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PFE R30/40-50-18;19;21 reefers
Andy Carlson
Hello- So long ago.....I had placed my order for Dick Harley's tooling produced PFE reefers in the R-30-18 class. Tooling was built years ago by Terry Wegmann. The cars are built and marketed by Intermountain RR Co. I looked and can't quickly find requests for cars from me. Anyone on this list remember ordering these cars from me? I may cancel my order if no one remembers. These cars are to be shipped to dealers this month. Thanks, -Andy Carlson Ojai CA
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Re: GCSX Flat Car [was Barriger Library AC&F Photos]
Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
Hold on Schuyler! I did not say granite on Rutland flat cars. The proper load is MARBLE! The west side of the Green Mountains in Vermont , in other words Rutland territory, is primarily dolomitic rock or slate further west along the New York border and Lake Champlain. In the main stem of the Green Mountains and on their eastern slopes is where the granite is found along with copper, though the latter is no longer mined. For Vermont granite loading I'm going to suggest either Barre & Chelsea flat cars of the #700 to #749 group, the decks of which were 42 ft., 1 in in length and 9 ft. 2 in. wide, or you could use Boston & Main flat cars from the #33501 to #33796 group that with decks of the same dimensions. Hard to believe but by the time the Connecticut & Passumpsic Rivers RR was completed from White River Jct. to Newport, VT, together with is subsidiary the Massawippi Valley Railroad from Newport to Lennoxville, PQ with trackage rights into Sherbrooke, PQ, by the early 1870's copper was being mined at three points between White River and Lennoxville with all of this trackage becoming Boston & Maine territory by the 1890's. These were Pompanoosic, and Ely in Vermont and Capleton, PQ with ample evidence of it's loading still present at the 1st and 3rd location. they having lasted the longest. That said I believe the concentrated ore that was shipped from all three points was always bagged and shipped in box cars as I have been told it was from Pompanoosic where it was still being loaded and shipped in bags until the Elizabeth Mine closed in 1958. So there's and interesting commodity from this region shipped by rain but nit in a way that makes it such and interesting load as marble or granite chained on a flat car.
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Re: Photo: PRR Boxcar
Tony Thompson
Bob Chaparro wrote:
As is very often true, museums and archives really have no idea what they are talking about (the caption may well have been written by an intern or volunteer). It's obviously a USRA box car and no doubt the many PRR-kknowledgeable folks on this list will have a LOT to say <g>. Tony Thompson
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Re: Photo: PRR Boxcar
Who writes these captions? Also, I find it odd that the Illinois Library system is reposting a photo that is on the steam era freight cars website. Looking back at the original post I don’t see Illinois having any claim to the photo ???
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Brian J. Carlson
On Apr 22, 2020, at 2:37 PM, Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:
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Re: Photo: PRR Boxcar
And as far as I know, absolutely nothing to do with any sort of troop car.
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Regards Bruce
Bruce F. Smith Auburn, AL "Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."
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Re: Help with Assorted Freight Car Truck Colors
Post war SP freight car trucks may have been painted/repainted SP "Metallic" BCR fresh out of the car shop but within 3 months or less they appeared to be a dusty dark grey streaked with rust.
I have found Tamiya XF-84 Dark Iron to be a good general base paint for truck color. Blagdon Weathering Powder rust color brushed on after the paint is dry gives a reddish tone that may have been the remains of the paint or true rust. -- Ken Adams In splendid Shelter In Place solitude About half way up Walnut Creek
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Interior Photo: Pullman-Standard Compartmentizer Boxcar
Interior Photo: Pullman-Standard Compartmentizer Boxcar A 1953 builder's photo from the Illinois Digital Archives: http://www.idaillinois.org/cdm/compoundobject/collection/pshs/id/21210/rec/195 A very clear photo. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Photo: PRR Boxcar
Dave Parker
And, not exactly a new find since there is a link below to the very same photo over on the old steamerafreightcars.com site. Dave Parker Swall Meadows, CA
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Re: Photo: PRR Boxcar
Benjamin Hom
Bob Chaparro wrote: "Photo: PRR Boxcar A photo for the Illinois Digital Archives: http://www.idaillinois.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16614coll41/id/23/rec/363 Description: "Photo of an XM type boxcar, an American Railroad Administration model that was used as the basis for the second type of Pullman troop transport." I'm guessing the car number is 15466 but I'll let you folks with better monitors decipher the number." PRR 45466, Class X26, from PRR 44001-46725. Total of 9900 cars spread across multiple series due to initial assignment to Lines East, Lines West, and subsidiaries. This car exhibits mid-1930s upgrades, including upgraded roof, doors, and truss reinforcements. Ben Hom
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Re: Photo: PRR Boxcar
Eric Hansmann
Well, they got two letters correct in the description. This is one of the USRA boxcars assigned to the Pennsy. The car number if 45466 falls in with 2650 cars built by AC&F.
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Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
On Apr 22, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:
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Photo: PRR Boxcar
Photo: PRR Boxcar A photo for the Illinois Digital Archives: http://www.idaillinois.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16614coll41/id/23/rec/363 Description: "Photo of an XM type boxcar, an American Railroad Administration model that was used as the basis for the second type of Pullman troop transport." I'm guessing the car number is 15466 but I'll let you folks with better monitors decipher the number. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: GCSX Flat Car [was Barriger Library AC&F Photos]
Dennis Storzek
On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 10:22 AM, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford wrote:
I noted that the examples above do not have AAR standard reporting marks, indicating that they were strictly for on-base use.Interesting that they are all equipped with slotted knuckles. Dennis Storzek
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Re: Help with decals
I had to use some old Champ decals recently which required Solvset full strength.
Of course I am averse to air brushing anything so the pre-decal gloss coat was brushed on Future (now marketed as Pledge "revive it" floor gloss.) It works for me...... -- Ken Adams In Mandated Solitude About half way up Walnut Creek
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Re: Walthers 40' gon
John Larkin
If still available (great price) I'll cut you a check or if it's close just send cash. John Larkin
On Wednesday, April 22, 2020, 12:06:06 PM CDT, Hugh Guillaume via groups.io <mguill1224@...> wrote:
That is the kit that I have. I have chosen not to build it. I will send it to anyone who will cover the cost of priority mail. HTG
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Re: Rebuilt Double sheathed boxcars using Youngstown Steel wi
James Brewer
Eric,
It did come through to me; I have downloaded and been looking through it. Quite a bit of work on your part. Thank you! Jim Brewer
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Re: Help with decals
Jim King
Noted modeller, Bob Harpe, told me years ago that he uses 2 strengths of Solvaset. 1 is a mix of 40% Solvaset, 40% distilled water and 20% isopropyl alcohol. I don’t use distilled water because our city water has never given me issues with fogging, etc. I know some areas have “dirty” water and distilled, bottled water is the best option.
The other is full-strength Solvaset. I have a bottle of each and use the greatly thinned brew when first applying decals. Its dilution gives me enough time to move into position with a toothpick or broken-tipped #11 blade. Once the decal dries, I switch to full-strength Solvaset to finish it.
If the painted surface has sufficient gloss and I put enough thinned Solvaset on that spot, even with rivets, it usually takes just a couple applications of full-strength to get everything to nestle well. I have Microsol bottles but rarely use them once I got used to the 2-step Solvaset process.
Jim King http://smokymountainmodelworks.com/
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Re: GCSX Flat Car [was Barriger Library AC&F Photos]
Schuyler Larrabee
Thanks for your research and response, Ed. You’re a valuable resource!
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ed Hawkins
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 12:29 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] GCSX Flat Car [was Barriger Library AC&F Photos]
Schuyler, The ACF drawing collection at the National Museum of Transportation has 4 drawings that pertain to lot 2551. All are dated in the range July-October 1942.
31-3812 Lettering Diagram (also applies to lot 2558 GSCX ash transfer cars) 41-3419 Steel Details (also applies to lots 2544, 2552) 61-3594 General Arrangement (also applies to lots 2520, 2552) 61-3595 Brake Arrangement
The Barriger Flickr web site also has photos for related lots 2544 (U.S. Navy), 2552 (U.S. Coast Guard), and 2520 Nicaro Nickel Co. (Defense Plant order).
If interested in obtaining copies/digital scans of any drawings, contact Teresa Militello, curator of the NMOT library at tma.teresa2@.... Keep in mind that at this time the NMOT is closed due to coronavirus restrictions.
Regards, Ed Hawkins
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Re: Rebuilt Double sheathed boxcars using Youngstown Steel wi
Well, I see that the attached file on yesterday's post is not available in our current arrangement.
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Re: GCSX Flat Car [was Barriger Library AC&F Photos]
Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Don and friends, Coast Guard Yard: https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/49618643298/in/album-72157649155982802/ and end view at https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/49619163361/in/album-72157649155982802/ (note the interesting coupler cut rod arrangement!) I also found NSD Seattle: https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/49588956673/in/album-72157649155982802/ NSD San Diego: https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/49589573661/in/album-72157649155982802/ and end view at https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/49589501691/in/album-72157649155982802/ Navy Yard Philadelphia: https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/49619445197/in/album-72157649155982802/ One wonders how many of these 11-pocket flats were built for the government. Perhaps this was a standard military design, and the GCSX car sort of "leaked out". I noted that the examples above do not have AAR standard reporting marks, indicating that they were strictly for on-base use. As restricted cars and in small lots, they aren't of much use to us, but still interesting. Yours Aye, Garth Groff 🦆
On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 9:54 AM Donald B. Valentine via groups.io <riverman_vt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Bridge Girder On Flat Cars
Kemal Mumcu
You make an interesting observation Bruce. Looking through other photos of these cars I see some have the plate and others don't. It seems that the lower numbered cars have the plate and the higher numbers don't. Another reason to build one of each. ;)
The CP ran many many revenue earning cars into the 1950s on arch bar trucks. The company spanned sea to sea and most trips wouldn't need to ever leave home rails. Colin
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