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Re: Question re: upcoming Rapido USRA DS box

Douglas Harding
 

Ed, it is possible the fascia boards were added to reinforce the tops of the siding boards. Vibrations tend to pop nails. Could it be that while the bottom of siding boards popped loose because of water damage and rot, that at the same time the top of the boards popped nails because of car movement and vibration?

 

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Question re: upcoming Rapido USRA DS box

 

Bill,

Your statement about having to widen the model's roof to accept a fascia implies, to me, that that had to have been true for the prototype.  If so, it would seem to mean that the fascias were ONLY applied when new (wider) roofs were, also.

Or.  One could ask:  "Whatever would prompt someone to add a strip of wood at the top of a box car side?"


Ed

Edward Sutorik



On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 07:43 AM, Bill Welch wrote:

On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 08:36 PM, spsalso wrote:

I am not very knowledgeable about the variations on these cars.  I do think that for the price, Rapido should do the "easy-peasy" mods.  The fascia strip appears to be such a thing. 
Edward Sutorik

 To apply the facia, the roof needs to be widened to lap over it. Not sure how easy that will be w/the Rapido model. Easy to do w/the Westerfield kit.

Bill Welch


Re: Question re: upcoming Rapido USRA DS box

spsalso
 

Regarding the film of the PGE wreck:

First:  what fantastic quality--color looks near perfect, and picture quality is great

There are two GN cars in the film:  24804 (the one the crane was trying to right) and what could be 2XXX2.

Note that the wreck was being worked from both ends.  Early on, you can see a steam loco with a car equipped with a BIG winch.  They're working the CP car.

For the crane, I don't necessarily think the crane was too small for the job.  It did tip, after all, not "break".  I suspect the crane wasn't blocked adequately.  The ground looked pretty wet.  And squishy.  It appears the car might have been loaded.  There appears to be white material around the car door.  They COULD have emptied the car to make it lighter.  That would have taken a good bit of time, of course.  Judgement call.

The loaded car would have weighed about 120,000 pounds.  60 tons.  They had placed blocking under the car's drawbar, at the end farthest from the crane.  They would then appear to have been planning to lift the near end (to the crane) and swing it towards the track.  The lift would have been about 30 tons.  What's got me puzzled is that there's a cable that attaches to the blocked-up drawbar, travels up the end of the car and over to the crane boom.  I just don't get that.  NOT the crane operator's proudest moment!

Note also that the crane was righted using block and tackle.  Since I don't see a cable going over to the equipment behind the tipped crane, I do wonder if the winch at the other end of the wreck is supplying power.  Or perhaps they had a boat that could pull the cable.  It surely wasn't the four guys who had been pumping the hydraulic jack.


Ed

Edward Sutorik




On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 07:53 AM, Bruce Smith wrote:
Claus,
 
Correct. Indeed, I see no footage of the GN car being righted, but that wimpy little derrick was clearly not up to the task of lifting the car and remaining upright. It also looks like they may have been dealing with 2 different GN cars, or that they dragged the GN car clear of the cut and then rolled the derrick trying to get it back onto the rails.
 
Note that the PGE and its successor, BCRail, always had serious avalanche/rock fall problems on many of their lines.
 
Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
 
 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) <claus@...>
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 8:57 AM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Question re: upcoming Rapido USRA DS box
 
Hi List Members,
 
Colin wrote: “A video from the Pacific Great Eastern of a GN USRA being righted after a wreck.  From the mid-fifties.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdtnVk2M3YU&t=2s
 
Thanks Colin for the video link, it was fascinating to watch some of the process involved in fixing things up when a mess like that occurs.
 
It looked to me like at some point the wreck crane itself tipped over, and they had to right it again, am I interpreting this correctly?
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
 
From: Kemal Mumcu via groups.io
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 9:01 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Question re: upcoming Rapido USRA DS box
 
One thing about these Rapido cars that could be corrected is the incorrect ride height.  They ride high on the trucks.  This was the same problem with the NP cars.  I had to make a jig and sand down the excess bolster material to bring down the car to ride at the right height. 

A possible solution:  Make the cars with the correct bolster ride height and add a fitted washer to deliver the cars.  The toy train types will be happy and more discerning modelers can remove the washer to bring down the car to the right height. 

Colin Meikle

A video from the Pacific Great Eastern of a GN USRA being righted after a wreck.  From the mid-fifties.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdtnVk2M3YU&t=2s


Re: Utah Coal Route steel gons in log service

erieblt2
 

Logging continues, sometimes illegally. For example, stolen logs caused a landslide that destroyed a bridge on the former Milwaukee Main line (now a wonderful trail-with now a gap). I feel for the loggers. There is a sustainable lumber industry. It helps fund education in Washington State. Need to help those families, but there is no way to support modern mechanized lumbering. Trees can’t grow that fast. The old lumber railroads are fantastic. Be safe All Bill S.


On Apr 13, 2020, at 8:50 AM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:



Someone may have corrected you already Tony.

This is my daughter in 2011 in front of a 300+ foot tall Sitka Spruce, not very far from Forks, WA.


On 4/12/2020 2:19 PM, Tony Thompson wrote:

Tim O'Connor wrote:


They look like Lodgepole pine logs. The Lodgepole grows like a weed in the northwestern
states and forms dense stands. It's not a Douglas Fir or one of the mighty Spruce trees
from the Olympic Peninsula (that grew well over 300 feet tall) or even Ponderosa pine,
but not all lumber needs to be high quality. :-)

      Tim has (probably unintentionally) garbled his statement a little. The 300-ft. trees on the Olympic Peninsula are Douglas fir, not spruce (for record spruce trees, visit Vancouver Island). Lodgepoles 100 feet tall would be a VERY tall tree of that species. As I said, this doesn't CONTRADICT what Tim said, hopefully clarifies it.

Tony Thompson


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
<Katy largest SitkaSpruce in the HohValley OlympicNatlPark 08-16-2011.jpg>


Re: Utah Coal Route steel gons in log service

Tim O'Connor
 

Tony

Is the odor because of the sulfuric acid used in the production of kraft (brown) paper?
Or from some other chemicals, perhaps?

Tim O'Connor

On 4/12/2020 7:04 PM, espee4441 wrote:
Most likely for paper and pulp as you mention. The "Aroma of Tacoma" mainly is no longer evident due to the major cessation of the mills.

Port Townsend on the Olympic Peninsula has one too and they're on the last days of doing business if not outright closed. These mills always carry the distinctive smell and PT still has it. The MILW ran into and by this operation on its way to Port Angeles. As for logging the peninsula certain sections like the Duckabush must have been exceedingly challenging. I mtn bike the old roads and hillsides are incredibly steep.

Tony Pawley
--
*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


Re: Question re: upcoming Rapido USRA DS box

spsalso
 

Bill,

Your statement about having to widen the model's roof to accept a fascia implies, to me, that that had to have been true for the prototype.  If so, it would seem to mean that the fascias were ONLY applied when new (wider) roofs were, also.

Or.  One could ask:  "Whatever would prompt someone to add a strip of wood at the top of a box car side?"


Ed

Edward Sutorik



On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 07:43 AM, Bill Welch wrote:
On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 08:36 PM, spsalso wrote:
I am not very knowledgeable about the variations on these cars.  I do think that for the price, Rapido should do the "easy-peasy" mods.  The fascia strip appears to be such a thing. 
Edward Sutorik
 To apply the facia, the roof needs to be widened to lap over it. Not sure how easy that will be w/the Rapido model. Easy to do w/the Westerfield kit.

Bill Welch


Re: Utah Coal Route steel gons in log service

Tim O'Connor
 

When I drove down the Olympic Peninsula in 2011 we stopped in Astoria OR. There was a
large freighter (ocean vessel) being loaded with thousands of logs just about the same
size seen in the photo of the UCR gondolas. Even by the 1940's I suspect a high percentage
of the really giant stuff that was easily accessible to logging railroads had already been
harvested. Of course we didn't know then that cutting down so many would ruin the moist
cool microclimate of those coastal forests, and now they'll never grow back.

Tim O'Connor

On 4/12/2020 5:04 PM, Todd Sullivan via groups.io wrote:
What's interesting to me is that most of the logs in the log pond appear to be similar in size to the loads in these gons. Perhaps the mill was using them for lumber, but maybe for chips or pulp for paper?  And there's that interesting tall building in the background which almost looks like it is connected to the log pond operation by a conveyor.

Also a thought about the crane at the far end of the gons.  It certainly looks like it is unloading the logs into the pond (notice the man on the log load dealing with the steel strapping).  If it is self-propelled, it could simply switch each empty gon out of the way and work on the next.  This was 1946 when processes like this were not always efficient as in later years.  On a model railroad, this could add some interesting activity!

Todd Sullivan
--
*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


Re: Tamiya primer (was [RealSTMFC] Painting brass)

Craig Zeni
 

On Apr 13, 2020, at 6:01 AM, main@RealSTMFC.groups.io wrote:

6a. Re: Tamiya primer (was [RealSTMFC] Painting brass)
From: Denny Anspach <danspachmd@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 01:26:29 EDT

I have gone back to always using a light colored primer (gray or white) on brass simply because I have found -convincingly so- that the utterly flat finish offers an opportunity to see clearly, iron out, sand out, and eliminate blemishes that are so often impossible to perceive until you see them on the terminal finish coat. I do the same on resin, styrene and wood. Like others reporting this change back has been eased by Tamiya after studying the raving reports of its use coming from the military and car modelers. If it interferes with detail, it is detail that -thankfully- I do not perceive.

Bill Welch, this is all your fault. You're the one that made me start considering paints besides Scalecoat... *shakes fist*

I have to say that my experience well mirrors Dr Denny's, this after not being a primer user for years. I just didn't use it. But when I started working on F units a couple of years ago with plugging horn holes and working on smoothing the parting lines found on the nose and sides of the nose, I decided to try a primer. I'd heard a LOT of good things about the Gunze product Mr Hobby "Mr Surfacer 1500". Sprayed with their "Mr Color" thinner, it is wonderful stuff. Goes down dead smooth, cleanly and easily. And it will show the results of filling holes and such. If I didn't get the hole filled perfectly, it will show. The Mr Hobby "Mr White Putty" is so superior to any of the regular hobby putties it's not even funny. Super fine grain, easy to sand, and reportedly not prone to shrinkage. I then have been painted with, yes, some of the Mr Hobby paints and their thinner "Mr Self Leveling Thinner"...and the paint is also wonderful to spray. The thinner works wonder, makes it all very forgiving. I've also been told that the Mr Self Leveling Thinner works well with the Tru Color paint; I've not tried it myself.

There's actually not a "Mr ____" product that I've tried that I didn't like. Their Mr Dissolved Putty is a styrene filler, not a putty - think of the old trick of dissolving sprue in Testors liquid cement and using it as filler...same thing. The coarser "Mr Surfacer" product (500 and 1000) are also light filler/sandable primers.

I've also had great results with Tamiya paints, MIG paints, and the Vallejo line tho' the latter primarily as weathering. There some great products used by other modelers in other realms. Hasegawa offers some chisel tools - if you heard my clinic at Cocoa Beach you heard me just rave about those...

Craig Zeni
Cary NC


Re: Utah Coal Route steel gons in log service

Tim O'Connor
 


Someone may have corrected you already Tony.

This is my daughter in 2011 in front of a 300+ foot tall Sitka Spruce, not very far from Forks, WA.


On 4/12/2020 2:19 PM, Tony Thompson wrote:
Tim O'Connor wrote:


They look like Lodgepole pine logs. The Lodgepole grows like a weed in the northwestern
states and forms dense stands. It's not a Douglas Fir or one of the mighty Spruce trees
from the Olympic Peninsula (that grew well over 300 feet tall) or even Ponderosa pine,
but not all lumber needs to be high quality. :-)

      Tim has (probably unintentionally) garbled his statement a little. The 300-ft. trees on the Olympic Peninsula are Douglas fir, not spruce (for record spruce trees, visit Vancouver Island). Lodgepoles 100 feet tall would be a VERY tall tree of that species. As I said, this doesn't CONTRADICT what Tim said, hopefully clarifies it.

Tony Thompson


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Question re: upcoming Rapido USRA DS box

Bruce Smith
 

Claus,

Correct. Indeed, I see no footage of the GN car being righted, but that wimpy little derrick was clearly not up to the task of lifting the car and remaining upright. It also looks like they may have been dealing with 2 different GN cars, or that they dragged the GN car clear of the cut and then rolled the derrick trying to get it back onto the rails.

Note that the PGE and its successor, BCRail, always had serious avalanche/rock fall problems on many of their lines.

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) <claus@...>
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 8:57 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Question re: upcoming Rapido USRA DS box
 
Hi List Members,
 
Colin wrote: “A video from the Pacific Great Eastern of a GN USRA being righted after a wreck.  From the mid-fifties.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdtnVk2M3YU&t=2s
 
Thanks Colin for the video link, it was fascinating to watch some of the process involved in fixing things up when a mess like that occurs.
 
It looked to me like at some point the wreck crane itself tipped over, and they had to right it again, am I interpreting this correctly?
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
 
From: Kemal Mumcu via groups.io
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 9:01 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Question re: upcoming Rapido USRA DS box
 
One thing about these Rapido cars that could be corrected is the incorrect ride height.  They ride high on the trucks.  This was the same problem with the NP cars.  I had to make a jig and sand down the excess bolster material to bring down the car to ride at the right height. 

A possible solution:  Make the cars with the correct bolster ride height and add a fitted washer to deliver the cars.  The toy train types will be happy and more discerning modelers can remove the washer to bring down the car to the right height. 

Colin Meikle

A video from the Pacific Great Eastern of a GN USRA being righted after a wreck.  From the mid-fifties.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdtnVk2M3YU&t=2s


Re: Question re: upcoming Rapido USRA DS box

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Colin wrote: “A video from the Pacific Great Eastern of a GN USRA being righted after a wreck.  From the mid-fifties.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdtnVk2M3YU&t=2s
 
Thanks Colin for the video link, it was fascinating to watch some of the process involved in fixing things up when a mess like that occurs.
 
It looked to me like at some point the wreck crane itself tipped over, and they had to right it again, am I interpreting this correctly?
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
 

From: Kemal Mumcu via groups.io
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 9:01 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Question re: upcoming Rapido USRA DS box
 
One thing about these Rapido cars that could be corrected is the incorrect ride height.  They ride high on the trucks.  This was the same problem with the NP cars.  I had to make a jig and sand down the excess bolster material to bring down the car to ride at the right height. 

A possible solution:  Make the cars with the correct bolster ride height and add a fitted washer to deliver the cars.  The toy train types will be happy and more discerning modelers can remove the washer to bring down the car to the right height. 

Colin Meikle

A video from the Pacific Great Eastern of a GN USRA being righted after a wreck.  From the mid-fifties.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdtnVk2M3YU&t=2s


Re: Question re: upcoming Rapido USRA DS box

Bill Welch
 

On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 08:36 PM, spsalso wrote:
I am not very knowledgeable about the variations on these cars.  I do think that for the price, Rapido should do the "easy-peasy" mods.  The fascia strip appears to be such a thing. 
Edward Sutorik
 To apply the facia, the roof needs to be widened to lap over it. Not sure how easy that will be w/the Rapido model. Easy to do w/the Westerfield kit.

Bill Welch


Re: Photo: Poultry Car

Ray Breyer
 

I think that the change from C to X did happen right around 1926; I have photos of LPTC cars as late as 1925, and LPTX cars as early as 1928.
Still, the company operated as LPTC for 35 years, and as LPTX for nine. I'll always consider LPTC to be the proper name.

Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL



On Sunday, April 12, 2020, 03:48:44 PM CDT, Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:


Ed Sutorik wrote:

The statement by Ray Breyer:  "LPTC, please.  The X didn't come until after 1926." conflicts with my November 1926 ORER . . .My suspicion is that it was around 1926 when the "X" became required.  

      The (strong) recommendation for the "X" suffix was in about 1915. Certainly in my 1923 ORER issue there are a huge number of "…X" reporting marks. I don't know that 1926 was a notable year, but maybe someone on the list knows specifics. 

Tony Thompson




Re: Rocket Express Stock Car

Paul Doggett
 

Clark 

That’s a great looking addition to your already fine fleet of resin freight cars.
Paul Doggett.    England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 13 Apr 2020, at 14:15, Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:

Just finished the Rocket Express stock car kit. Beautiful castings, very complete kit. Everything needed except couplers for obvious reasons. Even had a length of chain for the brake rigging and formed cut levers. I mixed Scalecoat box car red and Oxide red ~50/50. Weathering is mostly colored pencils with Pan Pastels to blend. My only issue with the kit was the laser cut running boards are very fragile. I ended up replacing the laterals with other resin kit leftovers.
CW Propst

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Re: Kadee brake wheel (was Adding some color to the fright car roster UP #57068)

Lester Breuer
 

So we have to continue to use the old metal Kadee #440?

Lester Breuer


Rocket Express Stock Car

Clark Propst
 

Just finished the Rocket Express stock car kit. Beautiful castings, very complete kit. Everything needed except couplers for obvious reasons. Even had a length of chain for the brake rigging and formed cut levers. I mixed Scalecoat box car red and Oxide red ~50/50. Weathering is mostly colored pencils with Pan Pastels to blend. My only issue with the kit was the laser cut running boards are very fragile. I ended up replacing the laterals with other resin kit leftovers.
CW Propst


Re: Question re: upcoming Rapido USRA DS box

Kemal Mumcu
 

One thing about these Rapido cars that could be corrected is the incorrect ride height.  They ride high on the trucks.  This was the same problem with the NP cars.  I had to make a jig and sand down the excess bolster material to bring down the car to ride at the right height. 

A possible solution:  Make the cars with the correct bolster ride height and add a fitted washer to deliver the cars.  The toy train types will be happy and more discerning modelers can remove the washer to bring down the car to the right height. 

Colin Meikle

A video from the Pacific Great Eastern of a GN USRA being righted after a wreck.  From the mid-fifties.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdtnVk2M3YU&t=2s


Re: Tamiya primer (was [RealSTMFC] Painting brass)

Denny Anspach <danspachmd@...>
 

I have gone back to always using a light colored primer (gray or white) on brass simply because I have found -convincingly so-  that the utterly flat finish  offers an opportunity to see clearly,  iron out, sand out,  and eliminate blemishes that are so often impossible to perceive until you see them on the terminal finish coat. I do the same on resin, styrene and wood.  Like others reporting this change back has been eased by Tamiya after studying the raving reports of its use coming from the military and car modelers. If it interferes with detail, it is detail that -thankfully- I do not perceive.  

Scalecoat I sticks to well prepared brass like no other, and wears like iron.  It is expensive to use, and its long ambient air-time dry-time may  not be for those expecting to quickly handle, mask, or move on to other work on the model. i have thrown out more Scalecoat I over the years than I have used- by far, the latest just an hour ago (grainy and clumpy). Its shelf life is distinctly erratic.  Ditto with Scalecoat II, but not to the same extent.  

As has been amply reported here and elsewhere, TruColor has many reported and personally-experienced issues adhering directly to brass, resin, and styrene.  It is a fine paint and I find that the solution is to only apply it over a primer coat. Not a big deal. Most applications of model primers have been over-thick IMHO. All one needs is a light sweep that barely covers. The cost of the Tamiya primer is such that it alone offers sufficient motivation to be careful.

Denny

Denny S. Anspach, MD
Sacramento, CA 95864




Re: boxcar roof mystery

Bernd Schroeder
 

Craig,

several roads replaced the original (e.g. rectangular panel) roofs with diagonal panel roofs on their older boxcars. The NKP is one example. Maybe this is the answer to this mystery, too...

Bernd
Adelsdorf, Germany

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Am 13.04.20, 06:23 schrieb Craig Wilson <agecompanyphotog@...>:

A question from "the bunker" as I dig into the pile of long put-off projects:

I'm starting to work on a model of a specific Ann Arbor RR boxcar.  Fifty cars that were originally built by the Wabash RR circa 1948-1950 were transferred to the AA in 1955 becoming AA 250-299.  Built as WAB 88700-89599 these were 40-foot boxcars with 6-foot doors.  The question of what type of roof to use has arisen.  I have a copy of the page for these cars from the Ann Arbor RR equipment book (a drawing revised Dec. 1964).  It specifies "Std Ry Equipment Co (7R-12712)" for the roof.  Does anybody know if this is a "diagonal panel" or "rectangular panel" roof?

The Morning Sun Wabash, Nickel Plate, DT&I Color Guide has a photo of WAB 88836 that seems to show a rectangular panel roof.  And while I have collected lots of photos of the AA 250-series cars, only one shows an angle where I can make a guess as to the type of roof.  The AA car sure looks like it has a diagonal panel roof.  Since these cars came from the WAB series that shows a rectangular panel roof, shouldn't the AA cars be the same?  That is why I am hoping the Stanray designation from the equipment diagram will provide an answer.

These are cars that definitely fit into the STMFC guidelines and I figure the esteemed members of this list are as good a place as any to start looking for the answer.

I can recall a time when getting this right wasn't as high a priority to me as it is now . . .

Craig Wilson


boxcar roof mystery

Craig Wilson
 

A question from "the bunker" as I dig into the pile of long put-off projects:

I'm starting to work on a model of a specific Ann Arbor RR boxcar.  Fifty cars that were originally built by the Wabash RR circa 1948-1950 were transferred to the AA in 1955 becoming AA 250-299.  Built as WAB 88700-89599 these were 40-foot boxcars with 6-foot doors.  The question of what type of roof to use has arisen.  I have a copy of the page for these cars from the Ann Arbor RR equipment book (a drawing revised Dec. 1964).  It specifies "Std Ry Equipment Co (7R-12712)" for the roof.  Does anybody know if this is a "diagonal panel" or "rectangular panel" roof?

The Morning Sun Wabash, Nickel Plate, DT&I Color Guide has a photo of WAB 88836 that seems to show a rectangular panel roof.  And while I have collected lots of photos of the AA 250-series cars, only one shows an angle where I can make a guess as to the type of roof.  The AA car sure looks like it has a diagonal panel roof.  Since these cars came from the WAB series that shows a rectangular panel roof, shouldn't the AA cars be the same?  That is why I am hoping the Stanray designation from the equipment diagram will provide an answer.

These are cars that definitely fit into the STMFC guidelines and I figure the esteemed members of this list are as good a place as any to start looking for the answer.

I can recall a time when getting this right wasn't as high a priority to me as it is now . . .

Craig Wilson


Re: Question re: upcoming Rapido USRA DS box

spsalso
 

Randy,

Rapido does indeed release some road specific details for their locomotives.  Unfortunately, many of the details are incorrect.  The current SP&S FA-2 has at least 9 points of failure on that matter.

Athearn has been pretty good about accurate detailing, lately.  I bought a BNSF diesel that was properly detailed for an era a few years ahead of the one I wanted.  I will now modify it to the era of my choice.  And.  It was remarkably affordable.

These new models, while generic and consequently somewhat overpriced, will still be welcome.  


Ed

Edward Sutorik

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