjunction with damage claim.  Not the band shifting causing wearing off of the paint and maybe some pressure on the end blocking.
Charlie Vlk


On Apr 10, 2020, at 1:20 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:



Poorly Secured Load?

Two 1952 photos of the same load from the Tacoma Public Library Digital Collections:

http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061coll21/id/33748/rec/109

http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061coll21/id/34113/rec/103

I was a bit surprised to see that this large storage tank load was only secured by two steel bands/rods. Even with the bottom blocking I would think a third band/rod would be needed to provide extra security should one of the other two fail.

Opinions?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Hooker Chemical, Tacoma

Ralph W. Brown
 

Hi Don,
 
That “flat top” would be the USS Intrepid (CV-11), the battleship USS Massachusetts (BB-59) is in Fall River, MA, and the USS Albacore (AGSS-569) is in Portsmouth, NH.  I’m sure there are others as well.  Unfortunately the USS Skipjack (SSN-585), “the first, the fastest and the finest nuclear powered teardrop hull” was decommissioned and  “recycled” in the 1990s after more than 30 years in front line service.
 
I was assigned Skipjack in my youth.  The State Pier in New London, CT, was our homeport back then (1963-‘64).  I used to cut through the CV yard going to and from the train station.  The CV still had one or more wood cabooses in the yard.  I like to be able to find the slides I shot at the time.  I even managed to get an interior shot that took from an end platform with the camera up against a somewhat grungy window in the door.  The result was a bit dark, but still pretty good under the circumstances.  There probably were other cars I should have photographed, but just couldn’t get past my fascination with those cabooses.  I don’t recall when I last saw it, but I love to find it and the numerous other railroad photographs, mostly slides, I’ve taken over the years.
 
Pax,
 
 
Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com
 

From: Donald B. Valentine via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 7:13 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Hooker Chemical, Tacoma
 
     What a shame to cut up the Liberty Ships. I gather there was no interest on the Left Coast to restore one
as has been done on the East Coast with the John W. Brown out of Baltimore on which crusies are offered or
even just tours such as on the DDE USS Slater in Albany, NY or the USS Kidd in Baton Rouge, LA. IIRC there
is also a WW II flat top in NYC.
 
Cordially, Don Valentine
 


Re: Hooker Chemical, Tacoma

John Barry
 

The Liberty Ship SS Jeremiah O'Brien is home ported in San Francisco. The Victory Ship SS Red Oak Victory is across the bay in Richmond, and the SS Lane Victory is in San Pedro.  The Gulf coast can also claim a preserved Victory ship in the form of SS American Victory in Tampa.  All of these would have carried cargo transloaded from Steam era freight cars.

John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736


On Friday, April 10, 2020, 07:30:31 PM EDT, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:


Really Don? 

Try the S,S, Jeremiah O'Brien 😉  https://www.ssjeremiahobrien.org

There is one on each coast. Indeed each of these ships struggles, because they are now approaching 80 years old, and a ship build in 7 days was never designed to last that long.  Not to mention ANY ship requires significant ongoing investment (def of "boat" - "a hole into the water into which you pour money")

So no, no east/west bias to be seen here.

Regards,
Bruce



From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Donald B. Valentine via groups.io <riverman_vt@...>
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 6:13 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Hooker Chemical, Tacoma
 
     What a shame to cut up the Liberty Ships. I gather there was no interest on the Left Coast to restore one 
as has been done on the East Coast with the John W. Brown out of Baltimore on which crusies are offered or 
even just tours such as on the DDE USS Slater in Albany, NY or the USS Kidd in Baton Rouge, LA. IIRC there
is also a WW II flat top in NYC.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: Poorly Secured Load?

Charlie Vlk
 

All-
Looks like the photos were taken on the CB&Q (FTs in the background of one of the photos) likely in conjunction with damage claim.  Not the band shifting causing wearing off of the paint and maybe some pressure on the end blocking.
Charlie Vlk


On Apr 10, 2020, at 1:20 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:



Poorly Secured Load?

Two 1952 photos of the same load from the Tacoma Public Library Digital Collections:

http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061coll21/id/33748/rec/109

http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061coll21/id/34113/rec/103

I was a bit surprised to see that this large storage tank load was only secured by two steel bands/rods. Even with the bottom blocking I would think a third band/rod would be needed to provide extra security should one of the other two fail.

Opinions?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: C&O 9827

Jim Betz
 

Rich,
  VERY nicely done.  Thanks for sharing.  Stay well.    - Jim Betz


Re: AFE building NP car from LV Car

william darnaby
 

Some 40 years ago at an NMRA regional convention clinic Tony Koester remarked that “there is a prototype for everything but I reserve the right to laugh”.  For some reason that has stuck with me.

 

Bill Darnaby

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Benjamin Hom
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 3:08 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io; main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] AFE building NP car from LV Car

 

Tony Thompson wrote:

"There certainly is a prototype for a lot of odd things, but hardly 'anything.' And I will repeat my own personal mantra, that it's wise to model the typical and the commonplace, and restrain your modeler's joy in modeling the weird, the rare, and the one-off. That is, of course, if you are seeking to model reality."

 

"Modeling all of the exceptions does not make an exceptional layout." - John Nehrich

 

 

Ben Hom


Re: Hooker Chemical, Tacoma

Douglas Harding
 

I have toured the SS Jeremiah O’Brien. Great history lesson about the role and importance of the Liberty Ships and a lot fun.

 

For steam era freight car interests, the O’Brien is birthed within sight of the State Belt Railroad of San Francisco. Also a must for history buffs.

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bruce Smith
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 6:30 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Hooker Chemical, Tacoma

 

Really Don? 

 

Try the S,S, Jeremiah O'Brien 😉  https://www.ssjeremiahobrien.org

 

There is one on each coast. Indeed each of these ships struggles, because they are now approaching 80 years old, and a ship build in 7 days was never designed to last that long.  Not to mention ANY ship requires significant ongoing investment (def of "boat" - "a hole into the water into which you pour money")

 

So no, no east/west bias to be seen here.

 

Regards,

Bruce

 

 


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Donald B. Valentine via groups.io <riverman_vt@...>
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 6:13 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Hooker Chemical, Tacoma

 

     What a shame to cut up the Liberty Ships. I gather there was no interest on the Left Coast to restore one 

as has been done on the East Coast with the John W. Brown out of Baltimore on which crusies are offered or 

even just tours such as on the DDE USS Slater in Albany, NY or the USS Kidd in Baton Rouge, LA. IIRC there

is also a WW II flat top in NYC.

 

Cordially, Don Valentine

 


Re: C&O 9827

Eric Hansmann
 

Nice work on  that car, Rich! Thanks for sharing.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Remiarz
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 6:57 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io; ResinFreightCarBuilders@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] C&O 9827

 

Last month I asked for information on the C&O 1930 40' automobile boxcars.  Thank you to everyone that responded.  The information provided was very helpful.  I just completed the car today. 

 

This is a F&C one-piece body kit.  I added TMW Buckeye trucks, Red Caboose 7 rung ladders, DA tackboards, DA roping rings, HiTech Details air hoses and brackets, DA coupler cut levers, Yarmouth cut lever brackets and brake levers, with Grandt Line turnbuckles and DA chain used on the brake gear.  I used TruColor TCP-219 C&O Freight Car Red paint with Speedwitch decals.  Since the car was repainted only 10 months before the date I model, a light coat of weathering was applied using Pan Pastel Raw Umber and Neutral Grey Extra Dark.

 

Sincerely,

Rich Remiarz

Vadnais Heights, MN

 


Re: Hooker Chemical, Tacoma

maynard stowe
 

Don,
There is a Liberty Ship in San Francisco and a Victory Ship---a more modern successor to the Liberty Ship --in Richmond and may be more on the coast.
Maynard Stowe


Re: C&O 9827

O Fenton Wells
 

Nicely done
Good finish on the model
Fenton

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 7:57 PM Richard Remiarz <rremiarz@...> wrote:
Last month I asked for information on the C&O 1930 40' automobile boxcars.  Thank you to everyone that responded.  The information provided was very helpful.  I just completed the car today. 

This is a F&C one-piece body kit.  I added TMW Buckeye trucks, Red Caboose 7 rung ladders, DA tackboards, DA roping rings, HiTech Details air hoses and brackets, DA coupler cut levers, Yarmouth cut lever brackets and brake levers, with Grandt Line turnbuckles and DA chain used on the brake gear.  I used TruColor TCP-219 C&O Freight Car Red paint with Speedwitch decals.  Since the car was repainted only 10 months before the date I model, a light coat of weathering was applied using Pan Pastel Raw Umber and Neutral Grey Extra Dark.

Sincerely,
Rich Remiarz
Vadnais Heights, MN



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


C&O 9827

Richard Remiarz
 

Last month I asked for information on the C&O 1930 40' automobile boxcars.  Thank you to everyone that responded.  The information provided was very helpful.  I just completed the car today. 

This is a F&C one-piece body kit.  I added TMW Buckeye trucks, Red Caboose 7 rung ladders, DA tackboards, DA roping rings, HiTech Details air hoses and brackets, DA coupler cut levers, Yarmouth cut lever brackets and brake levers, with Grandt Line turnbuckles and DA chain used on the brake gear.  I used TruColor TCP-219 C&O Freight Car Red paint with Speedwitch decals.  Since the car was repainted only 10 months before the date I model, a light coat of weathering was applied using Pan Pastel Raw Umber and Neutral Grey Extra Dark.

Sincerely,
Rich Remiarz
Vadnais Heights, MN


Re: Hooker Chemical, Tacoma

Bruce Smith
 

Really Don? 

Try the S,S, Jeremiah O'Brien 😉  https://www.ssjeremiahobrien.org

There is one on each coast. Indeed each of these ships struggles, because they are now approaching 80 years old, and a ship build in 7 days was never designed to last that long.  Not to mention ANY ship requires significant ongoing investment (def of "boat" - "a hole into the water into which you pour money")

So no, no east/west bias to be seen here.

Regards,
Bruce



From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Donald B. Valentine via groups.io <riverman_vt@...>
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 6:13 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Hooker Chemical, Tacoma
 
     What a shame to cut up the Liberty Ships. I gather there was no interest on the Left Coast to restore one 
as has been done on the East Coast with the John W. Brown out of Baltimore on which crusies are offered or 
even just tours such as on the DDE USS Slater in Albany, NY or the USS Kidd in Baton Rouge, LA. IIRC there
is also a WW II flat top in NYC.

Cordially, Don Valentine