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Re: Photo: CIM Boxcar 8183

Mont Switzer
 

Yellow boxcars:  Muncie and Western RR (MWR) had a couple of hundred Mather boxcars painted yellow and THE BALL LINE slogan on the sides, Ball canning jar on the doors.  Around 1958 they went to cars similar to USRA rebuilds, some with 8 panel steel sides, some with 10 panels.  These cars were painted yellow also, but they avoided painting the canning jar on the corrugated doors.

 

MWR cars ran all over the country delivering canning jars to distributors.  They are well photographed because of their color.

 

Mont   

 

Montford L. Switzer

President

Switzer Tank Lines, Inc.

Fall Creek Leasing, LLC.

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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Donald B. Valentine via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 7:56 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: CIM Boxcar 8183

 

   But I think Dave may be correct as well,Bill.I seem to remember a Mainline Models kit for the C&IM car 

only it was a model of a 40 ft. car and not very acceptable as an accurate Mather car. But you are correct,

of course, in that they were yellow and they had a diamond herald on their doors. The C&IM cars are the 

only freight cars I can recall that were yellow except the MKT and TH&B cars.

 

My best, Don Valentine


Re: Another quiz

Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

 Right on Bruce and Cal Scale it is. Unfortunately these are cast by the lot plastic, 
instead of lost wax, process and I'm told the mold in which the platic parts were 
molded has long since worn out with no plans at Bowser to replace it. I boought
100 of them from Bowser when the first took over the Cal-Scale line but have 
long since run out of them myself.

My best, Don Valentine


Re: Photo: CIM Boxcar 8183

Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

   But I think Dave may be correct as well,Bill.I seem to remember a Mainline Models kit for the C&IM car 
only it was a model of a 40 ft. car and not very acceptable as an accurate Mather car. But you are correct,
of course, in that they were yellow and they had a diamond herald on their doors. The C&IM cars are the 
only freight cars I can recall that were yellow except the MKT and TH&B cars.

My best, Don Valentine


Re: Another quiz

O Fenton Wells
 

Looks like passenger car brake stuff
Fenton 


On Apr 20, 2020, at 11:38 PM, Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:



Thank you, Bruce!

 

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Smith
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 11:30 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Another quiz

 

Passenger car UC brake cylinder, UC valve and levers. Cal Scale?

 

Regards,

Bruce 

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL

 


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee@...>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 10:08 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io <RealSTMFC@groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Another quiz

 

As I reorganize (who am I kidding, organize for the first time) the hundreds of parts I’ve accumulated since about 1977, I find some things I just don’t recognize.

 

I mean, I recognize that the part in the attachment is brake gear, but I don’t recognize the maker or specifically what these parts are for.  The two levers are cast in one piece, with a short distance between them, which makes me think they are intended for, perhaps, a tender?  Or are these passenger car parts?

 

Pretty nice detail to them, but what are they for??  For some reason, I have a half-dozen of these.

 

Schuyler


Re: Another quiz

Allan Smith
 

Cal Scale AB-324 Exp Reefer detail set


Al Smith
Sonora CA

On Monday, April 20, 2020, 08:38:06 PM PDT, Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:


Thank you, Bruce!

 

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Smith
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 11:30 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Another quiz

 

Passenger car UC brake cylinder, UC valve and levers. Cal Scale?

 

Regards,

Bruce 

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL

 


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee@...>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 10:08 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io <RealSTMFC@groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Another quiz

 

As I reorganize (who am I kidding, organize for the first time) the hundreds of parts I’ve accumulated since about 1977, I find some things I just don’t recognize.

 

I mean, I recognize that the part in the attachment is brake gear, but I don’t recognize the maker or specifically what these parts are for.  The two levers are cast in one piece, with a short distance between them, which makes me think they are intended for, perhaps, a tender?  Or are these passenger car parts?

 

Pretty nice detail to them, but what are they for??  For some reason, I have a half-dozen of these.

 

Schuyler


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Re: Another quiz

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Thank you, Bruce!

 

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Smith
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 11:30 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Another quiz

 

Passenger car UC brake cylinder, UC valve and levers. Cal Scale?

 

Regards,

Bruce 

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL

 


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee@...>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 10:08 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io <RealSTMFC@groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Another quiz

 

As I reorganize (who am I kidding, organize for the first time) the hundreds of parts I’ve accumulated since about 1977, I find some things I just don’t recognize.

 

I mean, I recognize that the part in the attachment is brake gear, but I don’t recognize the maker or specifically what these parts are for.  The two levers are cast in one piece, with a short distance between them, which makes me think they are intended for, perhaps, a tender?  Or are these passenger car parts?

 

Pretty nice detail to them, but what are they for??  For some reason, I have a half-dozen of these.

 

Schuyler


Re: Another quiz

Bruce Smith
 

Passenger car UC brake cylinder, UC valve and levers. Cal Scale?

Regards,
Bruce 
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee@...>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 10:08 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io <RealSTMFC@groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Another quiz
 

As I reorganize (who am I kidding, organize for the first time) the hundreds of parts I’ve accumulated since about 1977, I find some things I just don’t recognize.

 

I mean, I recognize that the part in the attachment is brake gear, but I don’t recognize the maker or specifically what these parts are for.  The two levers are cast in one piece, with a short distance between them, which makes me think they are intended for, perhaps, a tender?  Or are these passenger car parts?

 

Pretty nice detail to them, but what are they for??  For some reason, I have a half-dozen of these.

 

Schuyler


Another quiz

Schuyler Larrabee
 

As I reorganize (who am I kidding, organize for the first time) the hundreds of parts I’ve accumulated since about 1977, I find some things I just don’t recognize.

 

I mean, I recognize that the part in the attachment is brake gear, but I don’t recognize the maker or specifically what these parts are for.  The two levers are cast in one piece, with a short distance between them, which makes me think they are intended for, perhaps, a tender?  Or are these passenger car parts?

 

Pretty nice detail to them, but what are they for??  For some reason, I have a half-dozen of these.

 

Schuyler


Re: Tamiya putty thinner

Scott H. Haycock
 

If you are referring to the white putty, it says on the tube it can be diluted with Tamiya Lacquer Thinner. So I would think any lacquer thinner should work.

Scott Haycock
Modeling Tarheel country in the Land of Enchantm
ent


From: Charles Peck
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 5:33 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Tamiya putty thinner
 
Hi,
I'd like to know if there is a best or at least good thinner for Tamiya putty, basic type.
I'm experimenting with abusing a gondola and need to spread it thin with feathered edges.
Yes, a steam era gon in scrap service with dents and bulged out sides.
Chuck Peck


Re: Tamiya putty thinner

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi Chuck,
 
I do this using Scalecoat Washaway paint remover as the thinner for the putty. I put some putty on a flat work surface, add a drop or two of Washaway, and use a small spatula to mix everything into a paste that is maybe a little less viscose than peanut putter
 
Good luck on your project!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
 

From: Charles Peck
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 5:33 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Tamiya putty thinner
 
Hi,
I'd like to know if there is a best or at least good thinner for Tamiya putty, basic type.
I'm experimenting with abusing a gondola and need to spread it thin with feathered edges.
Yes, a steam era gon in scrap service with dents and bulged out sides.
Chuck Peck


Re: Tamiya putty thinner

Scott
 

May want to search YouTube.  Tamiya putty is really popular with armored modelers so I would guess they is a tutorial for it some place.  My guess is you sand it out to thin the edges.

Scott McDonald 


Re: Wabash 10 panel steel gondola

mopacfirst
 

This is the prototype for the Sunshine model, 67.2.  The prototype data sheet has one rather oblique photo, of a car with Andrews trucks.  Nice little car.

Ron Merrick


Re: Wabash 10 panel steel gondola

Rob Adams
 

Andy;

    Based on data in Wabash equipment inventory documents and a stenciling diagram, cars 13500-13749 were built during mid to late 1944, and 13750-14849 were added during 1945-46.  All were apparently built at the Wabash Shops in Decatur, IL.  These cars inherited trucks from retired cars and so some had Andrews trucks and some had AAR/Bettendorf type.

    I have an excellent side view of WAB 13963 taken in March, 1957 at San Diego, CA from Bob's Photo collection.  This car has Andrews trucks.   Drop me a line if you would like a scan to aid your modeling efforts.

Kind regards,

Rob Adams



On 4/19/20 9:48 PM, Andy Carlson wrote:
I have but a single picture of a large class (over 1300 in 1953) of 40' steel gondolas rostered by the Wabash RR.

The picture credits list this scene at a 1954 PRR wreck.

I am hoping that someone on this list can inform me as to what year were these solid floor gondolas were built.

As always,
Thanks in advance.
-Andy Carlson    Ojai CA

-- 
John Robert Adams
Wellman, Iowa


Wabash 10 panel steel gondola

Andy Carlson
 

Thanks, Gary. The more knowledgeable we become the more we discover the need for even more knowledge. This is what makes being a prototype modeler so exciting.
-Andy Carlson     Ojai CA

On Monday, April 20, 2020, 2:26:30 PM PDT, Gary Roe <wabashrr@...> wrote:


Andy,

It looks like they were built over a 3 year period....1944-1946.

gary roe
quincy, illinois





Re: Photo: CIM Boxcar 8183

Bill Welch
 

Sunshine and Life-Like Proto 2000 both did these Mather boxcars. Lots of photos of these around. They were yellow.

Bill Welch


Tamiya putty thinner

Charles Peck
 

Hi, 
I'd like to know if there is a best or at least good thinner for Tamiya putty, basic type.
I'm experimenting with abusing a gondola and need to spread it thin with feathered edges.
Yes, a steam era gon in scrap service with dents and bulged out sides.
Chuck Peck


Re: Wabash 10 panel steel gondola

Gary Roe
 

Andy,

It looks like they were built over a 3 year period....1944-1946.

gary roe
quincy, illinois



On Sunday, April 19, 2020, 9:48:39 PM CDT, Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:


I have but a single picture of a large class (over 1300 in 1953) of 40' steel gondolas rostered by the Wabash RR.

The picture credits list this scene at a 1954 PRR wreck.

I am hoping that someone on this list can inform me as to what year were these solid floor gondolas were built.

As always,
Thanks in advance.
-Andy Carlson    Ojai CA


Re: Photo: CIM Boxcar 8183

 

Didn't mainline Models do this car , back in the 60s? My Dad built one.

Dave Strahlendorf


Re: U.S. Navy San Diego Boxcar

Dennis Storzek
 

On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 06:45 AM, Guy Wilber wrote:
Note that his car is not equipped with an "AB" Brake system though it does have a train air line and a handbrake.   
 
It appears to have a full compliment of lever guides... I'd hazard a guess they wanted KC brake equipment, for reduced parts inventory for these captive cars, and decided to equip them in-house, using brake equipment salvaged from decommissioned cars.

Dennis Storzek

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