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Re: Boxcar Interior Door Color

william darnaby
 

A looong time ago, when I was still working, EMD used old box cars as mobile warehouses and these kind of floated around the plant as needed.  I do not remember the  exterior reporting marks…some secondhand outfit or other…but inside the doors they were marked in the L&N 96xxx series IIRC.  I did not have the freight knowledge I have now but I now recognize them as double sheathed rebuilds.  They caught my attention because I thought them neat and unusual.  I was very pleased when Sunshine offered them many years later.

 

Bill Darnaby

 

 


Re: Boxcar Interior Door Color

John Larkin
 

I'm assuming the car is now history....



On Friday, April 17, 2020, 1:02:03 PM CDT, Craig Wilson <agecompanyphotog@...> wrote:



Good point . . . and I've found this very useful when determining the heritage of a "repurposed" car.  Attached photo shows what was probably the last surviving Ann Arbor 74000-series boxcar.  It was being used as a storage shed in the city DPW yard in Cadillac Michigan.  The original car number was stenciled on the inside above the door opening.

STMFC trivia:  this car was THE prototype for the Speedwitch resin kit.  Ted Culotta borrowed the drawings that Arnt Gerritsen made from our measurements and photos taken that day.

Craig Wilson

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Re: National Archives photo - 13 March 1941

George Courtney
 

A quick glance and that second boxcar over from the Canadian National appeared for an instant to be a G &D boxcar. Of course on closer look it's C&O.

George Courtney


Re: Boxcar Interior Door Color

Tony Thompson
 

Schuyler Larrabee  wrote:

. . . but we need to speak to you about those trucks and the markings on the air reservoirs . . .

    I only do the reservoir lettering when the reservoir is pretty visible, and not always even then -- on the foundation that prototype photos usually show reservoirs VERY dirty and all but impossible to discern lettering.

Tony Thompson




Re: Boxcar Interior Door Color

Schuyler Larrabee
 

You’re partly off the hook, Todd.  Most resin kits don’t end up with operating doors so no interior decals required, but we need to speak to you about those trucks and the markings on the air reservoirs . . .

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Todd Sullivan via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 2:04 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Boxcar Interior Door Color

 

Great information!! 

However, I don't think I'm going to start decalling the reporting marks on the inside of my model boxcars!  I don't decal the trucks and underframe and insides of doors, either!

Todd (there are limits!) Sullivan. 


Re: FARMALL TRACTOR DECALS

Nelson Moyer
 

With all this talk of tractor loads, I'm wondering if there were regional followings for either Farmall red or John Deere green. I remember seeing mostly red in Indiana in the 1940 and 1950 on visits to the grandparent's farm. With plants in Moline and Waterloo, would John Deere be more prevalent in Iowa than Farmall? More specifically, could I expect more flat car loads of green than red arriving on an Eastern Iowa branch line?


Re: FARMALL TRACTOR loads

Bob Webber
 


Re: F&C LV box car

Rob & Bev Manley
 



Rob Manley
"Better modeling through personal embarrassment"


On Tuesday, April 14, 2020, 05:29:23 PM CDT, Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:


bill woelfel
2:09pm   #171723  
Car knocker will bad order that car, no couplers!  

The car in not in it's natural habitat. This car had a Duryea underframe. I'm waiting for an order of Kadee 197s. Those are the ones with the narrow boxes because the boxes will stick out a ways passed the ends. I'll have a photo of the car on the layout when the couplers arrive.

Thanks!!
CW Propst


Re: F&C LV box car

Rob & Bev Manley
 

Clark,
Give it your best. couplers, lift bars and all. I got the virus reduction in force from the auto parts store. SO it looks like PanPastel Blog Guy is my new occupation. That and weathering for money at the local Trains and Sub sandwich store. The owner is former UP and he and several customers are Rock Island modelers. 

Rob Manley
"Better modeling through personal embarrassment"


On Thursday, April 16, 2020, 01:51:47 PM CDT, Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:


Completely agree, Bill, That’s a very convincing photo . . .

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of WILLIAM PARDIE
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 2:39 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] F&C LV box car

 

Super modeling job Ed.  Looking at the photo the only clue that it is  model is the coupler trip pin.  Great weathering.  The setting is the same quality as the model.  

 

Just what I would hope to achieve.

 

Bill Pardie

 

 

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

 

 

-------- Original message --------

From: Edward <edb8381@...>

Date: 4/16/20 4:03 AM (GMT-10:00)

Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] F&C LV box car

 

Sad to say, I did not see any photos or any links to photos in the first message.
Here is an LV 'wrong way door' box car I built in O scale, after seeing the HO F&C kit some time ago.
It's a chance to see if this one will show up.

Ed Bommer


Re: FARMALL TRACTOR DECALS

Steve SANDIFER
 

Silver. Just google Farmall 300 and there are lots of photos.

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of ron christensen via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 8:12 AM
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I have a question on seat color. As I remember the Formal 300 we had, had a plastic like cover that was silver in color.
It was our first tractor with any kind of seat covering. before that the seats were metal painted the same as the tractor.
Ron Christensen


Re: Boxcar Interior Door Color

Todd Sullivan
 

Great information!! 

However, I don't think I'm going to start decalling the reporting marks on the inside of my model boxcars!  I don't decal the trucks and underframe and insides of doors, either!

Todd (there are limits!) Sullivan. 


Re: Boxcar Interior Door Color

Craig Wilson
 


Good point . . . and I've found this very useful when determining the heritage of a "repurposed" car.  Attached photo shows what was probably the last surviving Ann Arbor 74000-series boxcar.  It was being used as a storage shed in the city DPW yard in Cadillac Michigan.  The original car number was stenciled on the inside above the door opening.

STMFC trivia:  this car was THE prototype for the Speedwitch resin kit.  Ted Culotta borrowed the drawings that Arnt Gerritsen made from our measurements and photos taken that day.

Craig Wilson


Re: HO Scale Grab Irons

Bruce Smith
 

Bob,

Given that the prototype RR-27 had simple grab irons, your best bet is to use wire grabs as has been suggested. If the C&BT kits do not include the attachment bolts, simply drill a hole just above the grab and add a nbw casting.

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...>
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 11:59 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] HO Scale Grab Irons
 
Yes, I should have included that information.
I thought I would subject myself to some frustration by building a few C&BT Shops HO scale Santa Fe reefers.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Greg Martin

Bruce Smith
 

Armand,

The news from Facebook is that Greg is making slow progress in the right direction. As with many severe CoV patients, it seems like 2 steps forward, 1.9 steps back. I believe he is still intubated although that might change today. His body has taken a lot of abuse and his recovery will be long and slow.

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, Al


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Armand Premo <arm.p.prem@...>
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 12:29 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io <RealSTMFC@groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Greg Martin
 
Any news regarding Greg ? Armand Premo


Tractor loads

O Fenton Wells
 

Well here are a few shots that I took in September of 1963.  I was stationed in Charleston SC and my wife was living in Conway in an apartment at her Grandmothers house.  I was home on weekend liberty and was taking photos of the local RR scene.  Hindsight being what it is can you believe these are the photos I got.  Where was my head? I didn't know then (age 20) that I'd be a prototype modeler someday).  So I missed the cool shots of the IC flat being unloaded at the depot.  My bad but here are a few of what I did get.
Fenton


Greg Martin

Armand Premo
 

Any news regarding Greg ? Armand Premo


Re: FARMALL TRACTOR loads

Patrick Wade
 

Also note the curved platform/dock construction. First time I have noticed a dock with the decking lumber running lengthwise. An interesting item to model.

Pat Wade
Santa Barbara, CA


On Apr 17, 2020, at 9:43 AM, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...> wrote:


Matt, 

Great photo. Thanks. Did everyone notice the position of the seats? Will you all be tearing apart your models to remount the seats per this photo?  😢

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 11:44 AM Matt Smith <flyn96@...> wrote:
Here shot on the delivery end. Bloomington Il, Alton Depot. 8/7/1944 Illinois Digital Archives, Pantagraph Collection.


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Matt Smith
Bloomington, IL

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Re: HO Scale Grab Irons

Bob Chaparro
 

Yes, I should have included that information.
I thought I would subject myself to some frustration by building a few C&BT Shops HO scale Santa Fe reefers.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Boxcar Interior Door Color

David
 

Here's a UP car with the marks and number stenciled high on the left side of the door opening:
https://imagebase.lib.vt.edu/image_viewer.php?q=ns493

N&W car with the marks and number stenciled high on the right side:
https://imagebase.lib.vt.edu/image_viewer.php?q=ns2888

N&W car with the marks and number on the (Superior) door:
https://imagebase.lib.vt.edu/image_viewer.php?q=ns2912

David Thompson


Re: FARMALL TRACTOR loads

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Don’t forget to look at the STEAM ERA FREIGHT CARS in the background.  I don’t recall seeing an ALTON car very often.  First fully shown car to the left.  Any commentary about that car from the learned among us?

 

WRT the seats being tipped backwards . . . protecting the cushioned side from rain?  Not very effective if so but better than letting the depressed seats fill with water . . .

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 12:43 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] FARMALL TRACTOR loads

 

Matt, 

 

Great photo. Thanks. Did everyone notice the position of the seats? Will you all be tearing apart your models to remount the seats per this photo?  😢

 

Yours Aye,

 

 

Garth Groff  🦆

 

On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 11:44 AM Matt Smith <flyn96@...> wrote:

Here shot on the delivery end. Bloomington Il, Alton Depot. 8/7/1944 Illinois Digital Archives, Pantagraph Collection.


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Matt Smith
Bloomington, IL

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