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Re: Photos: Hooker Tank Cars

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
 

Friends,

Yesterday someone asked when the orange paint scheme was applied to Hooker tank cars. I'm not sure anyone answered. A clue is in the photo of GATX 24784 at http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061coll21/id/32704/rec/42 . The car appears to be new, and the date on the tank reads 9-53. Now this may not be one of the first cars in the orange paint, but it is a start.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆


On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 1:44 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Photos: Hooker Tank Cars

These black-and-white photos are from the Tacoma Public Library Digital Archives:

HOKX 606 & 614 Plus Others

http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061coll21/id/19920/rec/35

HOKX 609, 613 & 713 Plus GATX 36971

Also a possible Hooker car with GATX reporting marks to the left of 613.

http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061coll21/id/31917/rec/24

HOKX 711

http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061coll21/id/13399/rec/5

HOKX 2049

http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061coll21/id/27968/rec/60

GATX 24784

http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061coll21/id/32704/rec/42

http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061coll21/id/32346/rec/44

GATX 25578

Note location of reporting marks on frame instead of tank.

http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061coll21/id/5536/rec/111

Unidentified

http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061coll21/id/16060/rec/138

Use the slider above the photos to enlarge them.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

 


Re: Photos: Pennsylvania Salt Manufacturing Company Tank Cars

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi Bob and List Members,
 
Thanks Bob for these great links. I notice in the image of TELX 224 that there appears to be the tailgate of a truck. Two items of interest...
 
(1) The truck bed appears to be holding chlorine cannisters that may be similar to those used on chlorine cannister railroad cars
 
(2) There appears to be a rod or pipe between the car TELX 224 and the back of the truck – what does the rest of the group make of this?
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

From: Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 1:41 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photos: Pennsylvania Salt Manufacturing Company Tank Cars
 

Photos: Pennsylvania Salt Manufacturing Company Tank Cars

These black-and-white photos are from the Tacoma Public Library Digital Archives:

TELX 210

http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061coll21/id/11668/rec/10

TELX 224

http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061coll21/id/4899/rec/155

TELX 307

http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061coll21/id/17891/rec/50

TELX 308

http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061coll21/id/5388/rec/64

Use the slider above the photos to enlarge them.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photos: Hooker Tank Cars

Bob Chaparro
 


Photos: Pennsylvania Salt Manufacturing Company Tank Cars

Bob Chaparro
 

Photos: Pennsylvania Salt Manufacturing Company Tank Cars

These black-and-white photos are from the Tacoma Public Library Digital Archives:

TELX 210

http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061coll21/id/11668/rec/10

TELX 224

http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061coll21/id/4899/rec/155

TELX 307

http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061coll21/id/17891/rec/50

TELX 308

http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061coll21/id/5388/rec/64

Use the slider above the photos to enlarge them.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Hooker Chemical, Tacoma

Chuck Soule
 

It's not uncommon to see mothballed flattops in Tacoma Tideflats air photos from the 40s, 50s, and maybe even into the 60s.  They were escort carriers built by the shipbuilding company at the tip of the peninsula that the Hooker Plant was on.  My understanding is that they were in the process of being completed when WW2 ended, and were mothballed right there without ever having been commissioned.  I may not be exactly correct about their service histories, but they were definitely mothballed in the immediate vicinity of the Hooker plant. 

When the Hooker plant was modeled on the PSMRE layout at the Washington State History Museum, the backdrop painted behind it included not only the stockpile of salt for the plant, but also paintings of a freighter directly behind the stockpile and an escort carrier to the left.  The ships copied after art on the tops of the boxes for model ship kits for an escort carrier and a freighter from the 40s-50s era.  I just tried to find a photo on the PSMRE site to no avail, and I can't go take pictures because the museum is closed for the duration.

My ramblings are getting a bit off track for freight cars, but I hope you find the context interesting.  We just HAD to have the Hooker plant on the PSMRE layout so we could appropriately switch chemical tank cars showing the Hooker paint scheme, especially with "Return to Tacoma" on them.

Chuck Soule


Re: Hooker Chemical, Tacoma

Chuck Soule
 

It's not uncommon to see mothballed flattops in Tacoma Tideflats air photos from the 40s, 50s, and maybe even into the 60s.  They were escort carriers built by the shipbuilding company at the tip of the peninsula that the Hooker Plant was on.  My understanding is that they were in the process of being completed when WW2 ended, and were mothballed right there without ever having been commissioned.  I may not be exactly correct about their service histories, but they were definitely mothballed in the immediate vicinity of the Hooker plant. 

When the Hooker plant was modeled on the PSMRE layout at the Washington State History Museum, the backdrop painted behind it included not only the stockpile of salt for the plant, but also paintings of a freighter directly behind the stockpile and an escort carrier to the left.  The ships copied after art on the tops of the boxes for model ship kits for an escort carrier and a freighter from the 40s-50s era.  I just tried to find a photo on the PSMRE site to no avail, and I can't go take pictures because the museum is closed for the duration.

My ramblings are getting a bit off track for freight cars, but I hope you find the context interesting.  We just HAD to have the Hooker plant on the PSMRE layout so we could appropriately switch chemical tank cars showing the Hooker paint scheme, especially with "Return to Tacoma" on them.

Chuck Soule


Re: Hooker Chemical, Tacoma

David Wiggs
 

A little to the left, which would be east, is where the USN used to have three Minesweepers live.  They were tied up next to a group of warehouses and were just down (west) the tital cut from a power house next to a bridge that crossed this tital cut.
 
Davo in Orlando


Re: Hooker Chemical, Tacoma

tbarney2004
 

That would be the USS Intrepid at what would have been, I believe, Pier 86 @ W. 46th Street which is a few blocks south of the Manhattan Cruise terminal (today) which happens to sit on the Hudson River, which is incorrectly named being that it is a tidal estuary, as the tidal flow extends up to and past Albany 100 miles north.

Tim Barney - sitting about 1/4 mile from the old, long gone, O&W Kingston Branch and the Ellenville Station/Freight Depot (for some steam era content)

On 4/10/2020 7:13 PM, Donald B. Valentine via groups.io wrote:
     What a shame to cut up the Liberty Ships. I gather there was no interest on the Left Coast to restore one 
as has been done on the East Coast with the John W. Brown out of Baltimore on which crusies are offered or 
even just tours such as on the DDE USS Slater in Albany, NY or the USS Kidd in Baton Rouge, LA. IIRC there
is also a WW II flat top in NYC.

Cordially, Don Valentine



Recommendations: two Wilson & MRRX Mather RC RTR meat reefers

Andy Carlson
 

I just checked out Mather meat reefers on Ebay after my Mather post just minutes ago. There are a good number of both Red Caboose RTR and kits offered, almost all at much less expense than mine. I recommend going to ebay first. I don't mind keeping my two reefers! Stay safe, everyone.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Saturday, April 11, 2020, 9:22:32 AM PDT, Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:


Hello-
I have two Red Caboose factory assembled HO Mather meat reefers offered for sale.

RC RR-31009-5 Wilson Car Lines; WCLX 7532
RC RR-31001-5 Mather orange lease car MRRX 2684

Priced at $35 each, shipping included to the US. These are new, in never been opened packaging. I accept checks and money orders. With a small fee PayPal is accepted. Contact me off-list (Please) at <midcentury@...> for details.
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson   Ojai CA
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Offered: two Wilson & MRRX Mather RC RTR meat reefers

Andy Carlson
 

Hello-
I have two Red Caboose factory assembled HO Mather meat reefers offered for sale.

RC RR-31009-5 Wilson Car Lines; WCLX 7532
RC RR-31001-5 Mather orange lease car MRRX 2684

Priced at $35 each, shipping included to the US. These are new, in never been opened packaging. I accept checks and money orders. With a small fee PayPal is accepted. Contact me off-list (Please) at <midcentury@...> for details.
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson   Ojai CA


Re: Adding some color to the fright car roster UP #57068

O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks Michael, Stay safe during this time.
Fenton

On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 12:11 PM Michael Gross <ActorMichaelGross@...> wrote:
Lovely build, and I appreciate the "heads-up" concerning the Kadee upright brake wheel.  Love its delicacy.
--
Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: Adding some color to the fright car roster UP #57068

Michael Gross
 

Lovely build, and I appreciate the "heads-up" concerning the Kadee upright brake wheel.  Love its delicacy.
--
Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA


All Sold: InterMountain Santa Fe (SFRD) Reefers, RTR and Kits (HO)

Joseph Melhorn
 

The last five cars are sold. Thanks again to all who purchased them.

Thanks,

Joe Melhorn

Sahuarita, AZ  85629

 

 


Re: C&O 9827

James Brewer
 

Great job Rich....very nice!

Jim Brewer


Re: Adding some color to the fright car roster UP #57068

O Fenton Wells
 

I added some sheet lead in 4 places to get it's weight up.  I think I added about 3 oz but didn't put it on the scale yet.
Fenton

On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 9:43 AM Ryan Mendell <ryan.mendell@...> wrote:
Looks great Fenton.  I have one of these in my stash and a set of Teds decals.  Did you add any weights or is the car weight ok out of the box?

Ryan


On Apr 10, 2020, at 1:59 PM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

In an effort to add more color to my fleet I have revised a P2K flat car from black to the UP.  I have liked this car since I saw Bob Smaus version in MR a few years ago.  Then Ted's vol IV of Prototype Railroad Modeling highlighted these cars so off I went.  I modeled this as a 1951 repaint so no white lettering and used Ted's excellent decals.
This is my first use of the new Kadee flat car brake wheel and stem.  It is excellent and I highly recommend it.
I didn't put this on the resin builder site as it is a plastic car. Not sure where it goes, so here I am

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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: Adding some color to the fright car roster UP #57068

Ryan Mendell
 

Looks great Fenton.  I have one of these in my stash and a set of Teds decals.  Did you add any weights or is the car weight ok out of the box?

Ryan


On Apr 10, 2020, at 1:59 PM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

In an effort to add more color to my fleet I have revised a P2K flat car from black to the UP.  I have liked this car since I saw Bob Smaus version in MR a few years ago.  Then Ted's vol IV of Prototype Railroad Modeling highlighted these cars so off I went.  I modeled this as a 1951 repaint so no white lettering and used Ted's excellent decals.
This is my first use of the new Kadee flat car brake wheel and stem.  It is excellent and I highly recommend it.
I didn't put this on the resin builder site as it is a plastic car. Not sure where it goes, so here I am

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Re: Kadee brake wheel (was Adding some color to the fright car roster UP #57068)

Tim O'Connor
 

Those wheels were made for the Kadee skeleton log flats. I have a bunch of them.
They have been around for many years.

On 4/11/2020 2:53 AM, mvlandsw wrote:
Nice job on the car Fenton. Where did you get the Kadee brake wheel? I can't find it on their site. I wonder if making that part means a flatcar model is in the works.

Mark Vinski
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*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


Re: Adding some color to the fright car roster UP #57068

John Barry
 

Fenton,

That's a scary good build. Don't you just hate the spell checker? Your subject line is Freudian......

John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736

On Saturday, April 11, 2020, 09:09:21 AM EDT, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:


Thanks for the nice comments Mark and everyone 
Fenton 


On Apr 11, 2020, at 9:06 AM, Srrfan1401 <srrfan1401@...> wrote:


Mark, you will have to wait for Kadee to open back up after the virus subsided. Then call them and ask for Sam and he will sell you some. They are excellent and come in one piece, wheel and stem altogether 
Fenton 


On Apr 11, 2020, at 2:54 AM, mvlandsw <mvlandsw@...> wrote:

Nice job on the car Fenton. Where did you get the Kadee brake wheel? I can't find it on their site. I wonder if making that part means a flatcar model is in the works.

Mark Vinski


Re: Adding some color to the fright car roster UP #57068

O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks for the nice comments Mark and everyone 
Fenton 


On Apr 11, 2020, at 9:06 AM, Srrfan1401 <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Mark, you will have to wait for Kadee to open back up after the virus subsided. Then call them and ask for Sam and he will sell you some. They are excellent and come in one piece, wheel and stem altogether 
Fenton 


On Apr 11, 2020, at 2:54 AM, mvlandsw <mvlandsw@...> wrote:

Nice job on the car Fenton. Where did you get the Kadee brake wheel? I can't find it on their site. I wonder if making that part means a flatcar model is in the works.

Mark Vinski


Re: Adding some color to the fright car roster UP #57068

O Fenton Wells
 

Mark, you will have to wait for Kadee to open back up after the virus subsided. Then call them and ask for Sam and he will sell you some. They are excellent and come in one piece, wheel and stem altogether 
Fenton 


On Apr 11, 2020, at 2:54 AM, mvlandsw <mvlandsw@...> wrote:

Nice job on the car Fenton. Where did you get the Kadee brake wheel? I can't find it on their site. I wonder if making that part means a flatcar model is in the works.

Mark Vinski