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Re: National Archives photo - 13 March 1941

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Not DL&W.  No lines in the NY Navy Yard.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Rochon
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 1:02 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] National Archives photo - 13 March 1941

 

The attached photo, shows a freight yard (DL&W?) adjacent to the Wallabout Markets and the New York Navy Yard in NYC, dated 13 March 1941.  Several box cars are in the image including NYC 39271, C&O 5361 and CN 403863 (reweighed 5-40).  Enjoy,

 

Brian Rochon

Silver Spring, MD


Re: F&C LV box car

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Completely agree, Bill, That’s a very convincing photo . . .

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of WILLIAM PARDIE
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 2:39 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] F&C LV box car

 

Super modeling job Ed.  Looking at the photo the only clue that it is  model is the coupler trip pin.  Great weathering.  The setting is the same quality as the model.  

 

Just what I would hope to achieve.

 

Bill Pardie

 

 

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From: Edward <edb8381@...>

Date: 4/16/20 4:03 AM (GMT-10:00)

Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] F&C LV box car

 

Sad to say, I did not see any photos or any links to photos in the first message.
Here is an LV 'wrong way door' box car I built in O scale, after seeing the HO F&C kit some time ago.
It's a chance to see if this one will show up.

Ed Bommer


Re: F&C LV box car

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

Super modeling job Ed.  Looking at the photo the only clue that it is  model is the coupler trip pin.  Great weathering.  The setting is the same quality as the model.  

Just what I would hope to achieve.

Bill Pardie


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: Edward <edb8381@...>
Date: 4/16/20 4:03 AM (GMT-10:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] F&C LV box car

Sad to say, I did not see any photos or any links to photos in the first message.
Here is an LV 'wrong way door' box car I built in O scale, after seeing the HO F&C kit some time ago.
It's a chance to see if this one will show up.

Ed Bommer


Re: Photo: GN Boxcar 44653

Bruce Smith
 

Bob,

Indeed, that car is a GN plywood sheathed car from the first series (built may to June 1944), as denoted by the composite door (and 6/44 build date 😉)

The only thing that might make that photo better would be if it included the "B" end, and in color to show off that gorgeous Omaha Orange and green paint scheme!

I have 2 kits to build... a Sunshine (79.1) and a hybrid IM kit from Andy Carlson to backdate the IM kit to the 1944 cars... Now I just need one more set of those funky composite doors.

Regards,
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...>
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 12:05 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: GN Boxcar 44653
 

Photo: GN Boxcar 44653

A photo from the Tacoma Public Library Digital Collection:

http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061coll21/id/18231/rec/518

Description: "Great Northern Box Car being loaded by Sperry Flour Company at Ocean Dock, DFPA, Edith Leik. A man is moving several bags of flour inside a box car at the Sperry Flour Company Ocean Dock. Another man stands outside reviewing a list. Some of the Sperry Flour Company facilities are seen in the background."

I believe this is a plywood-sheathed boxcar.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: GN Boxcar 44653

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: GN Boxcar 44653

A photo from the Tacoma Public Library Digital Collection:

http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061coll21/id/18231/rec/518

Description: "Great Northern Box Car being loaded by Sperry Flour Company at Ocean Dock, DFPA, Edith Leik. A man is moving several bags of flour inside a box car at the Sperry Flour Company Ocean Dock. Another man stands outside reviewing a list. Some of the Sperry Flour Company facilities are seen in the background."

I believe this is a plywood-sheathed boxcar.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


National Archives photo - 13 March 1941

Brian Rochon
 

The attached photo, shows a freight yard (DL&W?) adjacent to the Wallabout Markets and the New York Navy Yard in NYC, dated 13 March 1941.  Several box cars are in the image including NYC 39271, C&O 5361 and CN 403863 (reweighed 5-40).  Enjoy,

 

Brian Rochon

Silver Spring, MD


Re: MDC heavy duty trucks

Bob Chaparro
 

Those HD trucks were included in the earlier ore cars but more recent kits and R-T-R versions feature their regular freight car trucks.
I've had good luck finding the earlier versions at swap meets.
I plan to upgrade some helium cars with these trucks, knowing full well right after I've converted the last car someone will produce and market a much better car.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Rebuilt USRA Double Sheathed Boxcars

Benjamin Hom
 

Don Valentine asked: 
"As most of us are aware, many railroads began rebuilding their USRA double sheathed box cars in the mid to late 1930 with most using "kits" of new sides and sometimes other parts as well supplied by companies such as Youngstown Steel. Some of these kits used eight panel sides and some used ten panel sides. So my first question is why was there a difference in the number of panels per side and what determined which style to use?"


Individual railroad mechanical departments' preferences and vendor choice.

"Could it be that a car type other than the USRA double sheathed cars was also rebuilt in this period and differed in construction enough to require a different number of panels?"

Not really.  Rebuilt single-sheathed and sectional sheathed cars also exhibited variations in number of panels used.


"Lastly, has anyone ever put together a list of those roads that used such its to rebuild cars that would indicate when such rebuilding occurred, which type of car was rebuilt and what number of panels the new sides used were comprised of?  It would seem this would be useful information for reference if there is any such guide."

I did one almost 15 years ago.  It could use an update as we've learned a lot since then, but it's further down on my list of things to do.  It's in the group files section here:


Ben Hom



 


Re: Rebuilt USRA Double Sheathed Boxcars

Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

    Please excuse what may be an off-the-wall question for many but may shed some light on
things for others. As most of us are aware, many railroads began rebuilding their USRA double 
sheathed box cars in the mid to late 1930 with most using "kits" of new sides and sometimes
other parts as well supplied by companies such as Youngstown Steel. Some of theses kits
used eight panel sides and some used ten panel sides. So my first question is why was there
a difference in the number of panels per side and what determined which style to use? Could
it be that a car type other than the USRA double sheathed cars was also rebuilt in this period 
and differed in construction enough to require a different number of panels? Lastly, has anyone
ever put together a list of those roads that used such its to rebuild cars that would indicate when
such rebuilding occurred, which type of car was rebuilt and what number of panels the new sides
used were comprised of?  It would seem this would be useful information for reference if there is
any such guide.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: FARMALL TRACTOR DECALS

Bob Weston
 

Full size decals available on the tractor restoration market, surely some enterprising individual could make scale decals from these.Written as I sit on my McCormick Deering Farmall A.
"If it ain't red leave it in the shed!"


Re: MDC heavy duty trucks

Benjamin Hom
 

Don Valentine wrote:
"Three bay MDC hoppers for the B&LE sounds about right to me, Richard.  Some of them were purchased 2nd hand by the B&M and they all had trucks with double clasp brakes. Can't help but wonder who else  have used such cars to warrant the expense of tooling
for those trucks for what appears to be a very limited usage."

As noted earlier, the trucks in question were tooled by MDC for their SP ore gons.  The MDC offset triple is a pretty terrible model of an early offset triple with stepped taper.  It has an odd fishbelly side sill and hoppers that are too shallow in profile, leading to a pretty goofy appearance.  I hate the MDC triple hoppers and the fact that they keep popping up on the market with a passion - in a just world, the tooling would have blown up years ago.  Instead, Athearn chose to put lipstick on a pig by upgrading these models with separate grabs.

As for the B&LE 90-ton offset triples, there has been an accurate model available for these for decades - the Ulrich offset triple.


Ben Hom



Re: MDC heavy duty trucks

Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

   Three bay MDC hoppers for the B&LE sounds about right to me, Richard. Some of them
were purchased 2nd hand by the B&M and they all had trucks with double clasp brakes.
Can't help but wonder who else  have used such cars to warrant the expense of tooling
for those trucks for what appears to be a very limited usage.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: F&C LV box car

Edward
 

Sad to say, I did not see any photos or any links to photos in the first message.
Here is an LV 'wrong way door' box car I built in O scale, after seeing the HO F&C kit some time ago.
It's a chance to see if this one will show up.

Ed Bommer


Re: FARMALL TRACTOR DECALS

Clark Propst
 

I too partook in the insanity of building these tractors too. Here's a photo of them when new 25 + yrs ago. The flat car deck was removable so a plain deck could be a replacement. Load in/empty out sort of thing. Now the tractors ride on a different flat car with the wheel chocks glued to the deck. I added wire to the rear wheels that poke into the stake pockets to hold the tractors on. Tractor orientation on the car is located on the bottom of the tractor. I have several Athearn RTR JD tractors I crazily made chocks and glued to the wheels. The reason for both these methods is to be able to remove partial loads at different towns on my branch. I can provide more photos of the different arrangements.
The irony was that as soon as I finished the tractors and started therapy Life Like came out with their RTR version and Oddballs did decals...Also a friend is building them as we type/read for another guy. He calls to ask questions and I just laugh  ;  ))
CW Propst.


Boxcar Interior Door Color

rmink
 

I'm working on an interior for a ribside boxcar and I'm wondering is someone can tell me if the inside of the doors were painted or bare metal?  I have not been able to find any pictures in my collection of ribside pictures that show this.

Thanks for your help.

Regards,

Rick

Rick Mink
Burleson, TX


Re: FARMALL TRACTOR DECALS

rmink
 

If I recall correctly the decals were included in the tractor kit Martin offered.  Building these tested my sanity too.  There are over 50 parts in each tractor!  I added a few things like MV lenses and pins in several places to strengthen some of the joints.  I'm pleased with the results though.  I would like to find a set of the oddball tractor decals as I have a load of the Life Like tractors I want to finish.

Regards,

Rick

Rick Mink
Burleson, TX


Re: F&C LV box car

Clark Propst
 

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 03:19 PM, Rob & Bev Manley wrote:
May I forward this to PanPastel for publishing?
Rob Manley
That's a humbling request coming from you Rob. Sure you can. Would you rather wait till the couplers/ cut levers are installed and the car is on the layout?
CW Propst


Re: FARMALL TRACTOR DECALS

ron christensen
 

I have a question on seat color. As I remember the Formal 300 we had, had a plastic like cover that was silver in color.
It was our first tractor with any kind of seat covering. before that the seats were metal painted the same as the tractor.
Ron Christensen


Re: MDC heavy duty trucks

spsalso
 

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 08:50 PM, Tony Thompson wrote:
The SP ore cars.
Tony Thompson 

 

On Apr 15, 2020, at 6:55 PM, Todd Sullivan via groups.io <sullivant41@...> wrote:

Does anyone remember what freight car - MDC or Athearn - they went under?  My memory banks failed me on this one.

Todd Sullivan.


Re: MDC heavy duty trucks

Tony Thompson
 

The SP ore cars.
Tony Thompson 


On Apr 15, 2020, at 6:55 PM, Todd Sullivan via groups.io <sullivant41@...> wrote:

Does anyone remember what freight car - MDC or Athearn - they went under?  My memory banks failed me on this one.

Todd Sullivan.

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