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Re: Photo: CIM Boxcar 8183

Dave Strahlendorf
 

Didn't mainline Models do this car , back in the 60s? My Dad built one.

Dave Strahlendorf
Re: U.S. Navy San Diego Boxcar

Dennis Storzek
 

On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 06:45 AM, Guy Wilber wrote:
Note that his car is not equipped with an "AB" Brake system though it does have a train air line and a handbrake.   
 
It appears to have a full compliment of lever guides... I'd hazard a guess they wanted KC brake equipment, for reduced parts inventory for these captive cars, and decided to equip them in-house, using brake equipment salvaged from decommissioned cars.

Dennis Storzek
Re: Photo: CIM Boxcar 8183

Dennis Storzek
 

That car has all the spotting features of a Mather car.

Dennis Storzek
Photo: CIM Boxcar 8183

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: CIM Boxcar 8183

A fair quality photo from Richard Leonard’s Rail Archive:

https://www.railarchive.net/cimbook/page-m36.htm

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA
Re: U.S. Navy San Diego Boxcar

Ken Adams
 

US Navy wood box car ex-Port Chicago Military Sea Terminal at the Western Railroad Museum in Rio Vista CA.


I have modeled the other car the WRM received using an Accurail 36 ex D&RGW car and Clover House dry transfer set:



--
Ken Adams
Re: The last of my stash

Schleigh Mike
 

Hi Clark!

I like your well-worn B&M 71900 model.  I thought you might like to know that that prototype number was in B&M records reported scrapped on December 19,1955.

Thanks for sharing----Mike Schleigh in ever-turning-green Grove City, Penna.

On Sunday, April 19, 2020, 11:32:10 PM EDT, Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:


Well, not really. I've got a IM 37 mod that decorated for Erie. I was going to make a CNW PS1 out of it, but don't know when I'll ever get to a swap meet to pickup a cheap donor car for the ends. This car is what I call the 'Canadian' version it has the short top rib on the ends (Like the Erie 82000 series it's numbered for) and 8 rung ladderrs with steps attached. Hope to have it built tomorrow. Now I just learned I won about kit off eBay. Got to stop looking there...
Anyways...Here were my last two resin cars I finished up today. Naturally there's a story for each. The SC&F three compartment tank car is very appealing. The end of the box said NATX so I thought it would be generic. Wrong the decals were for a car leased to DuPont. I have no use for a DuPont car. I traded the kit decals for a set of old Champ NATX decals. The logo in that set was so oversized it wouldn't work on this mode. Maybe an O scale one? Picked a number other than the one for the DuPont car.
The F&C B&M XM1 is their early version with the as built doors and K style brakes I won off eBay last week. I wanted the car to look like it was do for rehab.
CW propst

Re: Dangerous Placard - What's So Dangerous?

Bob Chaparro
 

I've got to get a better monitor...not so clear on my screen.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA
Re: U.S. Navy San Diego Boxcar

Tim O'Connor
 


Flat plate ends and 6 1/2 panels on each side of the door? That is one UNUSUAL car !
I've never seen anything like it before.



On 4/19/2020 5:50 PM, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford wrote:
Andy,

Are you thinking of something like this? Shenandoah Valley MW boxcar, still in service out of Staunton, Virginia.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 2:27 PM Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:
Folks-
There are about three of these cars preserved at Southern California's Orange Empire Trolley Museum. Still in Navy grey colors.

About 12 years ago Dan Smith and I saw some Navy 40' box cars out near Inyokern (Not too far from Ridgecrest) which had characteristics of both X29 and '37 AAR designs. I have never seen anything like this before and none since.
-Andy

On Sunday, April 19, 2020, 10:51:06 AM PDT, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
Re: blushing and fading (was Tamiya Flat Clear TS-80 spray can)

Tim O'Connor
 


When you KNOW about the blushing effect it's possible to use it to great advantage!

Also, Floquil paint will usually blush with alcohol as well, without Dullcote. And
you can spray other flats over that, that do not eliminate the blush.

Happy weathering and fading! :-)


On 4/15/2020 8:54 PM, Mark Rossiter wrote:

I found out the hard way what apparently many other modelers already knew – using an alcohol/India ink solution over a freight car (or structure) previously sprayed with Dullcoat  would cause a reaction with the talc powder suspended in the Dullcoat which would result in the chalking/blushing mentioned.  I thought I had ruined a model I spent months on until it was pointed out that another coat of Dullcoat or Glosscoat would eliminate the problem.  Thankfully it was true.

 

Mark Rossiter


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
Re: U.S. Navy San Diego Boxcar

Guy Wilber
 

From: Bob Chaparro: 

"U.S. Navy San Diego Boxcar
From the John W. Barriger III National Railroad Library Collection:"


Note that his car is not equipped with an "AB" Brake system though it does have a train air line and a handbrake.   

Guy Wilber
Reno, Nevada  

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Re: The last of my stash

Chuck Cover
 

Clark/Group,

 

The tank car NATX 3406 has the walkway only on one side.  Is this specific to this prototype or this particular car?  Thanks

 

Chuck Cover

Santa Fe, NM
Re: The last of my stash

gtws00
 

Nicely done Clark!
George Toman
Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Flat Car Load

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Thanks, Garth!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 5:42 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Flat Car Load

 

Elden,

 

The Southern had some special flat cars with a sort of table that was rotated up at an angle using hydraulic pistons. Like your G26S, these were used for pre-assembled turnouts, but I suppose they could have been used for a special paid shipment at need. I have a photo or two of them, but they were moving at speed and are not very sharp. I'm pretty sure they were also beyond our period of interest.

 

Yours Aye,

 

 

Garth Groff  🦆

 

On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 3:43 PM Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:

Hudson;

 

Yes.  This is another diagonal loader on the PRR, this one a MW version, the PRR G26S, converted from a standard G26.  The G26 was a 65-footer, so it was specifically converted to accommodate a big turnout.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hudson Leighton
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 3:15 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Flat Car Load

 

This is also how the RRs ship prefabbed switches.

-Hudson

Virtual RPM

Eric Hansmann
 

Here's a virtual RPM to start your week. The modeling focuses on the Pre-Depression railroad era.


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN
Re: The last of my stash

Todd Sullivan
 

Ayuh, that B&M car looks wicked old - needs a rehab. 

Nice work on both cars!

Todd Sullivan
The last of my stash

Clark Propst
 

Well, not really. I've got a IM 37 mod that decorated for Erie. I was going to make a CNW PS1 out of it, but don't know when I'll ever get to a swap meet to pickup a cheap donor car for the ends. This car is what I call the 'Canadian' version it has the short top rib on the ends (Like the Erie 82000 series it's numbered for) and 8 rung ladderrs with steps attached. Hope to have it built tomorrow. Now I just learned I won about kit off eBay. Got to stop looking there...
Anyways...Here were my last two resin cars I finished up today. Naturally there's a story for each. The SC&F three compartment tank car is very appealing. The end of the box said NATX so I thought it would be generic. Wrong the decals were for a car leased to DuPont. I have no use for a DuPont car. I traded the kit decals for a set of old Champ NATX decals. The logo in that set was so oversized it wouldn't work on this mode. Maybe an O scale one? Picked a number other than the one for the DuPont car.
The F&C B&M XM1 is their early version with the as built doors and K style brakes I won off eBay last week. I wanted the car to look like it was do for rehab.
CW propst
Wabash 10 panel steel gondola

Andy Carlson
 

I have but a single picture of a large class (over 1300 in 1953) of 40' steel gondolas rostered by the Wabash RR.

The picture credits list this scene at a 1954 PRR wreck.

I am hoping that someone on this list can inform me as to what year were these solid floor gondolas were built.

As always,
Thanks in advance.
-Andy Carlson    Ojai CA
Re: Swift 3300

Steve and Barb Hile
 

This one arrived only 5 hours after it was sent.  But I have yet to receive my own reply.
 
Please don't discuss this issue on the list, as I don't like jailhouse food, but I have contacted Earthlink, which seems to be the source of much of my difficulty.
 
Steve


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of vapeurchapelon
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 3:27 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Swift 3300

Hello Steve,
 
I am in a similar situation from time to time, as it was the case with exactly that Email. I got it yesterday. Please have a look at the exact date: -it has been sent FIFTEEN DAYS ago! But I got it yesterday...
 
Best regards
 
Johannes
Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1953
 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 19. April 2020 um 22:22 Uhr
Von: "Steve and Barb Hile" <shile@...>
An: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [RealSTMFC] Swift 3300
I am currently getting my groups.io emails with a delay of 12 or more hours.  This one wasn't received here until 3:04 AM today.
 
By 1950 in the ORER, the 3300 series reefers extend from 3300 - 5199 with 1602 cars, in total.  But known photos show that they were not all alike in appearance.  There were more than a few 4 hinge doors in this range and some had inset by tabbed side sills.  Many looked like Sunshine resin kit 24.x, if you can find one.
 
Steve Hile
 
 
 
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of nyc3001 .
Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2020 4:38 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Swift 3300
 
 
In light of the recent discussion about the Swift 2500 series reefer that will be released by Rapido, I was wondering if anyone had ever kitbashed or produced a 3300-series reefer. This series seems to comprise the most-numerous wood Swift reefer. 

Re: U.S. Navy San Diego Boxcar

Dan Smith
 

Garth,

These are the cars ( Shenandoah Valley MW boxcar ) that were out in Inyokern. 3 of them.
I took quite a few slides and prints of them but would need to dig them out and scan them. One had burned with someone inside.

I have the Miner handbrake and gear from one in my collection out back. Andy was most helpful telling me how to get it off
sitting in the front seat of my truck with the heater on.

There was also an SP A-50-6 50' wood car in the yard, inside had been converted to an office.

Forgot the gentleman's name, have it in my notes with the photos, but his wife had fresh made cookies and milk for us after I got the handbrake off.

Dan Smith
Re: U.S. Navy San Diego Boxcar

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Andy,

Definitely military, but I'm not sure which branch. I seem to remember Richard Hendrickson coming up with a builder's photo of this class, and it was Army. But it may have been another car. I think we discussed this back on the old usenet group.

 Around 2000 when Shenandoah Valley RR's operating lease by the Buckingham Branch RR ended, they re-equipped with military surplus equipment. They got ex-Army RS4TC 87001, a 50' flat car and the boxcar. For a bit this was their rolling stock, but the little diesel apparently wasn't up to the job. Not much later the SVRR was leased by the Durban & Greenbrier Valley, which brought in larger locomotives (including an RS-11 which has been under restoration for years and years). The RS4TC is still there, and supposedly active, but I've never seen it run. It seems to move around their tiny yard in Staunton, probably because it's in the way of something else.

Curiously, about the same time the Buckingham Branch got an RS4TC of their own, which also never seems to operate. They also received a couple of 40' PS-1, probably ex-Navy, for their MW train.

It is neat to have a couple of interesting shortlines in my area. CSX and NS are total yawns now.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆


On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 6:04 PM Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:
Yes, that is what I remember. Is the car pictured a former Navy car? Did many former Navy cars go into private RR's revenue use?
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Andy,

Are you thinking of something like this? Shenandoah Valley MW boxcar, still in service out of Staunton, Virginia.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 2:27 PM Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:
Folks-
There are about three of these cars preserved at Southern California's Orange Empire Trolley Museum. Still in Navy grey colors.

About 12 years ago Dan Smith and I saw some Navy 40' box cars out near Inyokern (Not too far from Ridgecrest) which had characteristics of both X29 and '37 AAR designs. I have never seen anything like this before and none since.
-Andy

On Sunday, April 19, 2020, 10:51:06 AM PDT, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

U.S. Navy San Diego Boxcar
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